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Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)
Metrowest Daily ^ | 6/13/03 | Beecher

Posted on 06/13/2003 12:26:29 PM PDT by pabianice

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do!"

WALTHAM, MA -- A legal battle over two home-schooled children exploded into a seven-hour standoff yesterday, when they refused to take a standardized test ordered by the Department of Social Services.

George Nicholas Bryant, 15, and Nyssa Bryant, 13, stood behind their parents, Kim and George, as police and DSS workers attempted to collect the children at 7:45 a.m. DSS demanded that the two complete a test to determine their educational level.

After a court order was issued by Framingham Juvenile Court around 1 p.m., the children were driven by their parents to a Waltham hotel.

Again, they refused to take the test.

"The court order said that the children must be here. It said nothing about taking the test," said George Bryant.

The second refusal came after an emotion-filled morning for the family, when DSS workers sternly demanded the Bryants comply with their orders.

"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."

Four police officers were also at the scene and attempted to coax the Bryants to listen to the DSS worker.

"We are simply here to prevent a breach of the peace," said Waltham Youth Officer Detective James Auld. "We will will not physically remove the children."

Yesterday's events are the continuation of a six-year legal battle between the family and Waltham Public Schools and the state.

The Bryants contend that the city and state do not have the legal right to force their children to take standardized tests, even though DSS workers have threatened to take their children from them.

"There have been threats all along. Most families fall to that bullying by the state and the legal system," said George Bryant.

"But this has been a six-year battle between the Waltham Public Schools and our family over who is in control of the education of our children," Bryant continued. "In the end the law of this state will protect us."

The Bryant children have never attended public school.

Both sides agree that the children are in no way abused mentally, physically, sexually or emotionally, but legal custody of the children was taken from Kim and George Bryant in December 2001. The children will remain under the legal custody of DSS until their 16th birthdays.

The parents have been ruled as unfit because they did not file educational plans or determine a grading system for the children, two criteria of Waltham Public School's home schooling policy.

"We do not believe in assessing our children based on a number or letter. Their education process is their personal intellectual property," said Bryant.

George Bryant said he was arrested six years ago, after not attending a meeting that the city contends he was summoned to. The meeting was called by the Waltham School Department for his failure to send his children to school.

"We want these issues aired in the open, in public. The school system and DSS have fought to keep this behind closed doors," said Bryant.

Superintendent of Schools Susan Parrella said she was unaware of yesterday's incident and that, currently the school department approves of the education plan filed by DSS for the Bryant children.

"An acceptable home school plan is in place right now," said Parrella. "I was not aware of any testing occurring today."

The Bryant children freely admit that they have no intention of taking a test.

"We don't want to take the test. We have taken them before and I don't think they are a fair assessment of what we know," said Nyssa Bryant. "And no one from DSS has ever asked us what we think."

Kenneth Pontes, area director of DSS, denied that workers have never talked to the children privately, but admitted that this type of case isn't often seen by his office.

"This is an unusual case. Different school systems require different regulations for home-schooled children. Waltham requires testing," said Pontes.

Pontes said that a possibility exists that the children will be removed from their home, but that was a last course of action.

"No one wants these children to be put in foster homes. The best course of action would for (the Bryants) to instruct the children to take the test," said Etscovitz.

The Bryant family is due in Framingham District Court this morning, to go before a juvenile court judge. According to DSS, this session will determine what their next course of action will be and if the children will be removed from the Bryants' home.

"These are our children and they have and always will be willing participants in their education," said Kim Bryant.


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To: Dan from Michigan; All
I've had twenty years (my whole life) of experience dealing with DSS (or CPS). I've seen it all.

The entire system needs to be figuratively nuked and built from scratch.

I can't even begin to express the digust I feel for this particular governmental agency. It is, in my opinion, the worst of the worse.

