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Why Clinton KoolAid Drinkers Will Never Admit that He Is a Vicious Rapist
dfu commentary | 6-11-03 | dfu

Posted on 06/11/2003 6:38:27 PM PDT by doug from upland

For those who have paid attention, it is obvious that Juanita Broaddrick is a compelling witness. She lived a nightmare that she always wanted to be private but that became public.

Juanita never wanted to testify. That is why she made the initial mistake of signing an affidavit that came from Bruce Lindsey, who was quite a behind the scenes fixer and apparently also an affidavit mill. Talk about a lowlife with no conscience.

When she had to testify under oath, Juanita told the truth as she lived it. She came forward reluctantly. She had government contracts that could be in jeopardy. She saw what happened to those who were a threat to the Clintons. She has not written a book or taken money for her story. She was threatened by Hillary shortly after the rape. Coming forward had no upside for her. She would have to be embarrassed in public and relive the atrocity she suffered at the hands of the attorney general of Arkansas.

To believe Bill Clinton, you must believe that everyone else has been telling lies -- Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, L.D. Brown, Roger Perry, Larry Patterson, Gary Parks, Mrs. Parks, Gary Aldrich, Gennifer Flowers, Gary Johnson, Sally Purdue, deceased Jim McDougal, Bobbie Ann Williams, Sharlene Wilson, Linda Tripp and perhaps even Josh Steiner's diary. Everybody is lying, and the Clintons are telling the truth.

It is very clear why those who believe all things Clinton can never accept that their hero is a vicious rapist. To accept that is to accept the fact that the dreaded right wing has been telling the truth.

Yes, Foster's body was moved to that park. Yes, there were hundreds of affairs. Yes, he gave jobs in exchange for sex. Yes, he used government vehicles and troopers on overtime pay to procure women. Yes, there were incriminating documents taken from Vince's office. Yes, they ripped off Madison Guaranty. Yes, Hillary has been complicit in everything. Yes, he really had a cocaine problem. Yes, he knew Barry Seal was bringing in large shipments of cocaine to Mena. Yes, they committed fraud with an SBA loan. Yes, that was really Flowers and Bill on a non-doctored tape with him telling her to deny everything. Yes, Hillary hid billing records that were under subpoena. Yes, matching federal funds were used to hire thugs to threaten witnesses. Yes, Kathleen Willey's children were threatened. Yes, Hillary really did misuse FBI files. Yes, the president really did use his office and power to try to fix a federal sexual harassment lawsuit and deny a lowly employee her day in court. Yes, he got thrown out of Oxford and England for sexually assaulting Eileen Wellstone. Yes, he took a 900K bribe from Bernie Schwartz to keep Bernie out of prison. Etc., etc., etc.

Once the floodgate is opened, the Clintonistas drown in a sea of lies. What kind of conscience does a rapist have? What kind of conscience does his partner have who protected him and attacked the victims? They will stop at nothing to protect themselves. Lies and coverup are piled upon lies and coverup.

That is the Broaddrick problem and why supporters can never admit it. Their world falls apart. Everything they believed in about Bill and Hillary will have been shown to be a lie. And they will all look like fools and suckers. It is very difficult for a human being to admit he has been a sucker. They must keep lying to themselves and attack those of us who have tried to bring forward the truth about the Clintons for several years.


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To: aristeides
Some people want to know the truth, and some people have a set of "beliefs" that they want to continue to believe in no matter what. The second group have to wear a mind-filter to block out anything which disagrees with their avowed belief system.
I come from an ULTRA liberal family and I have heard them in action. As Michael Savage says, liberalism is a mental illness.
41 posted on 06/11/2003 9:12:03 PM PDT by First Amendment
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To: Agape
The grandma hit by the drunk holds water.
43 posted on 06/11/2003 9:39:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (Martha is indicted and the Clintons still walk free.........what a country)
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To: doug from upland
Rapist remain rapist until they are jailed or die. They are like child molesters, they can not stop. It is not about sex it is about POWER. That is why they rape, it is POWER over women
44 posted on 06/11/2003 9:44:32 PM PDT by cpdiii (RPH & oil field trash and proud of it)
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To: doug from upland
It is very difficult for a human being to admit he has been a sucker. They must keep lying to themselves and attack those of us who have tried to bring forward the truth about the Clintons for several years.

I've been feeling a little let down by President Bush lately because of some of his handling on certain matters--especially on Israel as of late. I can't imagine what it would be like to admit that the guy I voted for and supported turned out to be a rapist. Back to Juanita's story specifically. I believed her after seeing her demeanor and hearing her story during the NBC interview and I believe her now. I believe Kathleen Willey and I believe Paula Jones. We had one sick, sick couple in the Whitehouse for 8 years and it's a very scary thought that the devil's spawn may have a very good shot at it in 2008.

