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Can Liberals Publish Conservative Books?
RichardPoe.com ^ | June 3, 2003 | Richard Poe

Posted on 06/03/2003 5:11:08 PM PDT by Richard Poe

A MOMENT OF SILENCE, please. My publisher no longer exists.

As of Sunday, June 1, 2003, the entity once known as Prima Publishing of Roseville, California was demolished. Some parts were dismembered, others dissolved, still others renamed and relocated. To whatever extent Prima still existed last week, as a discreet and recognizable entity, it no longer does.

"So what?" some readers may ask. Most have probably never heard of the company, nor of its founder Ben Dominitz.

Yet, Prima produced many bestsellers, not a few of which I wrote. More importantly, Prima was one of a handful of publishing houses in America launched and run by a politically conservative entrepreneur. Prima’s rise and fall offers lessons to everyone who cares about the printed page. Its story casts light on one of the most vexing riddles facing American letters today: Can liberals publish conservative books?

Conservative Fever

Champagne glasses are clinking in Manhattan boardrooms today. Accountants are rubbing their hands with glee. A new day has dawned in New York publishing. A taboo has been lifted. Liberal publishers can now make money selling conservative books.

With tiny rightwing houses such as Regnery and WND Books cranking out mega-hits month after month – it was only a matter of time before major New York houses swallowed their pride, held their noses and did the unthinkable; tried to publish some conservative books of their own.

"The success of Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, and other conservative authors has led many publishers to turn more to the right…" notes the Associated Press. New York publishing giants Random House and Penguin have taken the lead, launching new imprints that will specialize in publishing conservative titles.

The Coulter Factor

Bestselling author Ann Coulter helped spark the new movement. It began with her harrowing ordeal trying to publish Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right.

Leftist editors tried to strangle Slander in its cradle. When Coulter’s editor died of cancer, HarperCollins deep-sixed the book. Coulter’s agent shopped it around for two months, getting rejection after rejection.

"This book does not move the national dialogue forward," sniffed one Doubleday editor.

"That’s funny," Coulter responded. "I thought book publishers made money on the basis of how many books they sold."

Crown Publishing – a division of Random House – finally picked it up. With over 400,000 copies sold, Slander spent 20 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list in 2002 – eight weeks straight in the number one position.

"The American people like me; editors don’t…" Coulter remarked to The New York Observer in August 2002. "If I were Rupert Murdoch, I think I’d fire some of the people at HarperCollins for turning down the No. 1 best-selling book of the summer for purely ideological reasons."

Liberal Slant

I don’t know whether Murdoch ever took Coulter’s advice and fired those HarperCollins editors. However, one publishing executive did give ear to Miss Coulter. He was Steve Ross, head of Random House’s Crown Publishing Group – the man who rescued Slander from oblivion.

Coulter argued in Slander that New York publishing houses were turning down millions of dollars in conservative book sales. Ross was forced to agree. In an April 26 interview with the Los Angeles Times, Ross said:

"Ann and I began talking while I was working with her on 'Slander,' which posits the existence of a liberal slant so organic to so many of our American institutions that we don't even recognize it as such. In working with her and thinking about the meticulous way she made her case, I came to recognize that what she was saying is fundamentally true with regard to book publishing.

"Most, if not all, of my peers are very liberal. I have come to believe that most trade publishers see it as their job to publish books for people of similar inclination. The result is an enormous disparity between the number of liberal and conservative books published. Most mainstream houses don't publish any conservative titles at all."

Ross himself is a liberal. But this month, he will launch Crown Forum, an imprint dedicated exclusively to publishing conservative authors. It will kick off with Ann Coulter’s latest offering, Treason: Liberal Treachery From the Cold War to the War on Terrorism. Conservative pundits Robert Novak and Michael Medved have reportedly signed on to write Crown Forum books.

"We publishers inhabit a very culturally sheltered island called Manhattan," Ross told the LA Times. "But until we declare ourselves a sovereign state, I think we should publish for the whole country. It's our job, in other words, to publish what people want to read."

The Impossible Dream

An old adage holds that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Perhaps the conservative fever now sweeping Manhattan is just a mirage.

On the surface, though, it looks tempting. No longer will rightwing scribes journey to provincial outposts in Dallas, San Francisco and Washington, D.C., to beg $5,000 advances from threadbare houses such as Spence Publishing; Encounter Books and Regnery Publishing.

