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If Bush Was Going To Lie, Why Would He Lie About WMD?
Toogoodreports.com ^ | Weekender June 08, | Lowell Phillips

Posted on 06/06/2003 9:19:23 AM PDT by F_Cohen

If Bush Was Going To Lie, Why Would He Lie About WMD?

By Lowell Phillips

Weekender June 08

Toogood Reports

Call it a failing of mine, but I have this problem with things that just don't make sense. And, sorry, the bubbling hysteria over pre-Iraq War intelligence is replete with things that just don't make sense. None of the inconsistencies, however, have any impact on those who are positively breathless to believe the worst about President Bush and the rest of the administration.

Pick up a newspaper, turn on a news broadcast, or listen to the callers on talk radio and there it is. But the screaming illogic of charging the White House with intentionally falsifying intelligence to justify an invasion is being drowned out by the hypnotic chant, "No Weapons. Bush Lied", "No Weapons. Bush Lied."

Sure it's maddening, but also fascinating that so many want something so desperately to be true. The political left is giddy at the prospect. Indeed, they have not been this hopeful since body bags were returning from Vietnam en masse.

Though the speed of the victory spoiled their groovy retro-60s protests, there is yet a chance at happiness. And if the cost is merely the paralysis of our intelligence agencies, the premature end to the war on terror, perpetual vulnerability for the American people, and the destruction of the most effective foreign policy president in a generation, so be it. Then again, national security and the international stature of the United States have never been priorities for the left.

Certainly it is possible that this inarticulate Texas dunce orchestrated a wicked scheme to trick the country and the world into war, but how might this be reconciled with the woefully limited intellectual capabilities that his opponents insist he has? Maybe that's just what he "wants us to think". And what would a good conspiracy theory be without an assumption like that?

There is also the possibility that poor President Bush was an unwitting pawn for those nefarious "neo-cons" that we have heard so much about? But if this were the case, he would not be a liar, now would he?

Whatever part Bush played, evil genius or dupe, some farfetched assumptions are necessary, which clear thinkers have pointed out. And even then there are a few significant, though unanswered questions.

To believe that the Bush administration intentionally deceived the country to facilitate war, we must believe that it was working in concert with the Clinton administration, which used much of the same intelligence to justify air strikes back in 1998. We have to believe that Clinton himself was deeply involved in the stratagem, due to his persistent warnings about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. The same can be said for leading Democrats in congress that helped make "regime change" in Iraq the official policy of the U.S. government during that time.

We must believe that countries like Germany, France and Russia, whose intelligence services supported American conclusions, were likewise in on it. Not to mention the United Nations, whose point man, Hans Blix, agreed up to the eve of war that Hussein's regime was not cooperating with inspections.

We have to accept that after going to so much trouble to obstruct and drive out weapons inspectors in 1998, that Saddam then unilaterally destroyed the weapons he admitted to having, and decided to keep it a secret, depriving his government of billions in oil revenue. And we must believe that this wily "survivor" decided to convince the world of his innocence and dissuade the coalition massed on his southern border by threatening to use weapons that he supposedly destroyed.

Maybe I'm nitpicking here, but if one is trying to prove that they haven't got a gun, I don't think they would yell, "Take one more step and I'll shoot!"

It is one hell of a leap to assume so much. But then there's that chant, "No Weapons. Bush Lied", "No Weapons. Bush Lied." It makes anything easy to swallow.

Ok, let's say that it was all Bush's doing, that it really was a "war for oil", or a Bush family vendetta. Why falsify intelligence about weapons of mass destruction?

It was inevitable that people would want to see the weapons. Are we to believe that the White House set up a situation where they were certain to be exposed? After going to all the trouble to manufacture intelligence, why not supply the weapons in a location convenient for the media's cameras?

No matter how concrete the WMD evidence appeared prior to the invasion, opponents complained that going after Saddam had nothing whatsoever to do with the war on terror. They argued that this was a "distraction". Democrat competitors for Bush's job have also charged him with diverting military assets away from the war to needlessly target Saddam.

Moreover, the WMD angle obligated the administration to seek the approval of the U.N., at least initially, and provided detractors the opportunity to cultivate a "give the inspectors more time" sentiment in the American public.

If Bush wanted war, and was prepared to "lie" to get it, why not cut out the U.N. middleman, and go with the sure thing with American voters?

However pleasing it was to have the support of the British and others for the Iraq invasion, we didn't need them.

For all but the most willful doubters, the support for terrorism by the Hussein regime was clear, but the evidence provided didn't make it appear massive.

Bush could have garnered overwhelming support from the public, left no room for Democrats and the rest of the anti-war movement to cry "distraction", and alleviate the need for U.N. approval from the outset by "exaggerating," "distorting", or simply lying about the terrorist presence in Iraq.

Or perhaps the administration decided on a conspiracy, with all the dangers involved, but still was considerate enough to be sporting and give the opposition a fighting chance to stop the war they so desperately wanted. Is that it?

I have no doubt that these questions will be shrugged off by the legions of Bush-haters as easily as all the others. But should they, if even for a moment, begin to see the absurdity of their accusations, they can resort to that comforting chant and convince themselves of the presidents's fiendishness, that appeasement works, and that liberal paradise awaits.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; wmd
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To: phaser
Because conservatives have never done anything underhanded like lying?

You're going to have to explain what that means and how it has anything to do with what I said or else we are all going to think that you are dumb, stupid, and naive. Now, you don't want us to think that, do you?

