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Virginia Tech betrays Big East
TCPalm.com College Sports ^ | June 20, 2003 | BOB SMIZIK

Posted on 06/20/2003 7:03:09 PM PDT by putupon

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To: CatoRenasci
Hey, my Aggies are heading up there next season (I believe it is a Thursday night ESPN game)... what's there to do in the land of Hokie?

Trajan88; TAMU Class of '88

21 posted on 06/21/2003 1:54:12 AM PDT by Trajan88
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To: putupon
Once upon a time, a long time ago, I was the Honor Council Chairman and later, the Chief Justice, of the VPI Civilian Honor court. We were investigating the athletics department. They were sending out ringers to take SAT for less than bright high school seniors who were good on the field but lousy in the class room. A late night visit by some jocks to our penthouse room in O'Shaughnessy put and end to the investigation and many other things. Needless to say, I have had a very poor opinion about VaTech athletics every since then.
22 posted on 06/21/2003 2:16:59 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
Post any documentation that you have to PROVE that Casteen was pressured or forced into lobbying for VT........Every report I have seen says that UVA was behind adding VT as

ask and you shall recieve

Of course that is just one of many articles. I do realize our beloved Pres. Castrateened Turkey was for Vippy Sue getting in, but without the pols twisting his arm, he would have used common sense (no documented proof that that exist in his pinhead though) and gone with the flow and voted Martha in. Even GT, who loves Martha dearly, will vote "yes" for expansion w/ out Vippy Sue.

I myself was somewhat neuteral on Martha, even slightly in her favor, before the pols of VA joined that filthy turkeyspit lawsuit. Court ordered conference memberships, I can't believe actual FReepers can support that.

Now back to Castrateen, being a former Pres. of UConn hardly makes his opinion objective as to whats in UVa's best interest (that's UVa, not UVA, thank you very much.)

A huge majority of alums and supporters want the expansion. The dirtball Castrateen is going against what they want.

Suspicions have also been raised here that since Castrateen Turkey is in Europe, as is an unescourted Mrs. MarkyMark Warner, that some other payoff may be being made.

Of course, being the gentleman that I am, I would not make such an accusation w/out proof, I am merely pointing out what others have said.

23 posted on 06/21/2003 4:09:31 AM PDT by putupon (Sic Semper Tyrannis, especially double dealing two faced Virginia RINOs)
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To: putupon
The lawyers are going to have a ball on this one. It will be fun to watch VT defend themselves against themselves in front of the judge. They may have to call Push Me Pull You from Dr. Suess as a witness.
24 posted on 06/21/2003 4:22:57 AM PDT by doosee
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To: AppyPappy
The Hoos have been sniveling ever since Mark Warner bitch-slapped them for their band's behavior

That argument won't get you anywhere AP, anything that helped finally bring an end to that outdated non-funny Pep Band was supported by 90% of the 'Hoos. We are embassed by them and hate them for that reason. Good riddance.

We have always been jealous of schools with good bands.

Hey wait a minute, Martha has two good bands, and we have none. I think we should sue to get one of them moved to Charlottesville. It's just not fair, somebody get me Jackboot Kilgore's phone number, the government needs to do something about this.

Although, now that the Nutless Barnyard Fowl are in bed with the lawyers and politicians, now out of bed with the lawyers and politicians, in bed with the lawyers and politicians, now out of bed with the lawyers and politicians, or wherever they are by the time I finish this sentence, we should bring the Pep Band back for one farewell skit.

I believe even they could come up with something funny about the backstabbing Vippy Sue-Politician-Lawyer axis of evil.

25 posted on 06/21/2003 4:27:55 AM PDT by putupon (Sic Semper Tyrannis, especially double dealing two faced Virginia RINOs)
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To: Physicist
Whiny Wahoos are as fun to listen to as whiny Democrats

How Clintonesque, typical DimRAT spin. Accuse the accuser of what you are guilty of. UVa wasn't the weeny whose feelings were hurt and called in the pols and lawyers.

26 posted on 06/21/2003 4:31:36 AM PDT by putupon (Sic Semper Tyrannis, especially double dealing two faced Virginia RINOs)
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To: doosee
ROFL
27 posted on 06/21/2003 4:33:44 AM PDT by putupon (Sic Semper Tyrannis, especially double dealing two faced Virginia RINOs)
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To: putupon
Come on. The Cavs couldn't beat Tech on the gridiron, so they resorted to the smoky backroom. Now its blown up in their faces, because the net result could be Tech in the ACC, in which case the Cavs take one more step to the conference cellar. Of course they're bawling.

For myself, I'd rather see the Big East (already the NCAA's strongest conference, and due to get stronger) remain intact. If the ACC is going to gut the Big East, however, then Tech is much better off in the ACC. (The Big East wouldn't last another season without Miami, Syracuse, etc. anyway; that's what you've been counting on.)

But now, at least, you can pretend it was all Tech's idea in the first place to bolt the Big East for the ACC. If it comforts you on the crapulous morning after another mauling at the hands of the Hokies, I won't begrudge that.
28 posted on 06/21/2003 6:38:27 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Morning Physicist!

check out my reply #7 to Tosh on this related thread, click here great concise history and analysis of Tek's current situation.

HOO baby, I'm a' stirring up this bucket of turkeyspit real good!

So much ammo, so little time.

WAHOOWA!!!

29 posted on 06/21/2003 7:02:31 AM PDT by putupon (bad names and dirty words)
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To: putupon
Actually, all your story alleges is that Casteen was pressured to vote against the merger if Tech wasn't included. However, it does say that he wanted Tech (and lobbied for them) in all along. So it doesn't sound like he had to be lobbied very hard...
30 posted on 06/21/2003 10:26:57 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (BOOM!)
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To: Trajan88
Well, you can drink yourself into a stupor. That's about it, IIRC.
31 posted on 06/21/2003 11:46:27 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Wow, talk about first hand info, thanks for sharing.
32 posted on 06/21/2003 2:06:57 PM PDT by putupon (this tag line is of very little signifigance)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
So it doesn't sound like he had to be lobbied very hard...

No, he wasn't.

Casteen's loyalties are to Warner and the pols, not UVa. Judging from his Northeast origins and life in academia, he is in all probability an active Democrat.

No question, Casteen is on Tech's side. He wants Tech in.

You have to admire his strategy, though, it would have worked perfectly if the pols hadn't made all that noise.

Whoever made the final decision to join the lawsuit screwed things up for Tech.

But the Hokies should, as one of our local sports radio pundits said, and I paraphrase, "send Casteen's wife flowers, take them to dinner, shake his hand, cut his grass, whatever he wants."

This has been an interesting, if ugly, month though. Something to think about besides recruiting.

33 posted on 06/21/2003 2:56:23 PM PDT by putupon (this tag line is of no signifigance)
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To: Trajan88
what's there to do in the land of Hokie?

possum is in season in august. sheep pushing is also popular. Go Aggies Beat Vippy Sue

34 posted on 06/21/2003 8:24:18 PM PDT by putupon (this tag line is of no signifigance)
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This mornings Washington Post headline:

ACC Invites Miami, Virginia Tech
Big East's Boston College, Syracuse Are Excluded
35 posted on 06/25/2003 4:41:46 AM PDT by tdunbar
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To: Physicist
Whiny Wahoos are as fun to listen to as whiny Democrats

Reminds me of my fave bumper sticker - "Women at VMI? What's next, men at UVA?"
36 posted on 06/25/2003 4:46:20 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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