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Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)
Metrowest Daily ^ | 6/13/03 | Beecher

Posted on 06/13/2003 12:26:29 PM PDT by pabianice

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do!"

WALTHAM, MA -- A legal battle over two home-schooled children exploded into a seven-hour standoff yesterday, when they refused to take a standardized test ordered by the Department of Social Services.

George Nicholas Bryant, 15, and Nyssa Bryant, 13, stood behind their parents, Kim and George, as police and DSS workers attempted to collect the children at 7:45 a.m. DSS demanded that the two complete a test to determine their educational level.

After a court order was issued by Framingham Juvenile Court around 1 p.m., the children were driven by their parents to a Waltham hotel.

Again, they refused to take the test.

"The court order said that the children must be here. It said nothing about taking the test," said George Bryant.

The second refusal came after an emotion-filled morning for the family, when DSS workers sternly demanded the Bryants comply with their orders.

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."

Four police officers were also at the scene and attempted to coax the Bryants to listen to the DSS worker.

"We are simply here to prevent a breach of the peace," said Waltham Youth Officer Detective James Auld. "We will will not physically remove the children."

Yesterday's events are the continuation of a six-year legal battle between the family and Waltham Public Schools and the state.

The Bryants contend that the city and state do not have the legal right to force their children to take standardized tests, even though DSS workers have threatened to take their children from them.

"There have been threats all along. Most families fall to that bullying by the state and the legal system," said George Bryant.

"But this has been a six-year battle between the Waltham Public Schools and our family over who is in control of the education of our children," Bryant continued. "In the end the law of this state will protect us."

The Bryant children have never attended public school.

Both sides agree that the children are in no way abused mentally, physically, sexually or emotionally, but legal custody of the children was taken from Kim and George Bryant in December 2001. The children will remain under the legal custody of DSS until their 16th birthdays.

The parents have been ruled as unfit because they did not file educational plans or determine a grading system for the children, two criteria of Waltham Public School's home schooling policy.

"We do not believe in assessing our children based on a number or letter. Their education process is their personal intellectual property," said Bryant.

George Bryant said he was arrested six years ago, after not attending a meeting that the city contends he was summoned to. The meeting was called by the Waltham School Department for his failure to send his children to school.

"We want these issues aired in the open, in public. The school system and DSS have fought to keep this behind closed doors," said Bryant.

Superintendent of Schools Susan Parrella said she was unaware of yesterday's incident and that, currently the school department approves of the education plan filed by DSS for the Bryant children.

"An acceptable home school plan is in place right now," said Parrella. "I was not aware of any testing occurring today."

The Bryant children freely admit that they have no intention of taking a test.

"We don't want to take the test. We have taken them before and I don't think they are a fair assessment of what we know," said Nyssa Bryant. "And no one from DSS has ever asked us what we think."

Kenneth Pontes, area director of DSS, denied that workers have never talked to the children privately, but admitted that this type of case isn't often seen by his office.

"This is an unusual case. Different school systems require different regulations for home-schooled children. Waltham requires testing," said Pontes.

Pontes said that a possibility exists that the children will be removed from their home, but that was a last course of action.

"No one wants these children to be put in foster homes. The best course of action would for (the Bryants) to instruct the children to take the test," said Etscovitz.

The Bryant family is due in Framingham District Court this morning, to go before a juvenile court judge. According to DSS, this session will determine what their next course of action will be and if the children will be removed from the Bryants' home.

"These are our children and they have and always will be willing participants in their education," said Kim Bryant.


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The Liberals will never, ever give up trying to keep your kids in the public school cesspool (they send their own kids to private school... hello, Ted Kennedy? Hello, John Kerry?...)
1 posted on 06/13/2003 12:26:30 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
H O W T O C O N T A C T U S

Massachusetts Department of Social Services

Central Office

24 Farnsworth Street

Boston, Massachusetts 02210

(617) 748-2000

Harry Spence, Commissioner

The Department of Social Services (DSS) has 29 Area Offices across Massachusetts.

