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Tales of Saddam's Brutality [lengthy, graphic, White House websight]
White House -> various press. ^ | Updated regularly, latest - June 3, 2003

Posted on 06/11/2003 6:10:41 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl


June 3, 2003

Tales of Saddam's Brutality

U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Christopher Graham
U.S. Marine Corps photo by
Lance Cpl. Christopher Graham
Remains found at mass gravesites, located near a farm on the outskirts of Al Mahawil, Iraq, May 7, 2003.
The cruelty of Saddam's regime is most evident by its brutality toward citizens of Iraq. Today, mass grave sites have been identified in Iraq, providing further evidence of Saddam Hussein's atrocities against the Iraqi people. The Coalition is working to help grieving families search for lost relatives and preserve evidence for future prosecutions by the new Iraqi government against the perpetrators. Some activities include:

 



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: unspeakable
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1 posted on 06/11/2003 6:10:41 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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2 posted on 06/11/2003 6:16:50 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
And the left insists on holding hearings because we were wrong in invading Iraq.

I say, BRING IT ON, M*****F*****S!!!

3 posted on 06/11/2003 6:18:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE DO NOT CROSS POLICE TAGLINE D)
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To: AntiGuv
FYI
4 posted on 06/11/2003 6:25:20 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for keeping us informed!
5 posted on 06/11/2003 6:27:21 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bookmark Bump!
6 posted on 06/11/2003 6:43:18 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This post should be forwarded to every Democrat on the hill that wants to know why our president sent troops to Iraq. The links between Saddam and Al Queda seem irrelevent to them.
7 posted on 06/11/2003 6:47:52 AM PDT by tomball
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To: Lazamataz
The press is sick...truly blind. At least we know the answer to one big question: "Why do they hate us?" Who taught them what they know think about us?
 
VOICES OF FREEDOM
Quotes from the grateful Iraqi people. Y
 

“I have no more fear now. From the moment Iraq was liberated I felt as though my two sons had been brought back to me.”
A woman whose 17-year-old son, Sardar Osman Faraj, was executed in Iraq in 1985 and another was killed by unknown assassins in 1992. Los Angeles Times, 6/8/03

“Every day I buy a different paper. I like them all.”
Ali Jabar, 28, picking up a Kurdish daily newly available in Iraq, Washington Post, 6/8/03

“It's a big change. We used to get central instructions from the Ministry of Information. Now we no longer do. Azzaman is independent. It lets the readers learn and decide the political currents.”
Abdel-Majid, of the Azzaman newspaper in Iraq, Washington Post, 6/8/03

“Newspapers are not the only forum being used to express political views in postwar Iraq. The walls of the capital – once decorated with portraits of Saddam Hussein – have become a battleground for competing ideas. They even show a sense of humor. In Baghdad this week, the following was neatly written in marker on the back of a double-decker bus: ‘Very urgent, wanted: New president for Iraq.’”
Washington Post, 6/8/03

“Things have changed. There’s not the same fear. I didn’t see my future here before. Now, maybe I do.”
Ardelan Karim, who unsuccessfully attempted to flee Iraq four times after escaping Saddam’s executioners, The New York Times, 06/05/03

“This is like a dream for us. The Americans liberated us and gave us our freedom. We hope they stay to protect the minorities like us.”
Emir Farooq Saeed Ali Beg, a member of the formerly persecuted Yazidi tribe, The Times (London), 06/05/03

“We are all very happy and comfortable. This is the freedom we want.”
Yizmak Askander Abu, a teacher in Rassalin, The Times (London), 06/05/03

"It is a good beginning. The people will feel better when their bellies are filled. They will calm down. They will see what is possible. Thank you, George Bush. Thank you, America.”
Kissan Bahjet, distributing a new shipment of rations to his fellow Iraqis, The Washington Post, 06/02/03

“I never allowed myself to live all these years. Every day I thought, now they’re going to come and take me. I was always waiting.”
Nasir al-Husseini, 22, who survived a mass execution at age 10, The New York Times, 06/01/03

“For the first time in Iraq, democratic processes are put in place to elect government officials. Democratic elections are a new phenomenon in today’s Iraq. True democracy appears with the absence of dictatorships and tyranny.”
The Iraqi newspaper Al Naba, 06/01/03

“God willing, the guilty will be punished.”
An elderly Iraqi man at the site of a mass grave, The Daily Telegraph (London), 06/01/03

“Freedom means to travel, to get the job I want, to study in the college I want.”
Ahmed al-Samarai, a citizen of Iraq, Associated Press, 5/29/03

“No one knows what freedom means. When [we] were born, we opened our eyes to Saddam and everything was forbidden. Our life was all about fear.”
Salima al-Majali, a citizen of Iraq, Associated Press, 5/29/03

“All we have known is war, war and war. Everything was forbidden.”
Suad al-Saham, a Shiite Muslim in Iraq, Associated Press, 5/29/03

“I couldn’t teach the students the truth. I was unable to tell them that we were ruled by a dictator. If I did, my neck would be on the line.”
Wijda Khalidi, an Iraqi schoolteacher, Associated Press, 5/29/03

“I cannot describe how I am glad. After so many years of dictatorship, we have chosen our own leader.”
Kemal Kerkuki, after participating in the election of Kirkuk’s new mayor, The New York Times, 5/29/03

“I’m not going to mention his name in class anymore. No more Saddam.”
Naheda Muhammad Nage, an Iraqi schoolteacher, The New York Times, 05/28/03

“What Naheda Muhammad Nage did to the textbook she uses to teach social studies here was just as dramatic as the toppling of Saddam Hussein statues or the looting of Saddam Hussein palaces that took place after the American-led invasion of Iraq. Ms. Nage used a pen to cross out passages that focused on Mr. Hussein, the Baath Party he represented and his many supposed achievements. It was an act that could have led to her death just a few months ago.”
The New York Times, 05/28/03