Now we will huddle with literary agents in the King Cole Bar and other swank Manhattan venues, sipping martinis, dodging paparazzi, dropping witty bons mots to gossip columnists via cellphone, and plotting how to squeeze six-figure advances from acquisition editors. At least, so we imagine.

But will it work? Can liberal publishers really bring themselves to nurture conservative talent? Can they resist the temptation to censor, castrate, water down and otherwise abuse conservative authors?

That remains to be seen.

Remember The Free Press

Before yielding too readily to the wooing of our liberal benefactors, careful authors might wish to ponder the fate of The Free Press.

In the early ‘90s, little Regnery had not yet made its name with such Clinton-bashing blockbusters as Gary Aldrich’s Unlimited Access (1996) or Ann Coulter’s High Crimes and Misdemeanors (1998). Serious conservative writers in those days had only one place to go; The Free Press, then a division of Macmillan.

Its publisher Erwin A. Glikes (pronounced GLICK-ess) was a Belgian-born Jew who had fled Hitler with his parents. He turned against the Left after witnessing the violent protests at Columbia University during the ‘60s.

A Broken Heart

"Glikes was a powerful voice," says Prima founder Ben Dominitz. "He was trenchant and tough, a real mensch, a tough person who stood for what he believed in."

Glikes had to be tough to protect his fiefdom from corporate meddling. He provided a haven for conservative authors ranging from George Will and Robert Bork to Francis Fukuyama, Dinesh D’Souza and David Horowitz.

But Glikes died in 1994 – some say of a broken heart.

Simon & Schuster bought The Free Press that year. Glikes did not gel with the new regime. He left for another job but succumbed to a heart attack, quite suddenly, at age 56. Regarding Glikes’ unhappy departure and sudden death, David Horowitz comments, "Probably they were related."

The Free Press turned liberal soon after. Conservative publishing died in New York.

Maverick Entrepreneur

And so the question remains: can liberals publish conservative books? That depends. It worked for The Free Press as long as Erwin Glikes stood in the breach, fighting off interference from the corporate suits. When Glikes left, the suits moved in for the kill.

"The person running the imprint must have complete freedom," says Ben Dominitz. "I think it can be done only when it is under people with a conservative ideology."

Dominitz should know. He is one of the maverick entrepreneurs who built conservative publishing from the ground floor. Unlike the liberals who haunt Manhattan high rises, Dominitz journeyed deep into America’s heartland and drank of her soul. From his American odyssey, a great idea and a great company arose.

Dominitz came to New York from Israel, with his family, at age 13, unable to speak English. He studied violin at the prestigious Juilliard School. But Dominitz realized early that music would not pay the bills. He would need wealth to enjoy artistic freedom.

The Amway Connection

At age 23, Dominitz became an independent sales representative for Amway Corporation. Like all so-called network marketing firms, Amway allows sales reps to recruit other sales reps and to earn commissions from the sales of their recruits. Dominitz built a large "downline" or sales organization with Amway, generating a residual income that continues paying out to this day, years after Dominitz’s "retirement" from the Amway business.

The money was good, but more important to Dominitz was the culture of patriotism, family values and self-improvement that Amway fostered in its sales force. At pep rallies festooned with red, white and blue, young Dominitz heard lectures from Amway’s billionaire co-founders Jay Van Andel and Rich DeVos, extolling America’s free enterprise system.

"I loved the American idea of self-improvement," says Dominitz, who immersed himself in self-help tomes such as Napoleon Hill’s Think and Grow Rich.

Through Amway, Dominitz came to know and love the American heartland. He sold Amway wherever he went. "I remember in Bloomington, Indiana, explaining the marketing plan in people’s trailers, who worked at the TV appliance factory," he says. "They were wonderful people, trusting and open. I came to love them. Some of the best people in America come from the mid-West. I married a mid-Western girl."

Meeting of the Minds

Ben and Nancy Dominitz founded Prima Publishing in 1984 with a $20,000 loan. The company grew quickly. By 2000, annual sales were $100 million and the company published 300 new titles that year.

Prima made its millions from cook books, how-to books and strategy guides for video and computer games. But Dominitz harbored a deep interest in conservative and libertarian politics – a market he believed the mainstream book industry neglected.

