The Evil of Dating (Dating vs.Courtship)

Lewrockwell.com ^ | September 7, 2002 | Heather M. Carson

[wimpycat]

ROFL! You'd have been better off not to have said anything at all.

[Paul C. Jesup]

I thought you believed that the Lord was a loving God.

[Paul C. Jesup]

That is what I read from Theo's post.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/931885/posts?page=27#27

Take it up with him.

[stuartcr]

OK

[Paul C. Jesup]

But you sure had to be looking REALLY hard for it to have that be your conclusion about the article.........and you must realize that, in spite of the increased aggressiveness in girls, that there are still guys out there who are trying to take advantage of them, succeed, and move on to other conquests.

Predators come in both sexes. Some people just don't want to realize that.

The essence of the article is about morality.

I will agree with you on that.

[Lazamataz]

I am a romantic, I married my high school sweetheart. I haven't stopped "dating" her. I was infatuated with in in the 9th grade (1979) and we were on our first outing the next year. I have been with her since and do not see life with out her.

I have a daughter and 3 sons, each are learning how to have long term relationships, that it is a slow process to learn about someone, but even if you just meet someone, you can marry and make a relationship work.

Lucky you. I'm getting a puppy.

[opus86]

Thanks. (Ditto the "woo-hoo"...I'm 34, the wife is 21.) Regarding parental covering, I was raised similarly. We both consulted with our parents and accepted their guidance during our courtship.

[Lazamataz]

There is no such thing as "premarital sex." Once you have sex, you've literally become one with that person, and in a sense have "married" them.

Uh oh. That means I have a lot of "ex-wives".

[JakeWyld]

re: 73

Say it isn't so!!!

Great pic!!

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Here's a song that works pretty well as a guide for young women, from a group that plies well on the Christian rock circuit, believe it or not. To top it off, its got a good thumping drive. Of course, Paulwouldn't like any girl with a sense of self and self assurance.

SUPERCHICK

One Girl Revolution

I wear a disguise
I'm not just your average jane
The super doesn't stand for model
But that doesn't mean I'm plain
If all you see is how I look
You miss the superchick within
And I christen you Titanic underestimate and swim
I've got the rifle gonna be myself

(CHORUS)

I'll be everything that I want to be
I am confidence in insecurity
I am a voice yet waiting to be heard
I'll shoot the shot bang that you hear round the world
I'm a one girl revolution
Some people see the revolution but most only see the girl
I can lose my hard earned freedom if my fear defines my world
I declare my independence from the critics and their stones
I can find my revolution I can learn to stand alone...

[TruthConquers]

Ping for later!

[Lazamataz]

Adultery = Sex outside marriage. See the woman at the well.

Why, does she have some hot sweaty fornication for me? (leer)

[ohioWfan]

As the mother of two boys and two girls ranging from ages 16 to 23, I KNOW that there are predators in both sexes, and in some cases the girls are now worse than the guys......

It is tough to stay moral in this world, regardless of your age and gender, which is why it's important to have the foundation given by faith in God and guidance at home to keep oneself pure, and to stay away from situations that make it even harder for you........like single dating.

[JakeWyld]

As long as they don't try to get alimony you should be okay.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

You think you can get away with it, scot free, in the entire cosmic scheme of things every time you commit an onanistic act? Ha! Something must pay....

[Lazamataz]

I have never ever ever heard of a college student who sought out their Resident Advisor for help with sexual decisions.

My first RA was about 270, 5'9", and ALL MUSCLE.

I just cannot picture going to that guy for help on who I should boink and why.

[NeoCaveman]

Say it isn't so!!!

It ain't so

Great pic!!

It still cracks me up and like the reactions it gets out of people.

[Paul C. Jesup]

You think you can get away with it, scot free, in the entire cosmic scheme of things every time you commit an onanistic act? Ha! Something must pay....

I am so shocked by what you just said that I cannot put into words how twisted I think your mind truly is.

[connectthedots]

While I cannot, at this time, give a concrete and historical dissertation on courtship, I can recommend several books that I have read and two that I am currently reading on the subject. Starting with the ones I have read:

Two books is not several. This gal seems to fit the stereotype of an expert: Someone from out of town.

Passion and Purity, Quest for Love – both by author Elisabeth Elliot. The first book deals with her own courtship experience with her late husband Jim Elliot, and the latter focuses more on general courtship practices and answers specific questions for how to proceed in our current atmosphere.

I've read this book, and I am opposed to sex outside of marriage. Even so, having read this book, Jim Elliot comes across as a bit of a wack-job in the area relationships. The fact that he and Elizabeth were missionaries and he was murdered while in the mission field does not make her an expert on dating. Any gal that would put up with the way he treated her during dating and courtship might possibly have a problem or two of her own to deal with. On the other hand their personalities and single-minded focus on missions seemed to fit them well.

From my reading of the book, I would be surprised if their marriage involved much sexual passion. She certainly didn't talk about it, and any Christian book on dating and marriage ought to discuss sexual passion within marriage as endorsed and encouraged by God. Eliott writes almost as if sex in marriage doesn't exist. Maybe they were sexually passionate. If so, she should have discussed that area as well.

I Kissed Dating Goodbye written by Joshua Harris. This is a great book for young adults interested in learning how to pull back from dating.

I've read this book too, and thought Harris' reasoning was not only unrealistic, but likely emotionally unhealthy as well. There is no question that it has been widely read, so much so that Cloud and Townsend in their Boundaries in Dating discuss it at length in their introduction.

Cloud and Townsend do agree with Harris that some people should not be dating because they are not emotionally capable of handling it. Dating is not the problem, it is the maturity, selection of dates, and the way one dates that create problems. Anyone who bases their future marriage on Harris' book is not as likely to be as happy in the end as one who uses Boundaries in Datind.

Two other excellent books are Finding the Love of Your Life and Date or Soul-Mate: How to Determine if Someone is Worth Pursuing in Two Dates or Less", both by Neil Clarke Warren.

There is also a book titled The Book of Romance by Nelson. Excellent Christian book on the subject of dating, marriage and sexual passion within marriage.

[nickcarraway]

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