2 posted on 06/13/2003 12:30:14 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."

Both sides agree that the children are in no way abused mentally, physically, sexually or emotionally, but legal custody of the children was taken from Kim and George Bryant in December 2001. The children will remain under the legal custody of DSS until their 16th birthdays.

The parents have been ruled as unfit because they did not file educational plans or determine a grading system for the children, two criteria of Waltham Public School's home schooling policy.

This is tyranny!

4 posted on 06/13/2003 12:32:35 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Professional FReeper. Do not attempt.)
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To: pabianice
When an opponent declares, 'I will not come over to your side, 'I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already...What are you? You will pass on. Your decendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing but this new community.

- Adolf Hitler
5 posted on 06/13/2003 12:33:30 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Professional FReeper. Do not attempt.)
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Just one of the numerous reasons I permanently moved out of the People's Socialist RepubliK of Taxachusetts.

American liberty might have been born there, but now the only place you'll see it in Mass is under a glass in a museum.

6 posted on 06/13/2003 12:35:38 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: pabianice; Amelia; ianincali; FLAMING DEATH; Lady Eileen; ReagansShinyHair; No More Gore Anymore; ..
Ping
7 posted on 06/13/2003 12:36:39 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Professional FReeper. Do not attempt.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
My thoughts EXACTLY.
8 posted on 06/13/2003 12:37:36 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: pabianice
"We do not believe in assessing our children based on a number or letter. Their education process is their personal intellectual property," said Bryant.

Sounds like a nutcase to me. Why wouldn't a homeschooling parent test their kids? Something fishy going on here. Just what is it that these kids KNOW that can't be measured by a test? Furthermore, why should these kids be excemt from testing? Why must they be the exception to the rule?

9 posted on 06/13/2003 12:37:56 PM PDT by nmh
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To: pabianice
Both sides agree that the children are in no way abused mentally, physically, sexually or emotionally, but legal custody of the children was taken from Kim and George Bryant in December 2001.

Now that the State has custody, I would expect the mental, physical, sexual, and emotion abuse to begin real soon. It's for the Children.

10 posted on 06/13/2003 12:39:49 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: pabianice
Reading this has made me so angry my heart is pounding.
11 posted on 06/13/2003 12:39:51 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: nmh
If you think the state has a right to know what is going on in your kids head, then you have succombed to the mind-numbing of the left.

It is one thing to willingly choose to have the state look after your kids' education.

It is true tyranny for the state to demand such control.
12 posted on 06/13/2003 12:40:40 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: pabianice
We have legal custody of the children

The state has custody of all children in the Fourier commune of Mass. Why don't they simply remove all children at birth and take them to the state nursery?

14 posted on 06/13/2003 12:41:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: nmh
why should these kids be excemt from testing?

Yeah!! Standardized tests might help them learn to spell! What do you think?

Seriously, the parents are fighting for a principle. By what law does the State have final say over the education of children? Don't the parents matter?

15 posted on 06/13/2003 12:41:48 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: nmh
These folks sure do look like nutballs.


16 posted on 06/13/2003 12:42:02 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: nmh
Why must they be the exception to the rule?

Because the Stat has no place demanding testing on free citizens. The rule must be abolished.

It is a little thing we call self determination, a Liberty thing.

17 posted on 06/13/2003 12:42:04 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Professional FReeper. Do not attempt.)
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To: pabianice
George Bryant said he was arrested six years ago, after not attending a meeting that the city contends he was summoned to.

OK let me get this straight, we're arresting people for such high crimes as missing meetings.

WTF?!

>8/

18 posted on 06/13/2003 12:42:10 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: nmh
Why must they be stamped out copies of what some bugeyed socialist monster says they should be?

This is Massachusetts, land of middle school fistf**king classes.

The question is, what the heck are they doing living in that cesspool?
19 posted on 06/13/2003 12:44:09 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: AAABEST
city contends he was summoned to

He was summoned by the CITY and the School!

King George....is that you?

20 posted on 06/13/2003 12:45:11 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Professional FReeper. Do not attempt.)
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