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PETITION: STOP PAYMENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY TO ILLEGAL ALIENS AND FOREIGN CITIZENS
Population Balance ^ | 6/11/03 | n.a.

Posted on 06/11/2003 8:06:08 AM PDT by Mark Felton

PETITION TO CONGRESS
to
STOP PAYMENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS
TO ILLEGAL ALIENS AND FOREIGN CITIZENS

WHEREAS the Bush Administration plans to give away at least 345 billion dollars of Social Security money...to be used to pay lifetime benefits to any Mexican citizen who has worked in the United States...legally or illegally, living in the United States or not...

Read and Sign the Petition Today!

 


!!!URGENT ALERT!!!
MORATORIUM BILL
INTRODUCED

— Great Opportunity to Reduce Numbers —


A superb bill, which would "effect a moratorium" on many categories of immigration and set strict limits on others, was introduced by House Immigration Caucus Chairman Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO).

H.R. 946 would reduce legal immigration from an average of over 1 million per year (1.5 million were admitted in 2001!) To about 300,000 per year for 5 years. Since the legal immigration flow is more than twice the estimated annual illegal immigration flow of 500,000, if passed this bill would reduce the total flow by about half.

This opportunity to push a moratorium bill is not to be missed because it addresses legal immigration across the board (and not just a few categories–an approach which plays right into the opposition's hands).

Pushing a moratorium is critical because it:

1. Increases the pressure to reduce all immigration numbers.

2. Increases the pressure on Congress to stop bad bills such as the proposed bill granting Social Security benefits to illegal aliens.

3. Helps resist illegal alien amnesty bills. Immigrant admissions of any kind serve as a magnet for more family members to come illegally.

4. Increases our National Security: Consider that the National Commission on Terrorism said, "The massive flows of people across U.S. borders make exclusion of all foreign terrorists impossible". (June 2000) Reducing numbers is essential to ensuring National Security.

5. Is another tool to stop the de facto "stealth" amnesty of illegals being pushed by the Bush administration and Mexican officials through the acceptance of matricula ID cards.

TO MAINTAIN MOMENTUM ON THIS BILL, IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE ACT NOW AND PUSH AN IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM AS OUR FIRST PRIORITY.


(Excerpt) Read more at balance.org ...


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KEYWORDS: immigration
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1 posted on 06/11/2003 8:06:08 AM PDT by Mark Felton
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To: Mark Felton
bump...thanks for the post.
2 posted on 06/11/2003 8:08:14 AM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: Mark Felton
Bttt
3 posted on 06/11/2003 8:09:01 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: Mark Felton
"TO ILLEGAL ALIENS AND FOREIGN CITIZENS"

This title must surely overstate what the petition contains. No one can reasonably intend to stop payments to foreign citizens who came here legally and paid into the Social Security System. Not only would that be unfair to them but the US is treaty-bound to not screw them, not to mention that foreign countries would retailiate against the numerous US citizens working overseas.
4 posted on 06/11/2003 8:12:59 AM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: John Beresford Tipton
bump
5 posted on 06/11/2003 8:14:31 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Mark Felton
WHEREAS the Bush Administration plans to give away at least 345 billion dollars of Social Security money...to be used to pay lifetime benefits to any Mexican citizen who has worked in the United States...legally or illegally, living in the United States or not...

President Bush is for this?????

6 posted on 06/11/2003 8:29:47 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: John Beresford Tipton
This title must surely overstate what the petition contains. No one can reasonably intend to stop payments to foreign citizens who came here legally and paid into the Social Security System. Not only would that be unfair to them but the US is treaty-bound to not screw them, not to mention that foreign countries would retailiate against the numerous US citizens working overseas.

The foreign, alien, non-citizen workers did not "pay into" the Social Security system. Yes, they paid what is called Payroll Taxes (FICA, etc). They did not pay into a pension. Payroll Taxes are immediately spent by the current recipients of Social Security and Medicare. You do not pay into a system and carry an account. When you go on Social Security you are receiving the Payroll Taxes confiscated from the paychecks of the current workforce. Paying payroll taxes DOES NOT entitle you to later receive a portion of the taxes collected from the workforce.