22 posted on 06/06/2003 9:47:39 AM PDT by Consort
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To: MizSterious
Bump for filing!...

Looks like an awful lot of evidence for something that doesn't exist.

23 posted on 06/06/2003 9:47:49 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: F_Cohen
We must believe that countries like Germany, France and Russia, whose intelligence services supported American conclusions, were likewise in on it.

And we must believe that this wily "survivor" decided to convince the world of his innocence and dissuade the coalition massed on his southern border by threatening to use weapons that he supposedly destroyed.

I don't recall either of those things. Anybody know what he's talking about?

24 posted on 06/06/2003 9:48:31 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: phaser
They did. The UN inspections, forced to a halt by Bush (and in 1998 by Clinton) were allowed to go about unfettered. They encountered a lockeddoor once, and the problem was immediately corrected when the superintendent of the building came over to unlock it.

That is complete fantasy. Even Scott bin Ritter said (at the time) that the Iraqis were holding back.

Perhaps you'd like to back up that assertion?

25 posted on 06/06/2003 9:48:53 AM PDT by TomB
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To: phaser
But this war was obviously based on lies. They presented figures and estimates as FACTS, and so far have proven not ONE of their points used to go war. That's known as an illegal act.

Here is a challenge. Lets assume that the intelligence is eventually proven right.

Would you then be willing to contribute $5.00 to Bush's presidential campaign ?

26 posted on 06/06/2003 9:48:53 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: phaser
obviously based on lies

I'd suggest, friend, that those "lies" were perpetrated by the entire international intelligence community, including the UN itself.

27 posted on 06/06/2003 9:49:25 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: VRWC_minion
When has a leftist ever admitted they were wrong?
28 posted on 06/06/2003 9:50:26 AM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: F_Cohen
I think it's simple really...He's waiting for Hillary to ask where they are publicly...notice she or Bill hasn't (which should speak volumes)...but of course to do so would be to deny with no credibility the entire reason for Bill's timed assault on Iraq to coincide with Monica-gate. And if and when she does, imagine how stupid she would look in either case...and this woman wants to be President...
29 posted on 06/06/2003 9:51:13 AM PDT by grumple
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To: phaser
This is beyond fence-sitting, this is setting up camps in both yards!

Not really. We knew had them, he admitted it! So the trick now is to find out what he did with them. While we were jerking off to the tune of the UN and all of the other liberal lunacy surrounding Iraq in 2003, Sadamm was hiding and giving the stuff away. Look for an anthrax attack in a Jewish Settlement, or a mustard attack in the NY subway, courtesy of Al-Qaeda through Saddam.

30 posted on 06/06/2003 9:52:14 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: My2Cents
I guess, according to the media and some Freepers, it's just more chopped liver...I expect it from the media, but I'm always a little surprised when Freepers buy it, hook line and sinker.
31 posted on 06/06/2003 9:52:24 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: xm177e2
The proof that W didn't lie was that he didn't direct the U.S. military (or the CIA?) to plant false evidence in Iraq? Some of the 'argumentation' offered to cover W's behind is getting so twisted and... psychedelic... one can't stop oneself from LOL...
32 posted on 06/06/2003 9:52:37 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: Registered
Bleeding heart liberals have been replaced with bleeding heart conservatives. Practical concerns about whether or not Iraq represented a real threat to the United States before the war are to be brushed off, the retort being an appeal to emotion. Sure, Saddam was/is an evil tyrant, but was/is he an evil tyrant that is a danger to us? If you want to prevent mass graves, then we should be joining French troops in the Congo right now.
33 posted on 06/06/2003 9:54:43 AM PDT by Egregious Philbin
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To: Egregious Philbin
But would congress okay the budget for all the white flags? I mean, if we're going to join the French...

;)

34 posted on 06/06/2003 9:58:24 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: Migraine
May I quote you. Excellent.
35 posted on 06/06/2003 10:00:23 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: TomB
The Iraqi government fought inspections tooth and nail. If they didn't have any WMDs, why didn't they just throw the doors open?

For the same reason that you don't let the cops come into your house any time that they want to toss it.

That having been said, I'm sure that there are WMD in Iraq. They're probably just buried in the desert somewhere...benign environment like that, they'll last for a long time. It's like looking for a specific needle in a stack of needles. I'm just glad that the adults are in charge now and we can be fairly sure that we'll get to the bottom of it.

36 posted on 06/06/2003 10:01:12 AM PDT by wbill
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To: F_Cohen
It is becoming increasingly clear that the democrats would do anything to win back power. They are ready to destroy this country to obtain absolute power over the sheeples. The democrats would rather rule a 3rd world and impoverished
USA than have the Republicans and Conservatives remain in power over a prosperous America and only hyper-power on earth.
37 posted on 06/06/2003 10:09:24 AM PDT by desertcry
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To: TheGeezer
"This may just be a nice GWB strategy. Or maybe God's...."

It's the strategery. ;)
38 posted on 06/06/2003 10:16:19 AM PDT by Search4Truth (When a man lies, he murders part of the world.)
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To: wbill
For the same reason that you don't let the cops come into your house any time that they want to toss it.

If the cops were outside my house with a search warrant and a sledgehammer, and made it clear they were coming in no matter what, I'd GLADLY open the door.....

....provided I had nothing to hide.

39 posted on 06/06/2003 10:28:54 AM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
Wow, it didn't take phaser long to get the boot. Must have been a "return engagement".

Too bad, I was enjoying his idiocy.

40 posted on 06/06/2003 10:30:18 AM PDT by TomB
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