Statist and socialistic doesn't even begin. Try liars and hypocrites, too...among other things. One day, when I can do so without giving myself an ulcer, I'll write about my experiences. At this point it would burn up the screen.
181 posted on 06/13/2003 3:39:27 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Where are my anti-anxiety pills?!)
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To: Lady Eileen
Or just skip right to the State Hatchery.
182 posted on 06/13/2003 3:42:11 PM PDT by RightWhale (gazing at shadows)
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To: pabianice
I said it before and I will say it again. We MUST imprison the control-freaks or the control-freak will imprison US.
183 posted on 06/13/2003 3:42:27 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: CyberCowboy777
I'd say the blindfolds need to come down. Children are being hurt in this darkness.

Here Here!

184 posted on 06/13/2003 3:43:49 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: pabianice
"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."

Bullshit!

185 posted on 06/13/2003 3:44:05 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Where are my anti-anxiety pills?!)
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To: SoulStorms
It's not worth it to die on that hill.

Ok then.. what WOULD you die for?

186 posted on 06/13/2003 3:44:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones)
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To: agrace
LOL! I don't even think it was submitted the "first" time around. But, with the threats of my parents and the fear of God, I took the SAT once again and scored a 1241. Then I was a college dropout! :-)
187 posted on 06/13/2003 3:47:53 PM PDT by spokanite
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To: freeeee
OMG!!! Is that a PITBULL in that picture???

Not a pitbull - looks more like the dog in "My Three Sons".


188 posted on 06/13/2003 3:49:41 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Tax-chick
It looks kind of fluffy for a pit bull ... some kind of spaniel or pointer mix?

Great minds think alike. See my post above ;-).

189 posted on 06/13/2003 3:50:54 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I'm not a dog expert, but that animal has a lick-you-to-death look.
190 posted on 06/13/2003 3:53:39 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You can't tell from his pictures how short he really is.)
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To: dead
nmh: Just what is it that these kids KNOW that can't be measured by a test?

dead: Perhaps they’ve been taught proper disdain for communism and tyranny.

Good answer.

191 posted on 06/13/2003 3:53:57 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: Tax-chick
My dad used to call our dog "vicious beast" in jest. She was so friendly she'd follow just about anybody who came to our house out the door. :-) And yes, she'd lick you all the time if you'd let her.
192 posted on 06/13/2003 3:56:10 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Tax-chick
They should train the dog to be a little more aggressive -- to bite officious, arrogant government-lackey social workers on the @$$. This family really should get a nasty pitbull.

193 posted on 06/13/2003 3:58:03 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: Tax-chick
Oh...... and one more thing. When our dog would do something bad, my dad would talk to her in a gruff voice and threaten to turn her into "roast beast" (i.e. line from The Grinch Who Stole Christmas).
194 posted on 06/13/2003 4:01:03 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: jgrubbs
I may call the HSLDA about this one.

Did you call HSLDA yet?

195 posted on 06/13/2003 4:01:53 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: pabianice
"We have legal custody of the children and we will do with them as we see fit," DSS worker Susan Etscovitz told the Bryants in their Gale Street home. "They are minors and they do what we tell them to do."


197 posted on 06/13/2003 4:03:29 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Thud
The cost of filing the papers? Less than $100...

The effect of four hundred of these being filed in various state across the continent? priceless...
198 posted on 06/13/2003 4:03:50 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (What price treason?)
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To: Sloth
The problem is "free" Federal money going to the states for education. We should halt all money going from the US government to the states for education. Then these state confiscations of children for the bounty money will stop.

Why should the Feds take money from the residents of the states so they can send it to the states to "educate" their citizens?

If it COST the states to educate their populace, they might allow parents to actually teach their children.
199 posted on 06/13/2003 4:07:22 PM PDT by gitmo (Maybe we should just take "The United States of" out of the nation's name.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Okay, my instructions to the DSS busybody would be this, "I will not discuss the matter with you nor anyone you bring. Please leave my property or I will ask these nice officers to arrest you for trespassing. Good bye and good riddance."

In NC, that would cost you your kids.
200 posted on 06/13/2003 4:09:06 PM PDT by gitmo (Maybe we should just take "The United States of" out of the nation's name.)
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