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Beijing's ambitions and the Panama canal
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| 10 June 2003
| Peter Zhang
Posted on 06/10/2003 1:24:03 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
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posted on
06/10/2003 1:27:40 PM PDT
by
Publius
To: Tailgunner Joe; Sparta
Excellent post.
Sparta-ping.
If I am not mistaken, the Chicomms have the worlds largest naval base in the Bahamas. Should another Carter or Clinton become POTUS we will have big problems. Communism is not gone.
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posted on
06/10/2003 1:29:38 PM PDT
by
MattinNJ
To: Tailgunner Joe
Bttt!
To: Tailgunner Joe
"On the contrary, the Chinese will, as former President Clinton inadvertently blurted out, bend "over backwards to make sure that they run it in a competent and able and fair manner."
Competent, able and fair? Is that the way they run Hong Kong?
To: Tailgunner Joe
Great post!
On the contrary, the Chinese will, as former President Clinton inadvertently blurted out, bend "over backwards to make sure that they run it in a competent and able and fair manner." What matters, however, is not how the canal is managed but how Beijing will use the Hutchison Whampoa agreement to damage strategic US interests.
Thanks Bill >>/sarcasm>
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posted on
06/10/2003 1:37:02 PM PDT
by
Pro-Bush
(I don't believe in coincidences!)
To: ChaseR
ping
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posted on
06/10/2003 1:38:28 PM PDT
by
b4its2late
(Time may be a great healer, but it's also a lousy beautician.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Nobody seems to notice or care that H-W is part owner in Canadian Oil (Husky Oil).
Energy and InfrastructureThe Group has major shareholdings in Cheung Kong Infrastructure, a diversified infrastructure company; Hongkong Electric, the sole supplier of electricity to Hong Kong and Lamma Island; and
Husky Energy, one of Canada's largest integrated energy and energy related companies.
( red and emphasis is mine)
Last I heard, H-W owned 30% of Husky.
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posted on
06/10/2003 2:15:32 PM PDT
by
Lokibob
To: Publius
A report prepared by Free Republic.com
VII. SECURITY RISKS: The Panama Canal
'IRREPARABLE HARM' The Impact of Foreign Influences on the Clinton Administration, National Security, And National/International Policy prepared by TABLE OF CONTENTS
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GENERAL OVERVIEW
CHINA Overview
CHINA Adherence to Treaties and Agreements
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INTELLIGENCE WARNINGS - FBI Warns of Chinas Attempt to Influence Elections -
FOREIGN INFLUENCES - Riady / Lippo / Overview
FOREIGN INFLUENCES - John Huang
FOREIGN INFLUENCES - Changes in Policy towards Vietnam FOREIGN INFLUENCES - Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument
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FOREIGN INFLUENCES - American Companies and the China Connection, Loral, Hughes, and Chung
FOREIGN INFLUENCES - Changes in Export Policy, Satellites
FOREIGN INFLUENCES Changes in Export Policy, Telecommunications FOREIGN INFLUENCES Changes in Export Policy, Supercomputers FOREIGN INFLUENCES Changes in Export Policy, Encryption
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FOREIGN INFLUENCES COSCO, Poly Technologies, Chung, Trie -
SECURITY RISKS Los Alamos, Nuclear Secrets I
SECURITY RISKS Los Alamos, Nuclear Secrets II
SECURITY RISKS Los Alamos, Security Measures
SECURITY RISKS Panama Canal
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Review -
Related Sources -
Key People -
Acronyms -
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, OVERVIEW -
Timelines
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posted on
06/10/2003 2:35:46 PM PDT
by
Wolverine
To: MattinNJ
If I am not mistaken, the Chicomms have the worlds largest naval base in the Bahamas.
You are correct. NORINCO or H-W (both PLA front companies) operate the world's largest port in the Bahamas.
Should another Carter or Clinton become POTUS we will have big problems. Communism is not gone.
We don't need to wait for another Commie president to have problems, we have them now. The Chinese control the Panama Canal. Venezuela, Cuba, and Brazil are assembling the new ComBloc in Latin America. There are more Latin American nations in danger of going Red. The Chinese Navy is rapidly expanding and advancing technologically. The Chinese and Russians have formed an anti-American alliance known as the Shanghai Cooperation Project. Pakistan, Iran, and India are expected to join soon. The Chinese have stepped up their influence in Burma and are having talks with Vietnam. Also, the Russians have expanded their influence in Indonesia and Malaysia. The enemy is beginning to show themselves, we need to be prepared.