The decline and fall of The Free Press opened a gaping hole in the market that Dominitz yearned to fill. That same year, 1994, a young man named Steve Martin started work as a production editor at Prima. Martin soon rose to managing editor. Like Dominitz, he was conservative. "Ben quickly realized that I had an ideological side," Martin recalls. "He wanted to create a Free Press-like imprint."

The two men started talking. "Steve Martin was a brilliant gentleman who shared my political views," recalls Dominitz. "We began to talk about it, to shape it." Out of their conversations grew Prima Forum – a conservative imprint launched in 1996.

"An Exciting Time"

"Ben created an atmosphere where you could do almost anything you felt you were capable of doing," says Martin, who served as Prima Forum’s publisher from 1996 to 2001. "He enabled me to do things that I never thought I could do, publishing books that really stirred things up."

Prima Forum published heavyweights such as William F. Buckley, Jr., David Horowitz, Peter Collier and Paul Craig Roberts, but also promoted new talent. Among the rising stars Forum introduced were Patrick Glynn (God the Evidence); Thomas J. DiLorenzo (The Real Lincoln); and Tammy Bruce (The New Thought Police and The Death of Right and Wrong).

When independent counsel Kenneth Starr posted his findings online in 1998, Prima Forum hit the bookstores with a bound edition of The Starr Report days before any competitors. "We downloaded it on a Friday afternoon. We sent it to the printer that night, and bound books were coming out Monday," recalls Martin. "It hit number one on the New York Times bestseller list the next week. We had The New York Times calling. A local station sent a film crew out. That was a very exciting time."

The Liberals Cometh

The excitement soon came to an end, however.

Dominitz was now competing with the big boys. His Prima Games division had taken about 50 percent of the U.S. market for computer and video game strategy guides. That was too much for Big Media to ignore. They offered Dominitz a deal he couldn’t refuse. Random House – a division of the German media giant Bertelsmann – acquired Prima in April 2001.

I will never forget receiving a call from Steve Martin in May 2001, telling me that he was leaving the company. Steve had taken a job at an academic publishing firm, where he is now managing editor. "What will happen to Prima Forum?" I asked. "Will Random House publish conservative books?"

I had just written a book called The Seven Myths of Gun Control. Among other things, Seven Myths exposed the anti-gun movement as part of a larger ideological war against men and masculinity, a movement dominated by far-left feminists for whom gun control symbolized the fulfillment of repressed castration fantasies.

Steve assured me that Seven Myths was safely in the production pipeline. It would definitely be published. However, Random House executives had told Steve that they had no interest in conservative publishing. Steve saw little hope that Prima Forum would survive.

A Close Call

Ben Dominitz recalls sitting in a meeting around that time with a high-placed Random House executive and beseeching him to keep Prima Forum alive. "This is the most exciting part of Prima," Dominitz told the man. As an example, Dominitz mentioned an upcoming title, The Real Lincoln by Thomas diLorenzo.

"He was very uncomfortable," Dominitz recalls. "And he said, `You know, this book is not going to sell more than 5,000 copies and the fact is I’m extremely liberal and very much against ideas like this. Why would I want to publish it?’ The book went on to sell 50 or 60,000 copies."

Publishers Weekly reports that Prima Forum might have died, had it not been for the sudden success of a single book. When it was first released in 1999, Yossef Bodansky’s Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America sold only 10,000 copies in hardcover. Then came the 9-11 attacks. All of a sudden, the whole country was scouring bookstores for information on Osama bin Laden.

Prima Forum produced a paperback version of Bodansky’s book in one week. It sold nearly 270,000 copies and spent five weeks on the New York Times bestseller list. "The decision [to publish Bin Laden in paperback] was made for us," says Alice Feinstein – who headed Prima during the transition to Random House management. Feinstein told Publishers Weekly in November 2001 that she was going to take a "serious look at growing Forum."

Prima Forum was saved – by the skin of its teeth.

The Free Market

In hindsight, the worries of those days seem overblown. Seven Myths was published without a hitch. It sold well in hardcover, and the paperback is scheduled for release on August 26, 2003.

More importantly, thanks to Ann Coulter and Steve Ross, Prima Forum lives on, under the new name of Crown Forum.