“Now that Iraq is free, we are demanding freedom and equal rights that Iraqi women have always been deprived of.”
Eman Ahmed, member of the Rising Iraqi Women’s Organization, Associated Press, 5/21/03

“I can tell you all these things now because we are free. Before, we lived like exiles in our own country.”
Suhaib Abbas Majeed, an Iraqi medical student, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 5/21/03

“Chosen by representatives of the various ethnic groups in town, the council meets twice a week to discuss everything from what to do with unexploded ordnance lying around town to what to do with the remaining Baathist functionaries. Trade with Syria has been reopened, schools are functioning, and police are patrolling together with the Americans.”
Description of the city of Mosul, Christian Science Monitor, 5/21/03

“This is the first time in our lives we have experienced democracy. It is a beautiful thing. Everyone is excited. Everyone is here. …Not complaining. Coming to vote.”
Rabaab Mahmoud Kassar, a female attorney in Najaf who participated in the election of the town’s new judges, The Washington Post, 5/21/03

“The Iraqi people tried but failed to remove Saddam Hussein for 35 years. It was a difficult task, and we thank the Americans.”
Sayyed Bashir al-Musawi, an Iraqi cleric in northern Baghdad, The Dallas Morning News, 5/20/03

“Every day in Iraq a few more newspapers start publishing, taking advantage of the first freedom of speech most Iraqis have ever known.”
The Times (London), 5/20/03

“We’ve been living in jail for three decades. Now, we are free. Help is coming. Day by day, life is for the better.”
Saddam Agil, grandfather of five and resident of Basra, USA Today, 5/20/03

"Before we used to commemorate the day hidden at home, we were afraid of Saddam's agents who were everywhere and spied on us. Today I feel happy."
Faithela Asam, an Iraqi Shiite, on publicly celebrating the birthday of Mohamed for the first time in decades, Agence France Presse, 5/19/03

"There is more freedom and more openness. ...we can express ourselves freely and without threats."
Ali al-Fatlawi, a former Iraqi government reporter who now writes for the independent Iraqi newspaper Assaah, Associated Press, 5/19/03

"We are a free voice that does not belong to any party. We wanted this channel to be free and speak in the name of all Iraqi people."
Khalil al-Tayar, director of the new Karbala Television station, Associated Press, 5/19/03

"Good, good, good."
Iraqi children called as they ran up to U.S. troops, Christian Science Monitor, 5/19/03

"We love you."
An Iraqi citizen in Mosul, speaking to L. Paul Bremer III, the new U.S. civilian administrator for Iraq, Los Angeles Times, 5/19/03

"We can say anything we want in public. Now we’re free."
Safaz al Hellou, an Iraqi teenager, The Philadelphia Inquirer, 5/19/03

"Some people say we issued declarations against the Americans. But they are lying. We want to thank the coalition troops. We want them to demonstrate the rebuilding. We will give them a chance to do that."
Ali Rubaii, a representative for one of the four most powerful clerics in Iraq, Washington Post, 5/15/03

"This is the first attempt for us to run our town by ourselves. We are ready to rebuild our town, and we are ready to rebuild our country."
Najim Abed Mahdi, a chairman of the Umm Qasr interim town council, The Guardian (London), 5/15/03

"The Iraqi teams used to produce the champions of Asia in many sports. They have declined since the arrival of Uday. Now we want to rebuild them with the help of the international community."
Sharar Haydar, president of the newly formed Free Iraq Olympic Group and one of Uday Hussein's former torture victims, The Guardian (London), 5/15/03

"It was not the usual start to a new school term. ‘Open your books and turn to page four,’ the teacher instructed the pupils sitting in the gloom of an unlit classroom. Obediently they flicked through the pages until they reached the familiar photograph of a smiling Saddam Hussein standing in front of an Iraqi flag. ‘Now rip it out,’ the teacher said, to the astonishment of her pupils."
The Times (London), 5/14/03

"They couldn't leave one job for another without having both a letter from their old employer releasing them from their job and another letter from their new employer accepting them. It blows their minds when we tell them they should just do what they want, they don't need our permission or anybody else's to change jobs."
Sgt. Mark Hadsell, describing some Iraqis’ difficulties with freedom after living in a under Saddam Hussein, Scripps Howard News Service, 5/14/03

"Trained under the old government that put Uday Hussein, one of Saddam’s sons, in charge of the Union of Journalists, the reporters and editors of Al Azzaman are used to being forbidden to use certain words, like ‘democracy,’ or to examine certain issues, like the oil industry. Almost every day, someone asks Mr. (Saad) Bazzaz if it is all right to criticize some public figure or another."
New York Times, 5/13/03

"The Americans did not come just to help the Kurds. (Still) it's great to be free."
Ryzgar Azhi , in an Erbil tea house, New York Times, 5/13/03

"This is the happiest moment we all felt. It’s a primordial feeling -- this tyrant coming down."
Yussra Hussen, San Francisco Chronicle, 5/12/03

"I am happy that Saddam is gone. The teachers told me to love Saddam. My parents told me he was a bad man."
Dina, 7, U.S. News & World Report, 5/12/03

"We are not fighting anybody. We will not raise our weapons because freedom is within our sight. We want an Iraqi government that represents all Iraqis. Sunni and Shia Muslims, Kurds, Turcomans and religious minorities -- they will have their rights in this land."
Returned Iraqi exile Ayatollah Hakim, speech to Iraqis in Najaf, London Daily Telegraph, 5/12/03

"It is best the USA removed this criminal man (Saddam)."
Sheik Al-Bo Aiesa Muzahin Ali Kareem, a clan leader who turned over weapons in a gesture of good will, Associated Press, 5/12/03

"Beautiful, beautiful. Not Iraqi TV. Not Saddam Hussein TV. Beautiful."
Akhbal Ibrahim Rashid watching her satellite dish-equipped television, Los Angeles Times, 5/9/03

