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Science is changing the abortion debate
NH Sunday News ^ | 6/8/03 | Bernadette Malone

Posted on 06/08/2003 5:44:03 AM PDT by RJCogburn

AFTER Roe v. Wade, 30 years crept by before New Hampshire placed a single restriction on abortion. Last week, the Legislature passed a bill requiring, in most cases, that parents be notified before an underage daughter can have an abortion.

Once Gov. Craig Benson signs the bill as promised, New Hampshire will lose its dubious distinction of being the only state in the country with no restriction on a procedure that is becoming increasingly more difficult to justify as the years go by.

As more time passes since the U.S. Supreme Court decision forbidding states from outlawing abortion, the harder it becomes to defend abortion as either a privacy issue or a woman’s right.

With each passing year and subsequent study on pregnancy, science discredits those who contend that the content of a woman’s uterus is a mere clump of cells, an appendix of the mother, something with no potential for life without a nine-month commitment from a woman.

Babies born in the second trimester, when abortion is considered legally acceptable because the fetus supposedly isn’t viable, now routinely survive and thrive. Unwanted embryos created in laboratories truly look like clumps of cells, but are adopted and transplanted into women who have trouble conceiving.

Such examples of viability were unthinkable when Roe v. Wade was handed down. Science can change social thinking so much in three decades. This is not just a pro-life viewpoint. Even Newsweek notes in tomorrow’s edition the relationship between science and abortion politics.

Thirty years from now, a woman seeking to end her unwanted pregnancy might be told by her doctor that the 4-week-old life inside her could be removed and given to a good adoptive mother that very same day - with no more physical inconvenience than a first-trimester abortion, and with far less emotional duress than traditional 20th century adoption.

What will a woman say then? “I understand you can remove this fetus from me and give him or her to a good home, but it’s my right to have this fetus removed and then killed instead.” Surely women won’t be that black-hearted in 2033?

Even in 2003, it’s becoming embarrassing to demand abortion whenever, wherever and however.

In Washington last week, Democrats joined Republicans in Congress to pass a ban on partial-birth abortions. The more Congress learned about how doctors deliver second- and third-trimester fetuses - who often are viable on their own - halfway out of the mother only to stab them in the base of the skull with surgical scissors, the less sincerely Congress could defend canards like “a woman’s right” and “medical privacy.” Partial-birth abortion is no different than infanticide, and Congress tacitly admits this.

With every passing day between 1973 and 2003, science has helped blur the difference between abortion and infanticide. Thanks to an expanding field of research on prenatal care, society is coming to regard the pre-born baby as a real baby.

Sonogram pictures of one’s pre-born kids are everywhere these days. They are pinned to office bulletin boards, placed in picture frames on the desk, slipped into plastic sleeves in the wallet. Family members and colleagues pass these fuzzy black and white images around with glee, and usually having learned the baby’s sex from the sonogram, talk about “Caitlin” or “Max” as though the child was already cradle-able. Is it OK to abort Caitlin or Max?

Upon learning they’re pregnant, women nowadays don’t quit working, but they do quit smoking and having their hair colored, lest the chemicals interfere with fetal development. A woman who enjoys a glass of wine while she’s pregnant is often forced to defend herself, as onlookers grow wide-eyed at the sight of such “child abuse.” But a “dilation and evacuation” (aka partial-birth abortion) procedure wouldn’t be considered child abuse?

Equalization of the sexes has brought fathers out of waiting rooms and into delivery rooms in the past 30 years. Fathers are expected to show up for every sonogram appointment, to attend birthing classes, and to coach delivery. “We’re pregnant,” you hear couples say. Coed baby showers are becoming the norm.

How can a woman then turn around and claim, “Ultimately, it’s my body,” when society is finally acknowledging it’s a third person’s body in question, for which two other bodies are equally responsible?

Although New Hampshire’s parental notification bill addresses the relationship of the pregnant woman to her parents, and not the pregnant woman to her pre-born child, it’s still a baby-step in the right direction for the Granite State. Perhaps it should not be surprising that it took 30 years of science and societal change to move a state so practiced in skepticism.


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A good example of why we ought not to restrict science.
1 posted on 06/08/2003 5:44:03 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
Excellent read! Let's continue to put some reason and logic into the abortion debate.
2 posted on 06/08/2003 6:03:08 AM PDT by Kerberos (The problem is not that people know to little, it's that they know to much that ain't so.)
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To: Kerberos
The bottom line is that we know, without being scientific, that this is a human being at the most delicate, protective stages of life.

Using the argument, that a baby is just an appendage is like saying "cut my arm off". But if you cut someone's arm off, there is a loss to that person "as a whole". Cut a baby out and there is no loss to that person "as a whole". Only the baby loses.

3 posted on 06/08/2003 6:16:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau
“The bottom line is that we know, without being scientific, that this is a human being at the most delicate, protective stages of life.”

And what we also know is that the law has always held that an unborn child, until they become a living, breathing sentient being, outside of the mothers womb, has no rights.

So that being true instead of trying to restrict the rights of the individual, and thereby increasing the rights of government, why don’t we look into extending rights to the unborn child? It seems to me that none of the pro life groups ever consider that by giving the government the right to tell one that they cannot have an abortion, they are by default seting the precedent for the government to, at some future time, dictate that one must have an abortion. After all, we are setting the principle that rights in this matter do not reside with the individual, but with the government.