As for Ben Dominitz, he has retired a rich man at age 53. Those who know him cannot imagine that Dominitz will wait long before tackling some new entrepreneurial challenge. Yet, for now, he busies himself with philanthropy, playing his violin and enjoying the quiet satisfaction of knowing that his dream of a conservative imprint will live on in Crown Forum.

"It’s the triumph of the marketplace ," says Dominitz. "The dollar speaks. That’s the beauty of capitalism."

Steve Martin concurs. "Steve Ross’s job is not to be a liberal, but to make money for Crown," he says. "This is what conservatives always wanted to have happen, for the marketplace to take over."

Farewell, Prima

On February 25, 2003, the Crown Publishing Group announced that it was shutting down Prima Lifestyle and laying off 20 employees. The Prima Games division would continue under the Random House Information Group. Forum would be moved to New York. With these changes, scheduled for June 1, the company that Ben Dominitz created would no longer exist, except in scattered pieces.

Dominitz sheds no tears for the breakup of Prima. "Once we sold the company, it was no longer the same Prima. It was a different company, a part of Random House, for better or worse. If I mourned it, I mourned it awhile ago."

Dominitz is right. Prima has not been Prima for a very long time. A company is not a building, nor a certificate of incorporation, nor a line of products, nor even a team of people. It is an idea in the mind of its founder. When that idea flickers out, so does the company.

Whither Conservative Books?

What of the future?

Crown Forum and other liberal-owned conservative imprints can succeed if they learn the lesson of The Free Press. They must hire people like Erwin Glikes – strong leaders, of conservative views, who will protect their writers and stand their ground against corporate meddling.

Should they opt instead for the more typical route of hiring talented but inexperienced young people to run these imprints – kids whom they can easily manipulate and order about – I fear they will fail. With no Erwin Glikes to stop them, the suits will do what suits do best. They will meddle, micromanage, second-guess and kill the best projects and best ideas. They will drive off talent and run the imprint into the ground.

As for the existing conservative houses – Regnery; Spence; Encounter Books; WND Books, NewsMax.com and the rest – if they wish to survive, says Steve Martin, they must outmaneuver the New York houses, much as the nimble British warships outmaneuvered the lumbering galleons of the Spanish Armada.

"Crown can pay the Ann Coulters of this world a lot of money," says Martin. "The small houses can never compete on advances. They have to be smarter than Crown. They have to do what we did at Prima Forum – find new talent. Who’s out there writing? Who’s writing interesting things on the Internet? You have to keep your fingertips on the pulse of the marketplace."

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Richard Poe is a New York Times bestselling author and cyberjournalist. His book The Seven Myths of Gun Control is due out in paperback in August 2003. Poe’s forthcoming book, The New Underground: How Conservatives Conquered the Internet will be available soon.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
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1 posted on 06/03/2003 5:11:08 PM PDT by Richard Poe
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To: BartMan1
Check this out...
2 posted on 06/03/2003 5:23:29 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: Richard Poe
Not only do the small houses have to find new talent and be creative in keeping established authors, they have to find a way to pass on their legacy if and when they decide to sell-out. If the persons involved are truly committed to conservative and libertarian ideals, something has to come before the Almighty Dollar. When the day comes when the big houses come knocking on the door to buy these printers out, some assurance needs to be made that the tradition of the company will continue.
3 posted on 06/03/2003 5:32:37 PM PDT by D. Brian Carter
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To: Richard Poe
New talent will be difficult to find. On the whole, I'm not impressed with the quality of conservative writing.
4 posted on 06/03/2003 5:53:45 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
I'm not impressed with the quality of conservative writing.

What conservative writers impress you? And which ones do not?

5 posted on 06/03/2003 6:03:39 PM PDT by Richard Poe
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To: RLK
I'm not impressed with the quality of conservative writing.

Reagan's speechwriters did okay; W's speechwriters seem to be doing fine, too. ;)

I remember reading what had been promoted as a "Christian novel" in the '70s. That book was awful. Christian publishing has since taken off. Now I wonder if that novel (the title of which I've since thankfully forgotten) was a homogenized version of a liberal editor's view of religion.
6 posted on 06/03/2003 6:13:17 PM PDT by Fawnn (I think therefore I'm halfway there....)
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To: Richard Poe
But will it work? Can liberal publishers really bring themselves to nurture conservative talent? Can they resist the temptation to censor, castrate, water down and otherwise abuse conservative authors?