"We want to know everything, not just about Iraq but about the whole world. Sales are very good. What was prohibited is wanted."
Amir abu Abdullah, an overnight dish salesman whose shop is his battered 1982 Chevrolet Celebrity, Los Angeles Times, 5/9/03

"The first time in my whole life I've seen such things. I feel free."
Yasir Abdul Razaq, 20, said while watching British news, Israeli news and a program from Abu Dhabi about lions, Los Angeles Times, 5/9/03

"In Iraq’s heady new atmosphere of freedom, political parties have launched newspapers, radio stations and small private armies. They are scrambling to woo voters with promises of democracy, prosperity and free phone calls to relatives abroad. After three decades of official repression, a cacophonous jumble of long-dormant ideologies has come tumbling out into the daylight of the country’s unshackled political marketplace."
Chicago Tribune, 5/9/03

"All my life I have been escaping. So I have dreamed of freedom, of traveling abroad, of feeling life the way all young people do. Maybe now I will."
Mohammed Khadum, 28, in Baghdad, Washington Post, 5/8/03

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8 posted on 06/11/2003 6:53:01 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

9 posted on 06/11/2003 6:53:03 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (http://www.ourgangnet.net)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
never forget
10 posted on 06/11/2003 7:02:19 AM PDT by CGVet58 (I still miss my ex-wife... but my aim is improving!)
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To: MEG33
You're very welcome, MEG. The new AP report on "civilian casualties" - implying once again that our awesome, mature, careful, honorable troops were somehow responsible - about sent me down to my local newspaper to slap the editor upside the head. I don't care if they depend on these "newswires" - 'just following orders' is no excuse for local American newspeople, either. Not after 911. Not with this mainstream press.
Posted on the OIF thread:

MSNBC's Bob Arnott: Iraqi Hospitals Filled Children with Gunshots - From Saddam's Fedeyeen
MSNBC | 4-10-2003

Bob Arnott was just on MSNBC reporting that he had traveled to many of the hospitals in the area and assisted in the care for the many children in the facilities that have been struck by gunfire (he's also a doctor). He said he was unsure what the mood in the hospitals would be but found the doctors and patients to be "ecstatic" that Saddam was gone. He then said that the gunshots were all made by small caliber weapons that the U.S. Army does not have and, when he inquired further about the cause of the wounds, he was told by parents and hospital staff that the paramilitary forces were shooting kids on purpose to make it look like the U.S. forces were inflicting civilian casualties.


11 posted on 06/11/2003 7:05:56 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
great post
12 posted on 06/11/2003 7:06:27 AM PDT by votelife (FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
book marked and bumped.
13 posted on 06/11/2003 7:07:50 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
The UN estimate before the war was that there would be hundreds of thousands killed and wounded.Let's celebrate their lack of credibility.
14 posted on 06/11/2003 7:22:54 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for this post, RC. Bump for justice!
15 posted on 06/11/2003 7:53:07 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: tomball
CENTCOM - Daily:
*COALITION EFFORTS AID IRAQ’S RECOVERY (June 11, 2003)
*COALITION AND IRAQI POLICE WORK TO MAKE IRAQ SECURE (June 11, 2003)

***Operation Infinite Freedom - Sit Room - 11 JUN 03/Day 84***


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A good mega-media e-mail link site (LOTS):

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16 posted on 06/11/2003 8:09:44 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Kudos on your hard work of indexing and accumulating these stories that the left wing and many on the right wing want to ignore.
17 posted on 06/11/2003 9:11:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom; MeeknMing; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head; RonDog; tame; summer; ...
 Freep the pols and press - then bypass them. Inform the world.

Anybody have the world's e-mail address?

18 posted on 06/11/2003 9:27:54 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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19 posted on 06/11/2003 9:39:15 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks! Bookmarked and bumped, for the nation that is "the last best hope on earth."
20 posted on 06/11/2003 9:41:14 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks, Grampa Dave. We try to find and post these stories at the war thread daily, but the Tales of Saddam's Brutality info is posted (and updated regularly) at the White House web sight (left column -> click "Iraq"), along with the Liberation Update - Voices of Freedom.

A child, we know, could find this information on the net. The press and pols...??? It seems that a reasonable person would question their methods, their motives and their honor.

21 posted on 06/11/2003 10:31:39 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Miss Marple
for the nation that is "the last best hope on earth."

Amen, Miss Marple.

You might enjoy this Lt's 'instructions' for the misinformed America-bashing nations of the world: Living With America  ^.

22 posted on 06/11/2003 10:50:04 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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Correction: #16 - please remove comma following Sen. Chambliss's addee before cutting and pasting (saxby_chambliss@chambliss.senate.gov).
23 posted on 06/11/2003 11:19:07 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump.
24 posted on 06/11/2003 11:19:55 AM PDT by k2blader (Haruspex, beware.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Excellent work RC! Bookmarked and Thanks!

Prairie
25 posted on 06/11/2003 11:50:37 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the world: " We don't want no STINKING PEACE!!")
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To: prairiebreeze
Welcome, prairie.

I hate adding this, but something has to get through the thick skulls on the left:




(Photo:imisite.org)

For people who believe Hussein would never use such weaponry, see above photo. Saddam Hussein used WMD against his own people, with the above results.


(Photo:imisite.org)

Saddam Hussein continues to brutalise his own people, even his own family. When he isn't gassing his own people, or murdering Marsh Arabs, he executes and tortures opponents and citizens alike.
 
c/o: http://www.weestoo.co.uk/target/. - pre-liberation.

26 posted on 06/11/2003 1:28:04 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Howlin; Alamo-Girl; eleni121; Wolfstar; Dog; glock rocks; BagCamAddict
FYI. Please share w/ a 'caring' left-wing accuser. This WH 'file' may shock (shame) one or two Democrats back to reality.
27 posted on 06/11/2003 6:54:53 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: I think therefore I am; Chairman_December_19th_Society; Angelwood
FYI. WH Saddam atrocity file. Please share w/ a 'caring' Dem. accuser.