Do you understand the difference between the two choices?

4 posted on 06/08/2003 6:36:01 AM PDT by Kerberos (The problem is not that people know to little, it's that they know to much that ain't so.)
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To: Kerberos
"by giving the government the right to tell one that they cannot MURDER THEIR NEIGHBOR , they are by default seting the precedent for the government to, at some future time, dictate that one must MURDER THEIR NEIGHBOR

So clearly murdering one's neighbor shouldn't be illegal, right?

5 posted on 06/08/2003 8:35:45 AM PDT by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: Kerberos
"And what we also know is that the law has always held that an unborn child, until they become a living, breathing sentient being, outside of the mothers womb, has no rights. So that being true instead of trying to restrict the rights of the individual, and thereby increasing the rights of government, why don’t we look into extending rights to the unborn child? It seems to me that none of the pro life groups ever consider that by giving the government the right to tell one that they cannot have an abortion, they are by default seting the precedent for the government to, at some future time, dictate that one must have an abortion. After all, we are setting the principle that rights in this matter do not reside with the individual, but with the government."

Good comments. Except, it's not up to us to "extend" rights. Rights such as the right to life are unalienable. In this case, those rights are denied by us, to our everlasting shame.

Perhaps it's a minor point to many, but the notion that fundamental rights descend from a benevolent Government or the wisdom and generosity of the Majority is a hot-button to me.
6 posted on 06/08/2003 8:49:06 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RJCogburn
Pro-life bump!
7 posted on 06/08/2003 8:51:24 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RJCogburn; afraidfortherepublic; AlbionGirl; anniegetyourgun; Aquinasfan; arasina; Archangelsk; ...
Ping...
8 posted on 06/08/2003 8:54:27 AM PDT by cgk (Rummy on WMD: We haven't found Saddam Hussein yet, but I don't see anyone saying HE didn't exist.)
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To: RJCogburn
bump
9 posted on 06/08/2003 9:00:02 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: RJCogburn
It may be a simple point, and one that has been addressed but that I've missed, but I'd like to see intelligent freepers comment on the following: is a woman who gets an abortion the same as O.J. Simpson, morally speaking? And if so, would it be the view of most pro-life freepers that a 20 to life jail sentence ensue? And if not, why not?
10 posted on 06/08/2003 9:01:58 AM PDT by AlbionGirl (A kite flies highest against the wind, not with it. - Winston Churchill)
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To: cgk; tame
Great read!!!!! Thanks for the ping.
11 posted on 06/08/2003 9:03:19 AM PDT by cherry_bomb88 ("It's easier to fight for one's principals than to live up to them" ~Alfred Adler)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Ping! Here are the facts you wrote about that the Pro-lifers need to use!!!
12 posted on 06/08/2003 9:04:06 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
"but the notion that fundamental rights descend from a benevolent Government or the wisdom and generosity of the Majority is a hot-button to me.

And understandable so.

13 posted on 06/08/2003 9:05:43 AM PDT by Kerberos (The problem is not that people know to little, it's that they know to much that ain't so.)
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It
"they are by default seting the precedent for the government to, at some future time, dictate that one must MURDER THEIR NEIGHBOR "

We set the precedent for the government to murder a long time ago. It's called capital punishment.

14 posted on 06/08/2003 9:07:37 AM PDT by Kerberos (The problem is not that people know to little, it's that they know to much that ain't so.)
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To: Kerberos
There is quite a difference between killing a convicted murderer or rapist than an innocent baby!!!!!

My God - we have more laws protecting swan & goose eggs than we do unborn children! If I go out to the lake I live on and addle a swan egg I'll go to federal prison but if I go to the local abortionist/murderer it's okay. What's wrong with this picture?

15 posted on 06/08/2003 9:26:12 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
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To: RJCogburn
The advance of science has revealed much regarding the nature of individual human life prior to birth. While it is commendable that science has aided our understanding, it is also true that some in science wish to ignore ethical/moral standards in order to exploit the very same individual life in question as 'prenatal'. Cloning for stem cells is one such example of incorrect application of the very thing science has discovered regarding the individuality of prenatal human beings. Some balance ought be found whereby prenatal individuals are protected from exploitation simply because they are alive individual humans all along the continuum of their lifetime begun at conception.
16 posted on 06/08/2003 9:40:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: RJCogburn
Incidentally, RJ, thank you for posting this article. We would all be the better for it if you would also offer your incites regarding the issues.
17 posted on 06/08/2003 9:42:23 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: cgk
Thanks for the ping cgk,

Now if we can take what science has learned and properly teach school students about life before birth, and why the person waiting to be born should be protected under law!

See "Even Patricia Ireland Used To Be Pro-Life" at
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924984/posts?page=48
18 posted on 06/08/2003 10:26:04 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
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To: netmilsmom
Thank you!
19 posted on 06/08/2003 10:52:25 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford
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To: Sacajaweau; cgk
"...no loss to that person as a whole" .... except part of her soul.
20 posted on 06/08/2003 11:36:23 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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