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Yes, They Were Guilty. But of What Exactly? [NYT FINALLY admits Rosenbergs were guilty!]
NY Times ^ | June 15, 2003 | SAM ROBERTS

Posted on 06/15/2003 6:43:14 AM PDT by Pharmboy


Robert, left, and Michael Rosenberg in June 1953.

Fifty years ago Thursday, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed in the electric chair at Sing Sing. Their execution, originally set for 11 p.m. on Friday, June 19, 1953, was rescheduled for 8 p.m. to avoid conflict with the Jewish sabbath.

"They were to be killed more quickly than planned," the playwright Arthur Miller wrote, "to avoid any shadow of bad taste."

A shadow lingers.

"I grew up believing Ethel and Julius were completely innocent," Robert Meeropol, who was 6 years old in 1953, says of the Rosenbergs, his parents. "By the time I completed law school in 1985, however, I realized that the evidence we had amassed did not actually prove my parents' innocence but rather only demonstrated that they had been framed."

After digesting newly released American decryptions of Soviet cables a decade later, Mr. Meeropol came to a revised conclusion. "While the transcriptions seemed inconclusive, they forced me to accept the possibility that my father had participated in an illegal and covert effort to help the Soviet Union defeat the Nazis," he writes in his new memoir, "An Execution in the Family: One Son's Journey" (St. Martin's Press).

Of course, the Rosenbergs weren't executed for helping the Soviets defeat the Nazis, but as atom spies for helping Stalin end America's brief nuclear monopoly. They weren't charged with treason (the Russians were technically an ally in the mid-1940's) or even with actual spying. Rather, they were accused of conspiracy to commit espionage — including enlisting Ethel's brother, David Greenglass, through his wife, Ruth, to steal atomic secrets from the Los Alamos weapons laboratory where he was stationed as an Army machinist during World War II. Mr. Greenglass's chief contribution was to corroborate what the Soviets had already gleaned from other spies, which by 1949 enabled them to replicate the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. (He confessed, testified against his sister and brother-in-law and was imprisoned for 10 years; Ruth testified, too, and was spared prosecution.)

As leverage against Julius, Ethel was also indicted on what, in retrospect, appears to have been flimsy evidence. The government didn't have to prove that anything of value was delivered to the Soviets, only that the participants acted to advance their goal.

"When you're dealing with a conspiracy, you don't have to be the kingpin, you have to participate," says James Kilsheimer, who helped prosecute the Rosenbergs. "You can't be partially guilty any more than you can be partially pregnant."

But to justify the death penalty, which was invoked to press the Rosenbergs to confess and implicate others, the government left the impression that the couple had handed America's mightiest weapon to the Soviets and precipitated the Korean War.

Records of the grand jury that voted the indictment remain sealed. But we now know the Soviet cables decoded before the trial provided no hard evidence of Ethel's complicity. And Mr. Greenglass has recently admitted that he lied about the most incriminating evidence against his sister. The government's strategy backfired. Ethel wouldn't budge. The Rosenbergs refused to confess and were convicted.

"She called our bluff," William P. Rogers, the deputy attorney general at the time, said shortly before he died in 2001.

"They had the key to the death chamber in their hands," Mr. Kilsheimer says. "They never used it."

Whatever military and technical secrets Julius delivered to the Russians — and it now seems all but certain that, as a committed Communist, he did provide information — the Rosenbergs proved more valuable as martyrs than as spies.

"The Soviets did win the propaganda war," said Robert J. Lamphere, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

The war isn't over. David Greenglass is 81; Ruth Greenglass is 79. They live under a pseudonym because their surname has become synonymous with betrayal of kin and country. "Perhaps," Mr. Meeropol says, "this is David and Ruth's final punishment."

On Thursday, Mr. Meeropol, who is 56, and his brother Michael, who is 60, (they took their adoptive parents' name) will attend a program at City Center in Manhattan to "commemorate the Rosenbergs' resistance" and benefit the Rosenberg Fund for Children, which Robert runs.

Michael Meeropol is chairman of the economics department at Western New England College. Would any evidence ever convince him that his father was a spy? "If Soviet documents were verified as historically accurate, I'd certainly believe that," he replied.

Then what? How would he explain his father's behavior? "I would have to do some thinking about my parents being involved in dangerous things, but I can't judge people from the 1940's," he said. "He's not in the Army. He has bad eyesight. He can't make the contribution that others were making. I could argue that this was a way of doing it."

To this day, plenty of people would argue that he's wrong.

Sam Roberts, the deputy editor of the Week in Review, is the author of "The Brother: The Untold Story of the Rosenberg Case."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar; leftyapologists; nytimes; rosenbergs; spying
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To: liberallarry
We're better planners because we allow "stupid" people to run their own lives, because we cater to people's actual interests rather than to what's best for them, because capitalism is a system in which low level chaos actually strengthens the system.

If by smart people you mean people who acknowlege and support this system, I'm with you. But I don't see much support for this system at harvard. The Economics Dpartment at Chicago, maybe.

281 posted on 06/17/2003 11:56:16 AM PDT by js1138
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To: Zack Nguyen
humanists, atheists and socialist

I like humanists and athiests much more than you do - and I'm less sweeping and less certain in my criticism of socialistism.

However, I do have big problems with current left-wing political thought...I can't stand political correctness. More generally, the Left has a basic problem; at bottom, they're trying to justify greater rewards for the meek, the weak, the dumb, the unlucky - life's losers. Not an easy task. Some very, very famous people have tried and failed on this one.

None-the-less Leftists intellectuals, if they're capable and good at their job (as opposed to incompetent, foolish, and intolerant) deserve respect.