Not a ping list.

28 posted on 06/11/2003 6:57:00 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
yike. there goes my thursday morning :o}

mother lode!

thank you RC, and bump to the top.
29 posted on 06/11/2003 7:03:22 PM PDT by glock rocks (remember -- only you can prevent fundraisers. become a monthly donor.)
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To: sarcasm; hchutch; fightinJAG; Lady In Blue; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
FYI. Not a ping list. One mass-grave is a horror. The Saddam atrocity file may change the heart of even some brainwashed Dems. Updated regularly - unfortunately.
30 posted on 06/11/2003 7:03:33 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: glock rocks
You're very welcome. Thanks, glock. I spent a few hours forwarding the info today. Think it has 'scared straight' potential? I like a good partisan fight as well as the next guy, but today's Dems. are a threat to national security.
31 posted on 06/11/2003 7:06:51 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Bonaparte; brownie; Political Numbers Guy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Iowa Granny
FYI. NOT a ping list. WH Saddam horror archive for sharing w/ a 'caring' accuser. Please ping and pass it on. Thank you!
32 posted on 06/11/2003 7:09:34 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for the heads up!
33 posted on 06/11/2003 9:03:57 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thank you for posting this! I'll read it tomorrow. My eyes are kind of tired right now.It looks great!
34 posted on 06/11/2003 9:44:15 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld,Rice 2004)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks so much for this post. I bookmarked it. I get so sick when Dims assault GW for going to war in Iraq. Just this makes it all worth while.
35 posted on 06/11/2003 9:50:57 PM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for your work, I will be providing links on appropriate threads.

6 million Iraqis killed by Saddam, and the left wing and far right wing want to ignore this terrible chapter in their lifetimes. May a pox descend on their lives!
36 posted on 06/12/2003 4:39:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Evil Old White Devil Californian Grampa for big Al Sharpton and Nader in primaries!)
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I agree, NW. The case against Saddam has been made for a long time. The pols and press have know excuse.

Kurdish village offers proof of Saddam's crimes against humanity
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 2/16/03 | Trudy Rubin

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This is the town where Saddam murdered 5,000 Kurdish civilians in a matter of hours on March 16, 1988, when his military sprayed and shelled them with VX, sarin and mustard gas.

The population cowered in their homes, or ran out into the streets, or crowded into government air-raid shelters built for the Iran-Iraq war. I peer into the remnants of one belowground shelter, now a fetid pit filled with garbage, where 120 men, women and children perished.

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This was a revenge killing by Saddam. Some Iraqi Kurdish leaders had helped the Iranians. Such aid was not surprising: Saddam's troops had slaughtered more than 100,000 Iraqi Kurds and razed 4,500 Kurdish villages in the 1980s.

Even though the Iran-Iraq war was ending, Saddam wanted to punish the Kurds further. So he became the first leader since World War I to unleash a major chemical weapons attack on civilians — and the first ever to gas his own population.

"He had been producing nerve and mustard gas, ricin, anthrax, and viruses and bacteria," says Fouad Shaban, a prominent Kurdish physician who has studied the medical effects of the Halabja attack. "He had piles of chemical weapons in air bases, so why would he not use them?"

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Certainly Saddam was not deterred by any qualms over a long-term health disaster. He knew the effects of the gases, says Shaban, because they had been tested on hundreds of political prisoners.

The survivors of Halabja, and scores of other small villages that were also gassed, suffer from increased rates of cancer, scars, blindness, continuous itching, and severe breathing problems. Women miscarry, and their babies suffer abnormal numbers of birth defects.

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Halabja is near some mountain villages where a small number of al-Qaida terrorists are en-sconced along with a few hundred radical Kurdish Islamists who want to establish an Islamic state in Kurdistan. I could see those villages from a peshmerga fortress in the valley that exchanges regular mortar fire with the terrorists....

...Kurdish intelligence officers tell me that Iraq is helping this small al-Qaida cell for a more local reason — because these terrorists are attacking secular Kurdish leaders. In other words, Saddam is willing to make common cause with his al-Qaida enemy to keep himself in power, and al-Qaida will use his help for its own goals.

It is this ferocious determination to keep power, for which he will use any means, that makes Saddam more dangerous than the usual despot. My Halabja trip convinced me that the U.N. Security Council has only two options: commit to maintaining intense weapons inspections of Iraq as long as Saddam rules Iraq, or pass a second resolution to disarm him by force.

I say this with trepidation because I don't think the council will take up the first option. The consequences of war, while they would improve life for Iraqis, could trap the United States in a Mideast quagmire. But I believe there is no choice. The man who used chemical weapons against Halabja will never willingly let go of them.

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37 posted on 06/12/2003 6:10:51 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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Rats or Humans? Inside Saddam's Extermination Plant [Aug. 2002]
Originally in the Sydney Morning Herald (http://www.smh.com.au/ ) thru "The Iraqi Foundation" ^|


38 posted on 06/12/2003 6:12:34 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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FAS (Fed Am Scientist) Report: Iraqi Precursor Chemicals Stored Separately for Weapon-side Mixing 
FAS.org ^ | Federation of American Scientists  (duel-use chems, pestocides etc., w/good WMD links)


39 posted on 06/12/2003 6:13:33 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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Iraqi Units May Have Orders to Use Chem/Bio Weapons

By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, March 28, 2003 -- Coalition forces have seen indications that Iraqi units have been given the freedom to use chemical weapons, Army Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks said today.

Brooks, deputy director of operations at CENTCOM's deployed headquarters in Qatar, told a press conference that intelligence sources indicate that once coalition troops reach a certain point Iraqi forces may use these weapons of mass destruction.