It's hard to believe that it will actually work over the long haul.

7 posted on 06/03/2003 6:17:25 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Richard Poe
Even if the type gets set, and the printing presses start rolling, and a number of books do get bound, the publisher orientated against conservative thought (assuming any kernel of conservative philosophy was not edited out of the manuscript to begin with), not much effort will be put into merchandising the product. Distribution will be almost directly to the discount tables and bargain bins.

The degree of respect would be something Rodney Dangerfield would spurn.
8 posted on 06/03/2003 6:43:16 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Richard Poe
One of the best is columnist Charles Krauthammer. When Rush Limbaugh said Krauthammer was one of the smartist men in the country, I had to agree with him. The old Commentary magazine was outstanding, although it required an IQ of 145 minimum to read it. The mag was divided into a general and a second Jewish culture section. I have no interest in Jewish culture. The general section was the part I read. It was one of Reagan's favorires. Midge Dector was writing tough conservative books before others had the guts and brains to do it. Her Liberal Parents, Radical Children was written at a time when saying such things would get somebody crucified. Commentary's Susan Garment was brilliant, although I don't know whether she has written any books. Reagan's War gave insights into Reagan when he was a young man. It was worth the read. Olson's The Final Days left me flat. I bought it to support the cause, but it lacks substance and ideas that would last over time. For those who wanted to cheer hatred of Hillary, it was a hoot. However, it was somewhat predictable and repetitious. My disgust with either of the Clintons is widely known. Norman Podhoret's analysis of Viet Nam was a little to hastily written, but a groundbreaking effort.

Some of the best conservative books are written by extreme leftists. Robert McNamara's In Retrospect establish him as a leftist blowhard subversive more who sabotaged the Viet Nam war more authoritatively than any conservative writer could have done.

9 posted on 06/03/2003 6:43:38 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Fawnn
Reagan's speechwriters did okay; W's speechwriters seem to be doing fine, too. ;)

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Reagan wrote many of os best speechs. I knew the woman at the White House who typed them up using the special shorthand he liked.

10 posted on 06/03/2003 6:47:22 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
And don't forget Tom Sowell. His Ethnic America was brillian and well documented. There's a lot of meat in his writing.
11 posted on 06/03/2003 6:51:30 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Richard Poe
bump
12 posted on 06/03/2003 7:18:06 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Richard Poe
A wonderful analysis of the challenges conservatives have faced with mainstream publishers... IMHO this is a large piece of the puzzle which helped liberals gain such a stranglehold on our society.

BTW, I just went to Amazon.com to purchase your book "The New Underground: How Conservatives Conquered the Internet". I've been waiting for it to show in stores and just tonight decided to pre-order it so I would have it immediately upon becoming available. To say I'm greatly looking forward to reading it would be like saying the sun is just a little warm ;-) Just as an FYI to you, Amazon won't let me pre-order the book, however... I'll try again another day but thought you might wish to know that if you weren't aware of the situation.
13 posted on 06/03/2003 9:07:48 PM PDT by Tamzee ( It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. - J. Swift)
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To: Richard Poe
Great article Richard. I see you still drop in at FrontPage Magazine once in awhile. That is where I first read your works. Aloha from a rare breed: an American Indian Conservative.
14 posted on 06/03/2003 9:35:24 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: alloysteel
not much effort will be put into merchandising the product.

In what respect does that differ from what goes on now? I don't recall ever seeing advertising for any conservative books.

15 posted on 06/03/2003 11:45:18 PM PDT by exDemMom (More tax cuts for the rich (i.e. working people) NOW!)
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To: firebrand
FYI
16 posted on 06/03/2003 11:47:04 PM PDT by nutmeg (USA: Land of the Free - Thanks to the Brave)
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To: RLK; Richard Poe
Don't forget Ralph Peters, Robert Kaplan, Victor Davis Hanson, Mark Steyn, Richard Prager and the many others I am too tired to remember off the top of my head.
17 posted on 06/03/2003 11:57:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Richard Poe
Outstanding website Richard. I really appreciate your up-frontness in putting the large Free Republic link front and center. So many columnists, talk hosts etc obviously lurk here to mine the cutting edge ideas, and then pretend they don't know us in "polite company."

