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1 posted on 06/21/2003 8:34:57 PM PDT by nwrep
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2 posted on 06/21/2003 8:42:07 PM PDT by nwrep
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...20,248 BTUs of electricity--195 years of electricity to power the average American home...

Ah....NO! Not even CLOSE, LOL! That amount of BTU would get used up in a couple of hours easily at my house!

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4 posted on 06/21/2003 8:45:42 PM PDT by prisoner6 ( Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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I'm from the South where loblolly pines are what the paper companies use for book pages. Is there some other tree the Cannucks use? What is this wierdism about old forests? ... Isn't 'old timber' used in construction lumber?
5 posted on 06/21/2003 8:48:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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Sounds like a good idea. Nothing wrong with recycling stuff that is either leftover from production. The best thing to recycle is trashed paper.
6 posted on 06/21/2003 8:51:41 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm a mutt-american)
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The Canadian edition of the eagerly anticipated book--all 935,000 copies--has been printed by Canadian publisher Raincoast Books on 100 percent recycled, endangered forest free paper, a move that many believe represents a landmark event for environmentally friendly publishing.

Ahh, but they didn't say it was dolphin safe! How many innocent dolphins were slaughtered to print these books? Considering how quiet they are about it, the number must be in the thousands.

Save the dolphins! Boycott Harry Potter!

By the way, I like the picture you added. It definitely has the right ambience for the article. :^)

And it also is reminiscent of the theme for the next movie, titled Harry Potter and the Crucible of Stoning, which portrays our plucky protagonists as they muddle through their teen years...

"Hey Hermione, don't bogart that crucible, man!"

7 posted on 06/21/2003 8:55:31 PM PDT by Imal (One finds the truth by seeking it, not by proclaiming it.)
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I think these "people" are uninformed....wood chips, the by product, AFTER a tree has been used for OTHER (lumber for homes, etc.) purposes....are what make paper, according to my Paper Industry (pulp & paper) husband. Paper is the WASTE product of a tree that cannot be used for other larger purposes. In other words their argument is faulty.
15 posted on 06/21/2003 9:43:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (FR - the truth, and nothing but the truth.........getting to the bottom of journalistic bias.)
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The NYT sure does not use any high content of recycled paper.

They also use really cheap ink that gets all over hands and white sheets or other places.

Or so I am told by a lady editor of newpapers in NY, CT, DC, NY, PA, AK, NY.....

What gypsies the media types are.
16 posted on 06/21/2003 9:56:18 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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I just finished Order of the Phoenix. There are many themes in it that should resonate here. Although there is some good vs. evil there is also a lot of good (Harry's side) vs. libs, RINOs and their media allies. Oh, our libs will try to place the race card and compare the anti-Mudblood forces to their false stereotype of Trent Lott. But if you review the words and actions of the forces arrayed against Harry in the middle of the book they are strikingly similar to what the left has been doing here. Umbridge would make an excellent Democratic presidential candidate. She's against the war on terror or even the need for it. She wants more state control of and through education. She's against letting people defend themselves. She wants to ban any media that disagrees with her spin. She talks to people as if they were small children and tells them she's doing this for their own good. She even has Hillary's temper.
20 posted on 06/21/2003 10:16:42 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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I saw that picture and expected an article about hemp paper with the required catfight between the pro- and anti-WoSD crowds. Recycling stories are so 20th century.
21 posted on 06/21/2003 10:24:13 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Paranoia is when you realize that tin foil hats just focus the mind control beams.)
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This is from The Onion, right?
27 posted on 06/21/2003 10:52:38 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Is it just me ... or is the whole world running headlong over the cliff ...??? LOL
31 posted on 06/22/2003 12:48:25 AM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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Trees get old, die and fall to the ground. Old trees are home to disease and prevent new growth. Standing timber processes CO2 while decaying wood passes other gas. Trees themselves seem to pass some polutants as seen in the Smokey Mountains. Proper logging is a healthy conservancy practice since trees are a renewable resource.
32 posted on 06/22/2003 2:48:32 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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But I don't want my Harry Potter books to be green.
33 posted on 06/22/2003 5:22:25 AM PDT by LionsDaughter (Eat a live toad in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you for the rest of the day.)
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Well, it's appropriate.
For some books it makes sense to print them on paper that will disintegrate and take the trip to oblivion sooner rather than later.

Why wasn't Living Lies... er History printed on green paper?

34 posted on 06/22/2003 5:45:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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will save almost 30,000 trees in forests such as the Boreal forest of Canada, as well as in Canada's rainforests and throughout the Rockies region.
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In addition, it will conserve 20,248 BTUs of electricity--195 years of electricity to power the average American home--and 2,679,548 pounds of greenhouse gases, which equals 2.4 million miles traveled by car with average fuel efficiency.

Why do I have the nagging feeling that these numbers were pulled out of some green butt?
I suspect the numbers are either manufactured outright, or neglects the human and other energy that was necessary to gather, sort, transport reprocess and redistribute this green wonder stuff.

I am looking forward to hearing from people who actually know and track these costs to provide the real picture.

36 posted on 06/22/2003 5:53:46 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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And the band played on....
37 posted on 06/22/2003 6:07:17 AM PDT by Vote 4 Nixon
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Screw the "Whomping willow"

Tell him I killed his cousin and carved him into a pencil holder... and he's next.

40 posted on 06/22/2003 6:22:32 AM PDT by Jhoffa_
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What's that fuzzy thing on the head of the girl on the far left? A fur derby? Or is that her hair?? What's recycling got to do with freeing pot?
43 posted on 06/22/2003 7:59:08 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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Recycling is a great thing. There's nothing wrong with it, though the term 'tree free' is an outright lie. Recycled paper was still originally made from trees.

Raincoast is NOT the first compant on print books on recycled paper. O'Reilly, a publisher of programming textbooks, has been printing on recycled paper for years. Raincoast may be the first CANADIAN publisher to do so, but they have hardly transformed the publishing industry.

The article is ignorant, blatant propaganda, meant to remind the population of the need to protect the environment from the evil logging companies and help them to forget their economic woes and the growing disgust with the government.

44 posted on 06/22/2003 8:14:33 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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"935,000 books...30,000 trees"

A little back of the envelope and we get 31 books per tree. I've seen a lot of trees; and I'm prepared to say that trees that unproductive of paper are not 'Ancient Forest Monarchs'.

I think we're talking weed species and pecker-poles....or else total disinformation.

These watermelon phonies are lifetime kindergartners; they think in feelings.

48 posted on 06/22/2003 8:56:00 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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