"Orders have been given that at a certain point, chemical weapons might be used," Brooks said. "We've seen chemical protective equipment in a number of areas south of where we thought that red line might be."

Coalition forces found 3,000 chemical- and biological-agent protective suits in Nasiriyah, and there have been similar discoveries further south. "As we put just those two pieces together, we certainly have indications," he said.

But officials don't believe there is a definitive order to begin using the weapons. "I have not seen anything that says an order has been given to fire," Brooks said. "We know that the capability does indeed exist. We know that the will exists. And we take it very, very seriously at this point, and we'll prepare ourselves accordingly."

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40 posted on 06/12/2003 6:14:29 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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Saddam's Surgeons: First, Do Harm
..The state wanted them to have "dirty hands," said one senior surgeon, who told us that they acted on a government mandate ordering all surgeons to participate in cutting off the ears and branding the foreheads of army deserters. In one hospital, all surgeons -- general, orthopedic, plastic, cardiac and neurosurgeons -- were reportedly required to perform the mutilation.
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41 posted on 06/12/2003 6:31:34 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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Did the Iraq War Help al-Qaeda? By Christopher Hitchens
Slate | May 21, 2003
 
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Thus if nothing has been found so far, and if literally nothing (except the mobile units predicted and described by one defector) is found from now on, it will mean that the operation was a success. The stuff must have been destroyed, or neutralized, or work on it must have been abandoned during the long grace period that was provided by the U.N. debates. One senior U.N. inspector adds a caveat to that, which is worth stressing. The intention of the regime to acquire weapons at some point, or to reacquire them, should not be doubted. There are many blueprints and many brains and many computer discs full of know-how. These would be nearly if not actually impossible to discover, and they will now not be reassembled by a Baathist government. Thus if you take my line of the "long short war," and a timeline of 1990 to 2003, Saddam Hussein went from being a threshold nuclear potentate with the capacity to invade Kuwait to an ex-potentate unable even to deploy his Republican Guard. This was the outcome of a series of measures, from sanctions to bombing, designed to create the conditions for regime change or to make regime change (desirable for numberless other reasons) possible. The anti-war movement opposed even the sanctions at first and the military part of the operation at all times. But Iraq is now disarmed, and who will argue that it was not the believable threat of intervention that brought this about?
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42 posted on 06/12/2003 6:33:10 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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Marines free 123 from Iraq hellhole

FOR three days, American tanks have been shelling a military intelligence building in the posh Al-Khathamia area in west Baghdad.

The dozen or so tanks are not here to pound intransigent fighters but to break down concrete beams and steel, to reach bunkers deep underground at the Al-Istikhbarat Al-'Askariya facility.
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The Marines found 123 prisoners, including five women, barely alive in an underground warren of cells and torture chambers.

Being trapped underground probably kept them safe from the bombing of Baghdad by the coalition.

Severely emaciated, some had survived by eating the scabs off their sores. All the men had beards down to their waists, said onlookers.

Most looked absolutely dazed when they emerged, said Mr Sadoun Mohamed, 37, who lives in the area.

'They had not seen sunlight for a long time,' he said. 'They kept blinking and covering their faces.' He said they were taken to the Saddam Hospital for treatment.

Their names were posted on the walls of the Al-Hajabehia Mosque in west Baghdad, as were names of some 40 others known to have been executed or murdered in prison.

Hundreds of anxious locals wait for word of their family, relatives and friends, some of whom were taken away more than 10 years ago.

Outside Al-Istikhbarat Al-'Askariya, Mr Sadeq Al Saeed, 24, a construction worker, has been waiting sleepless for the last 36 hours. He said he had heard the facility had five levels below ground.

He said his father, an Iraqi army captain, was killed in 1991 during the first Gulf War, and his cousins Amer and Jasem and some 50 others were picked out by the secret police for chanting anti-Saddam slogans during the funeral procession.

'That was the last I saw of them,' he said.

'In the night, people raided their houses, blindfolded them and took them away.'

He hopes against hope that the Marines will be able to find his cousins, who were brought here to be interrogated.

This hellhole is believed to be one of many for Iraq's political prisoners. Thousands may still be behind bars though the regime released many criminals from prisons before the war.

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43 posted on 06/12/2003 8:10:24 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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Yasser Alaskary
Media affairs director, Iraqi Prospect Organisation

Wednesday May 21, 2003, UK Guardian
 
"I am feeling quite low at the moment; I did think that people opposed to the war were genuinely concerned for the Iraqi people and the losses we might have suffered. Now I realise that people's opinions of this war were based almost entirely on a hatred of American policy.
 
I have always said that declaring war on the basis of the presence of weapons of mass destruction was stupid, but I would have supported anything that got rid of Saddam. It is only now that people living in Iraq can say that they supported the war."
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Yasser Alaskey, Feb. 2003:
 
"The authorities came to find my parents in the middle of the night - they suspected my father of being involved in the opposition. My uncle pretended to be my father to give him time to run away. My father was taken to the Iranian border by a friend while my mother was driven to Sulaymaniyah, northern Iraq. She was hiding in a small village when she gave birth to me in August 1980. She later fled with me to Syria with fake documents, before coming to Britain.

When Saddam's men come after one person they hunt the whole family. My mother's sister and her family were also suspected of supporting the opposition. In Iraq, mere suspicion of something is enough to get you taken in for questioning. Reports from people released from prison say they saw the authorities burning my two-year-old cousin alive in front of her parents to get them to talk. As they refused my aunt was raped in front of my uncle and executed. Eventually my uncle was also executed. My grandparents managed to hide their one-year-old son; he was later smuggled to Iran."

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44 posted on 06/12/2003 8:11:22 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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(2003/01/27): "How Many People Has Saddam Hussein Killed?"