I am wondering about publishing conservative fiction? A quick example. Clancy (I am no fan of his writing, but a big fan of his success) simply could not get The Hunt For Red October published in New York, and eventually convinced the tiny Naval Institute Press to take a flyer with their first work of fiction.

Another route to try is that taken by John Ross, author of Unintended Consequences. He has sold about 60,000 massive hardbacks through Accurate Press, a tiny publisher of technical gun booklets.

I have written a second amendment novel set in the near future, "Enemies Foreign and Domestic," which I am self-publishing and selling only via the internet and gun magazine ads. I don't have the years to spend pleading my case with the anti-gun liberals on 5th Avenue.

Are any of the conservative publishing houses you have listed considering branching into conservative fiction? I wild note the success of the extremely badly written "Left Behind" series within the Christian conservative demographic. There is a market out there starving for good conservative fiction!

A very well written second amendment novel could also be a great success, harking back to Clancy, and his unpublishable (in New York) pro-military Hunt For Red October.

How many books have Chris Lehane (SP) and Tom Clancy sold?

18 posted on 06/04/2003 12:17:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Jeff Head
Publishing Ping.
19 posted on 06/04/2003 6:38:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: nutmeg
Thanks for the ping. I feel bad for Regnery, which published conservatives when nobody else would and now will get beaten out by the deep pockets. Crown Forum has already hired one of their editors away from them.
20 posted on 06/04/2003 7:23:27 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
More conservative publishers can only help. If Crown Forum tries to stifle the edge out of conservative works, they will only lose the best new writers to Regnery and the others again.
21 posted on 06/04/2003 7:29:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Richard Poe
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22 posted on 06/04/2003 11:08:21 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Richard Poe
Are you the answer to a prayer? I've written an historical fiction and have just about decided to go the Internet route because I'm getting nowhere with the usual suspects. I truly believe it is largely because publishing is SO dominated by libs, especially females, and I happen to be a male who has, by all accounts (except lib agents) written a great book.

I have two anecdotes that are actually different versions of the same situation. The agent says, "You write just like John Grisham (the other agent said Nicholas Sparks).

"That's great!" say I.

"No," says the agent. "I hate the way he writes."

AAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Just like Ann Coulter I'm thinking, "I thought your job was to get books published.

If anybody knows ANYBODY who give a good historical fiction a chance, please let me know.

Frustrated in NC.
23 posted on 06/04/2003 11:17:45 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Richard Poe
I want conservative books -- science fiction that isn't silly, political books based in facts not "feelings", fiction reflecting my tribe and movies with "Key Largo" type villains rather than evil incarnate glorified as "smart".

I want conservative restaurants where the music is for the patrons not the wait staff. I want conservative communities, homes, and furniture. Someone has figured out that we're a market. A large, rich, totally ignored market. This is the tip of the iceberg.

24 posted on 06/04/2003 11:26:00 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Richard Poe; All
I want conservative books -- science fiction that isn't silly, political books based in facts not "feelings", fiction reflecting my tribe and movies with "Key Largo" type villains rather than evil incarnate glorified as "smart".

I want conservative restaurants where the music is for the patrons not the wait staff. I want conservative communities, homes, and furniture. Someone has figured out that we're a market. A large, rich, totally ignored market. This is the tip of the iceberg.

25 posted on 06/04/2003 11:26:18 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
Hey, it was worth repeating. . .
26 posted on 06/04/2003 11:27:37 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: exDemMom
I hear some merchandising on during conservative talk radio shows. But, that is about it.
27 posted on 06/04/2003 11:30:56 AM PDT by brownie (Reductio Ad Absurdum, or something like that . . .)
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To: Lee'sGhost; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; Timesink; ...
This stuff is great.

:)


28 posted on 06/04/2003 11:51:41 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Lee'sGhost; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; Timesink; ...
This stuff is great.

:)


29 posted on 06/04/2003 11:51:44 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Lee'sGhost
I'm going the self-publishing and internet route initially.

I am not willing to crawl on my knees up and down 5th avenue, only to be sneered at by facially-pierced liberal elitists.

Remember, Tom Clancy could not get The Hunt For Red October published in New York, and he found another way.

I think he has sold a few books since then.