282 posted on 06/17/2003 11:56:36 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Why?
283 posted on 06/17/2003 12:02:12 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: js1138
smart people can be wrong about some things...and still be smart

i know a smart person when i see one - i assess how he thinks acts and talks. his social position and formal education count...but they're secondary. i don't have to agree with his politics, his religion, his ethics to judge him.

maybe you have different standards

284 posted on 06/17/2003 12:05:37 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: MEG33
Why do people who don't agree with you deserve respect? Is that a serious question?
285 posted on 06/17/2003 12:08:55 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
However, I do have big problems with current left-wing political thought...

Can you give me an example of left wing thought that is worthy of respect even if it isn't current?

I can offer some possibilities: the anti-Jim Crow movement of the 50s and 60s -- but this was really started back in the 1800s by Republicans, so I consider it an ethical issue rather than liberal or conservative. Welfare -- but this goes back at least as far as jewish law, which mandated "leavings" for the poor at harvest time.

I would argue that most of the issues with which liberals justify their supposed moral superiority are neither liberal nor conservative. they are matters of personal character.

286 posted on 06/17/2003 12:09:41 PM PDT by js1138
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To: liberallarry
I never argued about whether people differ in IQ and education. I simply don't want to be governed by people chosen on these factors. If smart people with other qualities manage to get elected, that's OK.
287 posted on 06/17/2003 12:12:47 PM PDT by js1138
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To: liberallarry
I don't think anyone deserves respect.They earn respect.
288 posted on 06/17/2003 12:24:20 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: DPB101
Soviet spy master, Paul Sudoplatov of SMERSH, revealed he worked with Szilard and others to the detriment of the US.
289 posted on 06/17/2003 12:26:10 PM PDT by HISSKGB
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To: liberallarry
More generally, the Left has a basic problem; at bottom, they're trying to justify greater rewards for the meek, the weak, the dumb, the unlucky - life's losers.

I wouldn't call someone who is weak, meek or unlucky "losers." However, I do agree that political correctness is an attempt at social coercion. You should consider that, because frankly many points of political correctness reflect the viewpoint of socialists and atheists.

I agree that everyone deserves respect.

290 posted on 06/17/2003 1:26:40 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: HISSKGB; liberallarry
I have been googling and reading about your Sudoplatov.Fascinating and controversial.I have read also a frightening statement made by Bertrand Russell about germ warfare as a means of population control!Seems also scientists put themselves on a moral plane that ignores national interests.Our scientists were not very careful about our secrets.
291 posted on 06/17/2003 1:28:45 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: js1138
Can you give me an example of left wing thought that is worthy of respect even if it isn't current?

I'll take you literally - your mean thoughts rather than thinkers. Also, I have to be a little loose in my interpretations since ideas are cumulative - they build on the past.

How about the counter-syclic economic ideas of John Maynard Keynes? The kibbutzim of the Zionists? Fabian socialism and syndicalism? Modern trade unions? Universal health care? Social Security (even though that's usually attributed to a very conservative 19th century German)? Child labor laws? Environmental preservation? General tolerance (although this one too has many fathers)?

That's just off the top of my head. Also the anti-slavery laws which you attribute to Republicans - who were very left-wing by the standards of the time. Keep in mind also that Adam Smith and capitalism represented Left-wing liberals in his day. On the right were aristocrats, monarchists, and much different economic ideas.

292 posted on 06/17/2003 1:29:05 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: MEG33
They earn respect

That was my earning. Your adversaries can earn your respect. In less barbarous times, among less barbarous peoples, warriors often honored their foes if they displayed courage and skill in combat.

293 posted on 06/17/2003 1:33:14 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Zack Nguyen
When I said respect is earned..I meant deferential or esteemed treatment.To give special recognition to them for some quality.
294 posted on 06/17/2003 1:35:12 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
I have read also a frightening statement made by Bertrand Russell about germ warfare as a means of population control!

I'd like to see that one. Population control was on everyone's mind and they were much less politically correct, much more direct about their ideas and methods.

295 posted on 06/17/2003 1:36:09 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
How about the counter-syclic economic ideas of John Maynard Keynes? The kibbutzim of the Zionists? Fabian socialism and syndicalism? Modern trade unions? Universal health care? Social Security (even though that's usually attributed to a very conservative 19th century German)? Child labor laws? Environmental preservation? General tolerance (although this one too has many fathers)?

These are good ideas? I think what you have is a laundry list of good intentions, but things that don't survive in application. Social security, basically a forced retirement investment, cannot survive its Ponzi financing without an expanding economy, so why not put the investments directly in mutual funds? Trade unions are important in an era when corporations are allowed to run like organized crime, but unions are essentially the employers of their members, just like temporary employment agencies. So who protects the worker against the union, which is now the employer?

Basically I'm dubious of any idea that involves involuntary subscription.

296 posted on 06/17/2003 1:41:26 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Zack Nguyen
You should consider that, because frankly many points of political correctness reflect the viewpoint of socialists and atheists

Yah. True. But not necessarily so - that's just the direction of modern-day leftist thinking. It began in the '60s when freedom of opportunity didn't lead immediately to equality of result. That's where the Lefties lost me...and a lot of others.

More generally, social coercion comes with every social system. Choose your poison.

297 posted on 06/17/2003 1:42:40 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
I know about eugenics,too.The Russell quote was in my googling search..don't know which source.He was against war as it had been practiced and was musing about the difficulty of implementing socialism with the problem posed by overpopulation.
298 posted on 06/17/2003 1:43:36 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
Well, in that case, I do not think that leftist intellectuals are deserving of any special recognition for great quality of work.
299 posted on 06/17/2003 1:43:40 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: liberallarry
New oxford review.Bertrand Russell The New World Order.I googled Overpopulation,Bertrand Russell.VERY interesting!
300 posted on 06/17/2003 1:50:49 PM PDT by MEG33
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