By JOHN F. BURNS

In the unlit blackness of an October night, it took a flashlight to pick them out: rust-colored butchers' hooks, 20 or more, each four or five feet long, aligned in rows along the ceiling of a large hangar-like building. In the grimmest fortress in Iraq's gulag, on the desert floor 20 miles west of Baghdad, this appeared to be the grimmest corner of all, the place of mass hangings that have been a documented part of life under Saddam Hussein.

At one end of the building at Abu Ghraib prison, a whipping wind gusted through open doors. At the far end, the flashlight picked out a windowed space that appeared to function as a control room. Baggy trousers of the kind worn by many Iraqi men were scattered at the edges of the concrete floor. Some were soiled, as if worn in the last, humiliating moments of a condemned man's life.

The United States is facing a new turning point in its plans to go to war to topple Mr. Hussein, with additional American troops heading for the Persian Gulf, while France and Germany lead the international opposition. But the pressure President Bush has applied already has created chances to peer into the darkest recesses of Iraqi life.

In the past two months, United Nations weapons inspections, mandated by American insistence that Mr. Hussein's pursuit of banned weapons be halted, have ranged widely across the country. But before this became the international community's only goal, Mr. Bush was also attacking Mr. Hussein as a murdering tyrant. It was this accusation that led the Iraqi leader to virtually empty his prisons on Oct. 20, giving Western reporters, admitted that day to Abu Ghraib, a first-hand glimpse of the slaughterhouse the country has become.

In the end, if an American-led invasion ousts Mr. Hussein, and especially if an attack is launched without convincing proof that Iraq is still harboring forbidden arms, history may judge that the stronger case was the one that needed no inspectors to confirm: that Saddam Hussein, in his 23 years in power, plunged this country into a bloodbath of medieval proportions, and exported some of that terror to his neighbors.

Reporters who were swept along with tens of thousands of near-hysterical Iraqis through Abu Ghraib's high steel gates were there because Mr. Hussein, stung by Mr. Bush's condemnation, had declared an amnesty for tens of thousands of prisoners, including many who had served long sentences for political crimes. Afterward, it emerged that little of long-term significance had changed that day. Within a month, Iraqis began to speak of wide-scale re-arrests, and officials were whispering that Abu Ghraib, which had held at least 20,000 prisoners, was filling up again.

Like other dictators who wrote bloody chapters in 20th-century history, Mr. Hussein was primed for violence by early childhood. Born into the murderous clan culture of a village that lived off piracy on the Tigris River, he was harshly beaten by a brutal stepfather. In 1959, at age 22, he made his start in politics as one of the gunmen who botched an attempt to assassinate Iraq's first military ruler, Abdel Karim Kassem.

Since then, Mr. Hussein's has been a tale of terror that scholars have compared to that of Stalin, whom the Iraqi leader is said to revere, even if his own brutalities have played out on a small scale. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people, historians have concluded. Even on a proportional basis, his crimes far surpass Mr. Hussein's, but figures of a million dead Iraqis, in war and through terror, may not be far from the mark, in a country of 22 million people.

Where the comparison seems closest is in the regime's mercilessly sadistic character. Iraq has its gulag of prisons, dungeons and torture chambers — some of them acknowledged, like Abu Ghraib, and as many more disguised as hotels, sports centers and other innocent-sounding places. It has its overlapping secret-police agencies, and its culture of betrayal, with family members denouncing each other, and offices and factories becoming hives of perfidy.

"Enemies of the state" are eliminated, and their spouses, adult children and even cousins are often tortured and killed along with them.

Mr. Hussein even uses Stalinist maxims, including what an Iraqi defector identified as one of the dictator's favorites: "If there is a person, then there is a problem. If there is no person, then there is no problem."

There are rituals to make the end as terrible as possible, not only for the victims but for those who survive. After seizing power in July 1979, Mr. Hussein handed weapons to surviving members of the ruling elite, then joined them in personally executing 22 comrades who had dared to oppose his ascent.

The terror is self-compounding, with the state's power reinforced by stories that relatives of the victims pale to tell — of fingernail-extracting, eye-gouging, genital-shocking and bucket-drowning. Secret police rape prisoners' wives and daughters to force confessions and denunciations. There are assassinations, in Iraq and abroad, and, ultimately, the gallows, the firing squads and the pistol shots to the head.

DOING the arithmetic is an imprecise venture. The largest number of deaths attributable to Mr. Hussein's regime resulted from the war between Iraq and Iran between 1980 and 1988, which was launched by Mr. Hussein. Iraq says its own toll was 500,000, and Iran's reckoning ranges upward of 300,000. Then there are the casualties in the wake of Iraq's 1990 occupation of Kuwait. Iraq's official toll from American bombing in that war is 100,000 — surely a gross exaggeration — but nobody contests that thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians were killed in the American campaign to oust Mr. Hussein's forces from Kuwait. In addition, 1,000 Kuwaitis died during the fighting and occupation in their country.

Casualties from Iraq's gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have "disappeared" into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.

Just as in Stalin's Russia, the machinery of death is mostly invisible, except for the effects it works on those brushed by it — in the loss of relatives and friends, and in the universal terror that others have of falling into the abyss. If anybody wants to know what terror looks like, its face is visible every day on every street of Iraq.

"Minders," the men who watch visiting reporters day and night, are supposedly drawn from among the regime's harder men. But even they break down, hands shaking, eyes brimming, voices desperate, when reporters ask ordinary Iraqis edgy questions about Mr. Hussein.

"You have killed me, and killed my family," one minder said after a photographer for The New York Times made unauthorized photographs of an exhibition of statues of the Iraqi dictator during a November visit to Baghdad's College of Fine Arts. In recent years, the inexorable nature of Iraq's horrors have been demonstrated by new campaigns bearing the special hallmark of Mr. Hussein. In 1999, a complaint about prison overcrowding led to an instruction from the Iraqi leader for a "prison cleansing" drive. This resulted, according to human rights groups, in hundreds, and possibly thousands, of executions.

