With Gays Marrying in Canada, & APA Going Easy on Pedophiles, Republicans Must Take a Stand!

NOTE: I posted the message below several weeks ago. Since that time, there have been several new developments. The American Psychological Association is now considering normalizing pedophilia, as it did to homosexuality in 1973. Canada has now normalized homosexual marriages, to be exactly equal in status to heterosexual marriages. And Presidential candidate, Howard Dean, has demanded that America extend recognition to Canadian gay marriages. And he is a guy who stands a good chance of winning the Democratic nomination (and possibly the Presidency if the economy is not booming in November 2004.)

It is time for the Republican Party and the Conservative Movement to make a clear and unambigous moral statement on homosexuality, and stop sending out mixed messages. In 1980, 1984, 1988 and 1992, the Republicans run on a clear, unapologetic, and unambigous platform of family values and traditional morality. Not surprisingly, they won 3 out of those 4 elections, but lost in 1992 because Ross Perot attracted some conservatives to his side.

Whichever way you try to spin it, homosexuality is a behavior. YES! It is a BEHAVIOR! I totally refuse to buy the psycho-garbage that claims that gays were born that way, and cannot control their behavior. If a human being cannot control his behavior, then he is a danger to himself and others, and should be locked up.

I know something about behavior. I had alcohol problems when I was younger, and my Irish family has suffered from at least 5 generations of alcoholism. So, I knew that my alcoholism was partly genetic, because of my family history. But even during my struggles with alcohol, I knew that every time I raised a glass of whiskey to my lips, I was making a conscious choice to drink. I haven't touched a drop of alcohol in 25 years. I empathise with George W. Bush as a human being, partly because he made a conscious decision to give up alcohol, just like I did.

I have also done a lot of reading of medical literature on alcholism, and I have read of something that experts describe as "dry alcoholism". People who are genetically inclined to alcoholism, may suffer severe cravings for alcohol, or may exhibit certain behavior related to the craving for alcohol such as nervous twitches, overeating, etc. Yet, society expects those of us who are genetically inclined towards alcoholism, to meet the same standards of public behavior as everyone else - such as showing up for work on time, avoiding public drunkeness, and avoiding DUIs. Is society being fair to us, by holding us to the same standards as those who do not have alcoholism genes? Yes! Yes! Yes! It is much harder for those of us genetically inclined to alcoholism, to avoid intoxication, but we try the best that we can. And we do not want law enforcement to make exceptions on DUI laws for us.

Is it too much to ask from homosexuals, to meet the same standards of moral behavior, as those of us who lack the gay orientation? No.

The Ex-Gay movement, says that people who live the homosexual lifestyle, are capable of making a conscious choice to abandon their repulsive behavior. The ex-gays present themselves as living proof, that people can change their homosexual behavior, and start living like normal people - whether as single people living chaste lives, or in married heterosexual relationships with spouses and children: http://www.pfox.org/

If the conservative movement and the GOP want to be true to the principles of their party, by holding everyone to the same standard, then the only truly authentic spokesmen on homosexuality that they should accept are the ex-gays. Ex-gays will not alienate the GOP from their social conservative base - the evangelical Christians, conservative Catholics, and Orthodox Jews. In fact, ex-gays are represented in those three movements. Ex-gays will make the conservative movement even more conservative and pro-family, and help defeat the moral relativism that is so prevalent in modern society.

On the other hand, the Log Cabin Republicans reduce conservatism to nothing more than cutting taxes: http://www.lcr.org/ Almost all Log Cabin Republicans are RINOS, and most are pro-choice. If the Republican Party and the GOP accept the philosophy of the Log Cabin Republicans, then, they would be accepting moral relativism, and the proposition that human beings are unable to regulate their sexual behavior in accordance to socially acceptable standards.

If the Log Cabin Republicans accept the GOP philosophy on taxes and defence spending, then they are certainly welcome to vote for the GOP. But for the GOP to insult the deepest held beliefs of their most faithful followers, by changing their electoral platform to endorse sickening and disgusting sexual acts, that is simply unacceptable.

The Republican base has been pushed as far and fast as it is willing to go.

Considering that you are a member of the Constitution Party, you have no credibility when it comes to speaking for the "Republican base."

The vast, vast majority of the Republican party views homosexuality as wrong, but also believes everyone is entitled to lead their lives as they see fit.

The Republican party wisely concentrates on fiscal and defense issues.

These divisive social issues are a sure ticket to electoral obscurity. Just ask anyone in the Constitution Party.

Trace

It should be clear that the practical option for those who feel that homosexuality is a choice, and a bad one at that, is for them to live an exemplary heterosexual life (happy spouse, lots of happy kids, etc.), and hope that homosexuals leading their lives in a less-exemplary fasion will cause people to determine not to make that choice.

Concur 100%. Unfortunately, this is far too sensible to be accepted by the rabidly anti-gay element that resides here on FR.

Trace

Recent polls show Americans overwhelmingly support abortion choice. You can rail all you want against it, but you're not going to change the American public's view. They also support more acceptence of homosexuals.

Actually, peoples' views of abortion is getting more pro-life, and there are even more stay-at-home moms! I don't know where you're getting your info. As far as "acceptance" of homosexualism, the kids are getting indoctrinated (per plan) but state after state is passing "defense of marriage" bills, so you're wrong there too.

The more you attempt to try to change it, the more resistence you'll receieve, and the more you'll appear to be the caricature that the leftist DIMocraps paint you to be.

In other words, Republicans should just accept the amorality/immorality path of the leftists-Democrats in order to get votes!

(Another way of saying "It's inevitable [social Darwinism] so might as well lie back and enjoy it")

I read the surveys that talked about the increase of "stay-at-home" moms also, and the polls about the increasing pro-life feelings. Those are both good things.

I don't know about "indroctination" though ... I think more people are just thinking that homosexuality isn't such a big issue anymore as many more people are actually acquainted with (or related to) open homosexuals who generally live otherwise quiet and normal lives and don't represent the "monstrous predator" or "dress wearing activist" image that they were used to in years past.

Kids are easily influenced by what teachers tell them in school (such as Heather Has Two Mommies, or, for instance, since 2001 in CA there is mandatory homosexual-positive cirriculum in K-12, special mandatory auditorium presentations such as has happened in OR, etc) as well as a frontal attack on TV and movies with "gay-positive" shows and movies. Even Disney has had homo-promo in animated kiddie movies. I've seen it myself - for instance, in "Mulan" (saw it as a captive audience in a train) there are guys in drag, a masculinzed woman who rejects the marriage proposal of the hero, and other junk as well.

In the Eureka, CA newspaper a while ago I read a letter to the editor - a young teenage girl was upset because at the homo-promo class, the teacher (a special one brought in by Planned Parenthood) asked the kids if anyone thought homosexuality was wrong. She rasied her hand, and was then put in the middle of the circle of everyone else, and taunted.
A couple of years ago in Springfield, OR I read another letter to the editor from another teenage girl who had been forced to go to a presentation in the auditorium of transvestites and other "sexual alternatives" telling their tales. There is so much more. Believe me, the kids are being indoctrinated, and this is a planned effort.

Sorry Trace, considering I was Vice Chairman of my Republican County Committee and STATE Vice Chairman of the Young Republicans less than 5 years ago, I'd say I have a lot more credibility describing the Republican base than you do.

Just what's on your resume to justify telling me what the Republican base believes?

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