30 posted on 06/04/2003 12:24:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: GOPJ
I want conservative books -- science fiction that isn't silly, political books based in facts not "feelings", fiction reflecting my tribe....Someone has figured out that we're a market. A large, rich, totally ignored market. This is the tip of the iceberg.

See number 18.

31 posted on 06/04/2003 12:28:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Remember, Tom Clancy could not get The Hunt For Red October published in New York, and he found another way.

IIRC, Clancy approached the US Naval Institute Press first, never bothering to approach New York, and the USNI had a long internal debate about publishing fiction (which they had not done before).

32 posted on 06/04/2003 12:45:30 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Travis McGee
Are any of the conservative publishing houses you have listed considering branching into conservative fiction? I wild note the success of the extremely badly written "Left Behind" series within the Christian conservative demographic. There is a market out there starving for good conservative fiction!

There is a trick to writing good "conservative fiction."

It's to not worry so much about your message--you will get it out, because you'll write about what you believe to be true and good--as it is to worry about using good technique in your craft.

33 posted on 06/04/2003 12:49:13 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Travis McGee
Keep me posted, if you will. My novel would never make it via vanity press, but I'm not sure about e-publishing. I haven't come across anything that looked like a real publisher rather than a scam wanting a bunch of up front money.
34 posted on 06/04/2003 12:51:53 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Poohbah
Hey, check your tag message with mine.

You want to live forever?

35 posted on 06/04/2003 12:53:53 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Who wants to live forever/
When love must die?
36 posted on 06/04/2003 12:56:16 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
There is a huge difference between "vanity publishers" and "self publishing," and I am not talking at all about e-books.

If you don't have Dan Poynter's book "The Self Publisher's Manual" you should check it out.

The cost of self publishing a hundred thousand 500 page trade paperbacks is about $3 a book. The cost for only 1,000 is not that much more, about $5. Modern technology allows very efficient short runs. So as far as creating the hard copy work, you don't need a "publisher" any more, only a printer, and there are 100s. Their offset ink printing and binding work is indistinguishable from the largest "publishing houses" in NY.

So that leaves promotion and distribution. Promotion is more do-able today than ever because of the internet. Ditto distribution. Books by unknown authors sitting on shelves at B&N have a 90% chance of being returned, and then you are finished with few second chances.

Just some random thoughts, I have to run out the door, more later.

37 posted on 06/04/2003 2:27:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Richard Poe
night bump
38 posted on 06/04/2003 8:29:29 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Richard Poe
Great article. I look forward to seeing this run in the New York Times Review of Books .... NOT!

Seriously, it seems that there is a lot more than money-making involved in publishing. I have enough resources to start up a conservative publishing house. Should I try? It seems the big names keep destroying the conservative press and shutting it down. but that smells like business opportunity to me.

good luck with your new book.



39 posted on 06/04/2003 10:18:59 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq)
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To: RaceBannon
See reply 37
40 posted on 06/05/2003 9:40:43 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Lee'sGhost; Richard Poe; Travis McGee; Jeff Head
BUMP.

I think we need to have monthly threads on conservative publishing.

41 posted on 04/11/2004 11:25:33 PM PDT by GeronL (National 'Whip the Bunny' Holiday!!!)
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To: GeronL
Just curious; what made you leapfrog this post from a thread that's 10 months old?

I would be interested if it somehow forwarded our goal -- to be published.
42 posted on 04/12/2004 4:55:00 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: GeronL
I won't argue with you!
43 posted on 04/12/2004 7:05:46 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Lee'sGhost; Travis McGee
I was just searching for conservative fiction websites. Doesn't seem to be any, although there is some fiction at frugalsquirrels.com (Thanks for the link Travis)
44 posted on 04/12/2004 11:03:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Dr.Pepper Fiend)
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To: GeronL
Frugals is the only one I'm even aware of.
45 posted on 04/12/2004 11:17:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
It would seem crazy if there weren't more patriotic fiction out there somewhere on the web....
46 posted on 04/12/2004 11:24:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Dr.Pepper Fiend)
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To: GeronL
If there is, I don't know where it is.


47 posted on 04/12/2004 11:30:50 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
It'll drive me nuts if I think about it too much.
48 posted on 04/13/2004 12:00:57 AM PDT by GeronL (Dr.Pepper Fiend)
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