Using a satanic arithmetic, prison governors worked out how many prisoners would have to be hanged to bring the numbers down to stipulated levels, even taking into account the time remaining in the inmates' sentences. As 20 and 30 prisoners at a time were executed at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere, warders trailed through cities like Baghdad, "selling" exemption from execution to shocked families, according to people in Iraq who said they had spoken to relatives of those involved. Bribes of money, furniture, cars and even property titles brought only temporary stays.

MORE recently, according to Iraqis who fled to Jordan and other neighboring countries, scores of women have been executed under a new twist in a "return to faith" campaign proclaimed by Mr. Hussein. Aimed at bolstering his support across the Islamic world, the campaign led early on to a ban on drinking alcohol in public. Then, some time in the last two years, it widened to include the public killing of accused prostitutes.

Often, the executions have been carried out by the Fedayeen Saddam, a paramilitary group headed by Mr. Hussein's oldest son, 38-year-old Uday. These men, masked and clad in black, make the women kneel in busy city squares, along crowded sidewalks, or in neighborhood plots, then behead them with swords. The families of some victims have claimed they were innocent of any crime save that of criticizing Mr. Hussein.

http://www.iraq.net/erica/news-e/archives/00001146.htm


45 posted on 06/12/2003 8:16:19 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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A bump and a ping
46 posted on 06/12/2003 8:18:26 AM PDT by leadpencil1
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Threat Gone, Iraqis Unearth Hussein's Nameless Victims

By IAN FISHER

BU GHRAIB, Iraq, April 24 — First the gravedigger found some teeth. "Please, just barely scrape the sand," Adel Rahaif Hani, whose brother, Satter, was arrested as a political prisoner in 1995, begged the digger. "I'm worried he's just below this layer."

Mr. Hani came to a cemetery here today, like dozens of other Iraqis, not with the name of his dead brother but with a number. Satter's number was 535. A cousin, Sagur, arrested at the same time, was 537.

These numbers were what was left of people convicted as enemies of Saddam Hussein and then made to disappear. Their graves were not dignified with names but with numbers painted on metal plates. The plates spread like rusty weeds, covering more and more feet of desert every year Mr. Hussein held power.

But now that he is gone, the families of the disappeared are finding the numbers, matching them to the metal plates and finally collecting their dead.

These were people executed — most by hanging in the fearsome Abu Ghraib prison a mile away — merely because the government considered them a threat. Many were Shiite Muslims more active in their religion than the Sunni-dominated government felt it could tolerate.

"This is all because of Saddam!" shrieked Ali Majid al-Shamali, in tears, as he waved his arms at the long rows of graves marked with metal signs, well over 1,000 of them. "My brother! My brother!"

He sat on the ground and stroked the dirt on the grave of his only brother, Walid, arrested in October, 1993. A man from another family at the graveyard tried to comfort him. "You lost only one person?" the man asked. "We lost eight here."

Two women in black wailed. Both men started to cry.

"Why these innocent people?" Mr. Shamali yelled. "Why?"

The thousands of Iraqis executed as political prisoners — more probably tens or hundreds of thousands — might have been unidentified forever, except that the Hussein government, which was as bureaucratically efficient as it was cruel, kept records of most everyone it killed. These were not available to ordinary Iraqis. But now a new organization, the Committee for Free Prisoners, says it has received millions of documents from the custodians of the nation's graveyards for executed political prisoners. The numbers are contained in these documents.

The head of the group, Ibrahim Raouf Idrisi, who says he spent 6 of his 35 years in prisons because he joined a Muslim party, has opened the records to family members to find what happened to their loved ones, and they are coming here every day.

Sitting today in the abandoned house in Baghdad of a Hussein general, whose rooms are now piled with fat green record books of torture and execution, Mr. Idrisi mused at the hundreds of millions of dollars Mr. Hussein spent jailing and killing his enemies. "If he had spent only half that money on the people, they would have loved him," he said. "He is a terrorist, the only terrorist in the universe."

The documents represent only a small part of what existed on cemeteries around Iraq, he said, before the government went on a spree of paper shredding in its last hours.

Much survived. Mr. Hani, for example, now has the death certificate of his brother, which states plainly that on Aug. 23, 1997 he was "executed by hanging."

A slightly broader picture of what happened has emerged from the chief gravedigger, just 21 years old. He is Muhammad Muslim Muhammad and he said he began digging graves here when he was 14 to fulfill his military service.

He said he received the bodies every Wednesday at about 11 a.m., after the weekly hangings at around 5 a.m. There were never fewer than nine bodies to bury. During one especially bad time in 2001, he said, the numbers rose. One day he buried 18 people. He said he had never told anyone the details of his job.

"I didn't open my mouth, or I would have ended up with these poor people here," he said.

The oldest graves in the cemetery, he said, date to 1983, four years after Mr. Hussein took power. The most recent, he said, was from six months ago, about the time that Mr. Hussein declared an amnesty for prisoners at Abu Ghraib as the threat of an attack by the United States rose.

He said he personally helped bury 700 people, but he has no idea how many bodies are in the cemetery, a walled-off part of the huge Islamic cemetery here. The area is sizable, measuring about 130 graves by 25 graves, which if full might hold more than 3,000 bodies.

Slowly, the area is emptying of corpses. In the two weeks since the government fell, the families have been coming, but they were not able to find their relatives until the documents were recovered. So far, Mr. Muhammad said, 80 bodies have been removed.

It is not easy, even for families who have the numbers. Today, a 40-year-old tailor named Hassan Jassim arrived with a scrap of paper scrawled with the number 849, which was supposed to mark the grave of his brother, Selim.

A student in the Hawsa, the Shiite religious school in Najaf, about 85 miles south of Baghdad, Selim was arrested in 1998 at the family's home in Baghdad. The military then destroyed the house.

