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To: MEG33; Basil Duke; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge; HISSKGB; dix
Full text of Duranty's 1933 New York Times dispatch from Moscow bashing Gareth Jones for telling the truth about death in the Ukraine:

Russians Hungry, Not Starving

Jones' rebuttal of Duranty and articles by Malcolm Muggeridge on the genocide are here.

Stuart Kahan in "The Wolf of the Kremlin" writes how Kaganovich, the man Stalin called "My Himmler" was encouraged by articles in the New York Times:

He (Kaganovich) now saw himself being quoted more and more in Pravda, and then in a Polish paper and even in an article from Paris, and finally his name appeared in the prestigious New York Times. ...

He looked again at The New York Times of January 2, 1931, and he was pleased with what he read. He was referred to as "a new and energetic member of the Communist Party Politburo."

The papers were full of Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich. He was delighted when the staid New York Times once again spoke of him in long articles:

The reputation of Lazar M. Kaganovich, for conceiving largescale projects and accomplishing [sic] in Russia, almost overshadows that of Joseph Stalin himself . Mr. Kaganovich is credited with having originated the idea of machine-tractor stations, dominated by Commissar agents, for guiding the collectivized peasants, stimulating the agricultural output, and, in brief, consolidating the "agricultural revolution" effect by collectivization. ...


17 posted on 06/11/2003 9:32:11 AM PDT by DPB101
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To: DPB101
One can only hope that this happens.

Then a hard look at all undocumented sources and possible lies in the left wing media needs to be looked at for 7 decades.
18 posted on 06/11/2003 10:24:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: DPB101
And there is the "You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs quote".
19 posted on 06/11/2003 12:58:58 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: DPB101
The reputation of Lazar M. Kaganovich, for conceiving largescale projects and accomplishing [sic] in Russia, almost overshadows that of Joseph Stalin himself.

He was also proud of the fact that he personally engineered the slaughter of something like twenty million Kulaks in the process of "collectivising" the farms. Twenty million dead Christians, murdered by Mr. Lazar M. Kaganovich, who was Jewish. Yet no movies about the Kulaks, no weepy T.V. shows, no long detailed newspaper articles. Nothing at all really. It really is true; some animals really are more equal than others.

22 posted on 06/11/2003 1:55:01 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob ("He who will not reason is a bigot;He who cannot is a fool;He who dares not is a slave." W. Drummond)
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To: DPB101
The love affair between the NYT and the murderous bolsheviks was conveniently put into place when the Ochs/Sultzberger family bought the NYT.

Cleverly they printed an odd story or two to disguise their real sympathies, but nothing can hide the printed exultations that exuded from the Times as they celebrated the 'revolutionary spirit' of the bolshevik murderers during the Russian Revolution.

From the gitgo the Ochs/Sultberger crowd did their best to undermine the best values of their host country.

27 posted on 06/11/2003 6:23:33 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: DPB101
Thanks for the links. I'd seen that site before, but had lost track of it. Following is a brief excerpt from Viktor Kravchenko's "I Chose Freedom." The author was a former member of Stalin's secret police who had regular contact with the dying Kulaks. In conversation, a starving peasant told him: "We've eaten everything we could lay our hands on - cats, dogs, field mice, birds - when it's light tomorrow you will see the trees have been stripped of the bark, for that too has been eaten. And the horse manure has been eaten. Yes, the horse manure. We fight over it. Sometimes there are whole grains in it."
28 posted on 06/12/2003 7:03:57 AM PDT by Basil Duke
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