If I worked a few years in France and returned to the USA I would not expect to receive any benefits of their socialist system when I hit 65 decades later.

7 posted on 06/11/2003 8:40:32 AM PDT by Spiff (Liberalism is a mental illness - a precursor disease to terminal Socialism.)
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To: Mark Felton
What part of the word "illegal" is not understood?
8 posted on 06/11/2003 8:42:22 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: joesnuffy
"President Bush is for this?????"

Yes, it was one item of discussion with Fox many months ago. There was initially a firestorm from conservatives but Bush is unmoved and is waiting for things to cool off before proceeding.

9 posted on 06/11/2003 8:54:39 AM PDT by Mark Felton (Principles have no real force except when one is well-fed. - Mark Twain)
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To: John Beresford Tipton

US citizens that work in foreign countries must pay the taxes of that country without receving the welfare benefits of citizenship.

10 posted on 06/11/2003 8:56:50 AM PDT by Mark Felton (Principles have no real force except when one is well-fed. - Mark Twain)
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To: Mark Felton
My name, address and comment has been sent to this poll.

God help our state if this treason continues!!

g in Arizona

11 posted on 06/11/2003 9:28:08 AM PDT by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: Geezerette
I said "poll"... I meant "Petition"! Sorry!

g

12 posted on 06/11/2003 9:32:45 AM PDT by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: Mark Felton
Bump!!!!!!!!
13 posted on 06/11/2003 9:33:43 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Mark Felton
Petition signed.
14 posted on 06/11/2003 9:35:28 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: John Beresford Tipton
This title must surely overstate what the petition contains.

No it does not. If you prefer a more credible source, how about Fox News: "The Bush administration has reportedly completed a draft of a treaty between the U.S. and Mexico that will give the Mexican government at least $345 billion in Social Security payments for Mexicans who have worked in the U.S. legally and illegally."

Of course, it's no secret that this administration has been all but encouraging illegal immigration from Mexico. This is one area that has exposed the administration's outright lying, as when Ashcroft claimed the power to indefinitely detain illegal Haitian immigrants who themselves do not pose a threat to national security, for the supposed reason of discouraging illegal immigration. Here they are encouraging it on one end, and then using the problem they create as an excuse for a power grab.

15 posted on 06/11/2003 9:38:07 AM PDT by inquest
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To: John Beresford Tipton
Not only would that be unfair to them

This country has been raped by millions of illegal aliens. Frankly, I don't give a damn what's unfair anymore. They have no respect for our laws, they have invaded our country. The American people have been brutalized by this epic attack on our sovereignty.

16 posted on 06/11/2003 9:42:59 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I was referring to foreign nationals, legally here in conformance with our laws, who had made contributions to the Social Security system.
18 posted on 06/11/2003 10:02:41 AM PDT by John Beresford Tipton
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To: John Beresford Tipton
Can I be truthful here?

I am sick of foreign nationals. I don't give a damn where they are from. Too many Americans are out of work, the economy is in a ditch, and with the amount of people outside this country that hate our guts, we ought to reform our legal immigration policies immediately!!!!

Enough of this immigration insanity!

19 posted on 06/11/2003 10:07:27 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Recall Gray Davis, position his smoking chair over a trap door, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Spiff
The foreign, alien, non-citizen workers did not "pay into" the Social Security system. Yes, they paid what is called Payroll Taxes (FICA, etc). They did not pay into a pension. Payroll Taxes are immediately spent by the current recipients of Social Security and Medicare. You do not pay into a system and carry an account. When you go on Social Security you are receiving the Payroll Taxes confiscated from the paychecks of the current workforce. Paying payroll taxes DOES NOT entitle you to later receive a portion of the taxes collected from the workforce.

Are you sure about that ? I am a foreign national working in USA, I get a Statement of Benefit from Social Security every year. I have a social security number and the benefit sheet lists the benefits that I will get when I retire.

20 posted on 06/11/2003 12:26:01 PM PDT by BRITinUSA
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