What Mr. Jassim wanted was to provide his brother with a proper Islamic burial, in which the body is ritually washed and wrapped in white linen. But he could not find the grave: The numbers ran from 847 to 848, then skipped up to 853.

They decided to dig anyway. "Do you want me to dig up everything or just the head," the gravedigger asked. Mr. Jassim decided just to see the head, because he believed he could identify his brother by his two missing back teeth.

"There are so many graves that don't have numbers," he said. "We don't know what to do."

The dirt was dry and easily dug and soon the gravedigger held up a skull. "It's not him," Mr. Jassim said. "The teeth are complete."

At grave No. 444, a large family worked together to unearth Hamid Omran, who was 31 when he was arrested in 1994. As the family carefully lifted the bones onto fresh linen, his cousin, Farhan Jassim, 47, exploded in anger.

"I don't think there was a regime in the world that treated political prisoners the way Saddam did," he said. "You can't imagine such exaggerated injustice."

The jaw surfaced. Mr. Hussein, the cousin said, "hated every Iraqi. Believe me, he hated all Iraqis."

Then the family found the skull, which showed a crack in a temple. A guard kicked him when he was arrested, the family said.

Another cousin, Thaer Ghawi, 27, wept as he smoked a cigarette once the bones were out of the grave. "We are just people who opposed the regime," he said. "Why couldn't he just put political prisoners in prison?"

Mr. Hani, the man whose brother disappeared in 1995, spent three hours picking through the grave of his brother. It was laborious. After the teeth, a few small bones, perhaps from the feet or hands, were found. Finally, Mr. Hani had found enough to fill a small coffin. He did not find the skull.

"It is enough for me," he said as he loaded the coffin onto a truck. "I feel relieved. What worried me before was I didn't know if he was alive or dead. Now I know."


47 posted on 06/12/2003 8:22:52 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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WARNING: Graphic

http://www.indict.org.uk/targets.php

And now for Qusay's torture crimes:

"On that day which followed the visit of QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN to the prison, 180 prisoners were executed. The guards walked up and down the corridors calling out names. They took some prisoners from nearly every cell...when QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN visited a prison, mass executions would often follow and so we all realised what it meant when they began calling out the names of prisoners..."

"On several occasions I saw QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN walk along the row of cells, open the slot in the door and spray what I believe to be something like mustard gas into the cell...The bodies of the dead were bloated by the gas. They foamed at the mouth and were bleeding from the eyes...The prisoners were screaming. I remember one of them was only about twelve years old. I remember QUSAY shouting something like "Put this bastard in - he's a member of the [X] family'...The little boy was screaming. He was already bleeding from previous beatings. QUSAY killed him along with all the others...The little boy screamed out "I am sorry, I don't want to die, I want my father." QUSAY said, "Your father is in the cell next door", which was true. QUSAY then proceeded to spray him with gas and he died after about ten minutes of agony. We could hear them screaming... I estimate that QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN personally murdered between 1200-1300 people during this period."

"There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they were put in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food.... On one occasion, I saw QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN personally supervising these murders."

"QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN went into the torture room...screaming..."I'll put an end to you with my own hands"...[the prisoner] was brought back into the cell with his right foot covered in filthy bandages. It had been cut off during his torture...the amputation had been carried out with a power saw during his torture under the direct supervision of QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN...it had not been done cleanly and it had taken some time to cut the foot off."

173 posted on 04/17/2003 8:52 AM EDT by BagCamAddict


48 posted on 06/12/2003 8:24:04 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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Press "objectivity":

'Something of a Loose Cannon'
Time magazine has a fascinating story about Saddam Hussein's evil spawn, Uday and Qusay, which opens with this horrifying account:

At his first outing [after an assassination attempt] in 1998, at the posh Jadriyah Equestrian Club, [Uday] used high-powered binoculars to survey the crowd of friends and family from a platform high above the guests. He saw something he liked, recalls his former aide Adib Shabaan, who helped arrange the party. Uday tightened the focus on a pretty 14-year-old girl in a bright yellow dress sitting with her father, a former provincial governor, her mother and her younger brother and sister.

Uday's bodyguards picked up the signal and walked through the darkened room, flicking cigarette lighters as they approached the girl's table. Uday, then 33, flipped on his too, confirming they had identified the right one. When the girl left the table for the powder room, Uday's bodyguards approached her with a choice, says Shabaan, who was Uday's business manager. She could ascend the platform now and congratulate Uday on his recovery, or she could call him on his private phone that night. Flustered, she apologized and said her parents would allow neither. One of the guards replied, "This is the chance of your life" and promised she would receive diamonds and a car. "All you have to do is go up there for 10 minutes," he urged. When she demurred again, the bodyguards pursued Uday's backup plan. They maneuvered the girl in the direction of the parking lot, picked her up and carried her to the backseat of Uday's car, covering her mouth to muffle her screams.

After three days the girl was returned to her home, with a new dress, a new watch and a large sum of cash. Her parents had her tested for rape; the result was positive. According to Shabaan's account, Uday heard she had been tested and sent aides to the clinic, where they warned doctors not to report a rape. Furious, the father demanded to see Saddam himself. Rebuffed, he kept complaining publicly about what Uday had done. After three months, the President's son had had enough. He sent two guards to the man to insist that he drop the matter. Uday had another demand: that the ex-governor bring his daughter and her 12-year-old sister to his next party. "Your daughters will be my girlfriends, or I'll wipe you off the face of the earth." The man complied, surrendering both girls.

The Associated Press describes Uday as "known for being cruel and something of a loose cannon." And Hitler is said to have been a tad overbearing.

James Taranto - Opinion Journal


49 posted on 06/12/2003 8:27:07 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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50 posted on 06/12/2003 8:29:00 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("The American people are proud of you and God bless each of you." Rummy to troops in Iraq)
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