45 posted on 06/11/2003 9:50:17 PM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: TomGuy
Devoted followers who will do and say anything for their "leader"
46 posted on 06/11/2003 9:52:43 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: Jerez2
Tell Sean Hannity that scheduling the Juanita interview opposite to Hillary's on Larry King was a stroke of genius!

I agree--I take back some of the mean things I've said about Sean.

47 posted on 06/11/2003 9:55:20 PM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: doug from upland
You would think an English tabloid (mainstream paper over there) would have hunted her down by now. However, if she got dough to tell her story wouldn't that make her less credible? I wish she would just come out and tell it like Juanita did.
48 posted on 06/11/2003 9:59:29 PM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: Agape
I don't think she's risking much coming out with her story now

The clintons are as mean as badgers on meth and keep lists, just so they don't forget some slight.

As Web said, "I will just have to roll over once more".

49 posted on 06/11/2003 10:03:39 PM PDT by razorback-bert (White Devils for Al-Sharpton 2004... Texas Chapter)
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To: B.O. Plenty
It is scary to think about--Bill will probably live to be 105! I, too, have wished for them to go up in a rickety old plane but my scenario also included an icestorm. However, if they did meet an untimely demise, we'd have to hear the media boo hoo about them for the next 105 years. I don't know which would be worse--alive and dealing with their evilness on a daily basis or dead and dealing with their martyrdom on a daily basis.
50 posted on 06/11/2003 10:06:34 PM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: doug from upland
Who's the guy that does all the posts from the British papers--MadIvan, is it? Maybe he knows something.
51 posted on 06/11/2003 10:10:48 PM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: beaversmom
I've pinged him before but he hasn't responded.
52 posted on 06/11/2003 10:17:19 PM PDT by doug from upland (Martha is indicted and the Clintons still walk free.........what a country)
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To: doug from upland
I'm sure a lot of you have seen this, but this is something I located on a search at Google:

All the President's victims III: More on Bill Clinton's long and growing history of sexual violence against women

See more of Bill's women, click this picture for more!
Juanita Broaddrick, right, with residents of her Arkansas retirement home and Bill Clinton in April 1978, the same month she alleges that Clinton assaulted her. (Broaddrick family photo)

(EDITOR'S NOTE: Capitol Hill Blue first published an account of more than a dozen women who have reported being either assaulted or raped by Bill Clinton over the last 30 years. Since that story was first published, Juanita Broaddrick, one of the women mentioned in this story, has gone public with an interview and other victims have given us permission to use their names. The updated story appears below)

By Daniel J. Harris
& Teresa Hampton
Capitol Hill Blue

Juanita Broaddrick's terrifying story of a violent rape by Bill Clinton is only one of more than dozen cases of sexual assualt by the President that go back 30 years.

Capitol Hill Blue has confirmed that the charge is but one of many allegations of sexual assault by the President.

Candidate Clinton groping a willing flight attendant on his campaign plane in 1992. Another attendant said he made unwanted advances to her.

A continuing investigation into the President's questionable sexual history reveal incidents that go back as far as Clinton's college days, with more than a dozen women claiming his sexual appetites leave little room for the word ''no.''

Juanita Broaddrick, an Arkansas woman who worked on Bill Clinton's campaign when he was attorney general, told NBC's Lisa Meyers two weeks ago she was raped by Clinton. NBC, shelved the interview, but finally aired it Wednesday night. The White House also threatened Fox News after it reported the story. Broaddrick finally took her story to The Wall Street Journal, which published her account of the brutal rape at the hands of the future President.

But Broaddrick's story is only one account of many sexual assaults by Clinton. Among the other incidents:

* A 1969 charge by a Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford University campus where the future President was a student. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed this week that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;
* In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, who was a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further;
* In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law professor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him and she left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas last week, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go public with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;
* Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick required treatment for a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape;
* From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor reported seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?";
* Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room."
* Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.
* Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with a cash payment.
* Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.
* Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.
* Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.

In an interview with Capitol Hill Blue, the retired State Department employee said he believed the story Miss Wellstone, the young English woman who said Clinton raped her in 1969.

''There was no doubt in my mind that this young woman had suffered severe emotional trauma,'' he said. ''But we were under tremendous pressure to avoid the embarrassment of having a Rhodes Scholar charged with rape. I filed a report with my superiors and that was the last I heard of it.''

Miss Wellstone, who is now married and lives near London, confirmed the incident when contacted this week, but refused to discuss the matter further. She said she would not go public with further details of the attack.

In his book, Unlimited Access, former FBI agent Gary Aldrich reported that Clinton left Oxford University for a "European Tour" in 1969 and was told by University officials that he was no longer welcome there. Aldrich said Clinton's academic record at Oxford was lackluster. Clinton later accepted a scholarship for Yale Law School and did not complete his studies at Oxford.