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posted on
06/10/2003 3:21:52 PM PDT
by
Sparta
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To: Tailgunner Joe
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posted on
06/10/2003 3:24:02 PM PDT
by
backhoe
(The 1990's will be forever remembered as "The Decade of Fraud(s)..."( Oslo, dot-bombs, clintons...))
To: *China stuff; HighRoadToChina; maui_hawaii; Slyfox; Free the USA; rightwing2; borghead; ChaseR; ...
China Ping!
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posted on
06/10/2003 3:26:59 PM PDT
by
Enemy Of The State
(Common sense is instinct, and enough of it is genius.)
To: Tailgunner Joe; Luis Gonzalez
I said earlier that it was believed that Castro is now a Chinese agent. I can now state that there is no if about it. While in China a state official confided to me that Beijing has successfully enlisted Fidel Castro as an ally and he is to be heavily supplied with weapons and cash. South America is the weapons eventual destination. The cash will be used, along with drugs, to finance revolutionary groups, buy off officials and corrupt politicians while the weapons will be shipped to select groups. Apparently Chinese intelligence has also invested a great deal in a Venezuelan army or former army officer who is linked to the DGI (Castro's KGB).
We are destined to live in interesting times.
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posted on
06/10/2003 4:09:04 PM PDT
by
marron
To: Tailgunner Joe
We can thank Jimmy Carter for giving our property, (The Panama Canal) away which we paid for and built the damn thing! Between the two of them, Carter & Clinton our nation was damaged, for many years and many years yet to come.
God Bless USA
To: All
After JFK failed to kick Cuba and Castro to the curb at the Bay of Pigs, a new Monroe Doctrine went in effect which Jimmah and Bubba would eventually build upon, call it the Marilyn Monroe Doctrine ..
Our National Security would eventually become another victim like Marilyn, all thanks to the demRats and those they would and will not confront, and today, openly support and commisserate with.
President Bush, Our hemisphere, our borders and our nation need a helluva lot more attention paid to them to prevent those within a stone's throw and a missile's fuelload of our shores of eventually overwhelming us.
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posted on
06/10/2003 5:20:47 PM PDT
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
To: MattinNJ
If I am not mistaken, the Chicomms have the worlds largest naval base in the Bahamas.
Umm...you would be mistaken. Good grief, where did you pick THAT idea up?
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posted on
06/10/2003 5:25:52 PM PDT
by
John H K
To: John H K
"If I am not mistaken, the Chicomms have the worlds largest naval base in the Bahamas."There were reports a coupe of years ago of COSCO building the worlds largest container port somewhere in the Bahamas. Speculation is that it would have dual functionality as a commercial and possibly future military facility.
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posted on
06/10/2003 5:54:21 PM PDT
by
semaj
To: Tailgunner Joe
Panama Canal is 7000-8000 miles away from the Chicoms
The Chicoms have no aircraft -carriers, no blue ocean navy , no airforce planes that can reach the Panama-they have no mid-air refueling
Panama does not recognize the Chicoms diplomatically, but recognize Taiwan
I say 2 American air-borne Divisions and a CVCG will easily evict the few Chicoms in the Panama
To: The Pheonix; Tailgunner Joe
The Chinese are busy conquering Panama the same way they managed their relations with the US during the nineties; they bought the president. They supposedly also bought the president of Venezuela, according to defectors.
Its much easier to invest a few million in a president, and save yourself the billions required for an aircraft carrier group.
Panama becomes their newest aircraft carrier; in fact, if they play their cards right, and make the right investments in the right congressmen and future members of the executive branch, the US becomes their aircraft carrier.
A few US Marines could potentially evict them from Panama, but someone would have to give the order; thus the importance of influencing who that person is, and influencing the congressmen who would have to ok the policy.
Furthermore, China is learning what Rumsfeld is trying to teach us; the new era of warfare is upon us, in which a few well-placed commandos can bring down a whole army; where similarly a few latin american troublespots can tie us down to the point that we can not afford to worry what China is up to, where we can not get too interested in anything outside our own hemisphere.
The war with China will be fought with guerrillas, with containerships smuggling dope and weapons. With well-placed bribes (remember that well-placed bribes helped to neutralize the Republican Guard). How hard would it be for the Chinese to buy every president in this hemisphere? Considering that they have already done it once, how hard would it be to buy the US president? This war will be fought in plain sight, but most people will not see it; our newspapers will tell us it isn't happening. And most people will never think a second thought about it.
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posted on
06/10/2003 11:03:12 PM PDT
by
marron
To: Tailgunner Joe
Bump!
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