The State Department official who investigated the incident said Clinton's interests appeared to be drinking, drugs and sex, not studies.

"I came away from the incident with the clear impression that this was a young man who was there to party, not study," he said.

Oxford officials, contacted last week, refused comment. The State Department also refused to comment on the incident.

Capitol Hill Blue also spoke with the former Miss James, the Washington fundraiser who confirmed the encounter with Clinton at the Four Seasons Hotel in Washington, but first said she would not appear publicly because anyone who does so is destroyed by the Clinton White House.

''My husband and children deserve better than that,'' she said when first contacted two weeks ago. After reading the Broaddrick story Friday, however, she called back and gave permission to use her maiden name, but said she had no intention of pursuing the matter.

"I wasn't raped, but I was trapped in a hotel room for a brief moment by a boorish man," she said. "I got away. He tried calling me several times after that, but I didn't take his phone calls. Then he stopped. I guess he moved on."

The former Miss Moffet, the legal secretary who says Clinton tried to force her into oral sex in 1979, has since married and left the state. She says that when she told her boyfriend, who was a lawyer and supporter of Clinton, about the incident, he told her to keep her mouth shut.

"He said that people who crossed the governor usually regretted it and that if I knew what was good for me I'd forget that it ever happened," she said. "I haven't forgotten it. You don't forget crude men like that."

The other encounters were confirmed with more than 30 interviews with retired Arkansas state employees, former state troopers and former Yale and University of Arkansas students. Like others, they refused to go public because of fears of retaliation from the Clinton White House.

Likewise, the mainstream media has shied away from the Broaddrick story. Initially, only The Drudge Report and other Internet news sites have actively pursued it.

The White House did not return calls for comment. White House attorney David Kendall has issued a public denial of the Broaddrick rape.

Copyright 1999. Capitol Web Publishing

Capitol Hill Blue

53 posted on 06/11/2003 10:25:16 PM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: Agape
As much as I dislike Clinton, the logic in some of those arguments doesn't completely gel...first of all, I don't think she's risking much coming out with her story now (or then, in the NBC dateline show). Back then, the "Impeach Clinton" bandwagon was going fairly strong, so there was no shortage of people who would've given her support (moral, financial, whatever).

Are you denying that the Clintons have a history of retaliation against those who get in their way? What support did Juanita receive that could match the power of the Clintons?

And of course, it's no danger to come out now since the Clintons have no real power.

Certainly less dangerous now than in early 1999.

Also, it's not fair to say that if we think Juanita is a liar, we think Gennifer, Linda Tripp, etc. etc. are all liars too. To my knowledge, they did not accuse Clinton of rape. It would be like saying, well, there are a lot of people who can attest to George W. being a wild drunk in his college days. If you don't believe my story that he killed my grandma in a drunk hit and run accident, then you must think all those other people to be liars.

Juanita has been interviewed and her story extensively investigated by a wide cross section including Lisa Meyers and NBC, Impeachment investigators, and Fox News.

Most have said she is absolutely credible. Not one of them will say they believe Clinton (except Estrich).

54 posted on 06/11/2003 10:38:11 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: doug from upland
And they will all look like fools and suckers

There it is, it is all said in that simple declarative sentence.

Thanks.

55 posted on 06/11/2003 10:44:30 PM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: Agape
"Bill likes to have lots of sex--therefore he is more likely to rape people". -------- I never said that. To the contrary, Clinton defenders claim he can get all the women he wants so he doesn't have to rape. Getting all the women he wants doesn't mean that the sick bastard won't take those who want nothing to do with him.

Sorry, I was just poking fun at you with the drunk and grandma thing. The analogy, you must admit, was just silly.

57 posted on 06/11/2003 11:06:11 PM PDT by doug from upland (Martha is indicted and the Clintons still walk free.........what a country)
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To: doug from upland
Rape has little to do with a desire for sex, rape is about power...always about power.

JB
58 posted on 06/11/2003 11:10:06 PM PDT by Jackson Brown
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To: beaversmom
Yes, CAPITOL HILL BLUE did a great investigative report. To bad we didn't see a parade of those women in front of the Senate on live television. Remember, scumbag testified that he never sexually harassed a woman. I think I'd call that perjury. Imagine a parade of women contradicting his testimony.
59 posted on 06/11/2003 11:13:41 PM PDT by doug from upland (Martha is indicted and the Clintons still walk free.........what a country)
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To: Jackson Brown
Yes, it is about power but it is also about sex. Without a sex drive, there would not be rape. A man would simply beat her up.
60 posted on 06/11/2003 11:15:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (Martha is indicted and the Clintons still walk free.........what a country)
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