The Great "Gay" Con

The Washington Dispatch | June 23, 2003 | Patrick Rooney

[Clint N. Suhks]

I have no personal knowledge regarding its accuracy,

Just invented for fictional entertainment reading purposes huh? That isn’t logical is it?

but again, it's before the Sixties.

It was the gay nineties, that’s the 1890’s and not “gay” in its current meaning, when the first openly public support for homosexuality began by European intellectual elites. And the “sixties” in the article is referring to the sexual revolution and is accurate in doing so.

[Scenic Sounds]

It was the gay nineties, that’s the 1890’s and not “gay” in its current meaning, when the first openly public support for homosexuality began by European intellectual elites.

See, Cathryn, here's still another historical view. Again, before the Sixties!

And the “sixties” in the article is referring to the sexual revolution and is accurate in doing so.

The "real" sexual revolution began in the Fifties, not the Sixties! The folks were like rabbits back in the Fifties.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Just invented for fictional entertainment reading purposes huh?

Well...since he was alive at that point, I guess he has plenty of knowledge about it.

[Scenic Sounds]

Well...since he was alive at that point, I guess he has plenty of knowledge about it.

Well, that could be. Who knows? You know, not everyone was invited to the Sexual Revolution. ;-)

[JonathansMommie]

OK that just made my Husband Puke.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Women don't get off on watching men - we think it's just about the nastiest thing we can think of.

Definitely. I am also creeped out by the girl/girl thing, although I can tolerate watching it more than I can two men together. That's the worst.

[RLK]

Language being important, the word “homosexual” was overthrown, and replaced with the happy word “gay.”

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Gay is short for "gay Lothario." It was coineed by gays.

[LibertarianInExile]

What you said.

[gcruse]

You just have no idea how much damage
 was done to this country by those Rolling Beatles. ;-)

Is it true Paul McCartney was in a group before Wings?  ;)

[Scenic Sounds]

Is it true Paul McCartney was in a group before Wings? ;)

The real Paul McCartney died in a car crash before his "substitute" later formed Wings. The real Paul McCartney couldn't play bass worth a damn. :-)

[Salem]

The Homosexual Movement - A Response by the Ramsey Colloquium

[jlogajan]

Even today, the average person still cringes when they see two men mouth-kissing one another. The truth is, the practice is innately abhorrent

Sigh. Religionoids make stuff up like this and then cite is as fact. If this guy would crawl out of his cave from time to time he would find out that there are cultures where a greeting between two men includes a mouth on mouth kiss.

[jlogajan]

That's why government should get out of both health care and marriage IMO.

Exactly. The state has no business defining marriage of any sort, other than to recognize any voluntarily entered contractual relationship.

[Quix]

GOOD ARTICLE.

THANKS.

I would quibble slightly with the kissing thing, though.

A number of cultures--particularly in the middle east--include men kissing on the lips much as a hello handshake and good bye rigual.

It can be disconcerting at first. But the incidence of homosexuality in those cultures is likely at least not higher than in cultures where the practice is absent.

The key, to me, would be--what's going on in the mind and elsewhere in the bodies of the parties doing the kissing.

Of course, at some point, mouth kissing can become--what was the Golden Pond term--suck face kissing. That's not what I'm talking about!!!

Part of me still suspects--without stats as I know no suitable research with stats--but part of me still suspects that cultures in which men are routinely and healthily affectionate WITHOUT BEING homosexual should logically have FEWER homosexuals.

Particularly so, given that so much of it seems like a desperate perversion trying to recover affection from Dad that never occurred at critical psyche/personality forming early years.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Well...since he was alive at that point, I guess he has plenty of knowledge about it.

Scenic Sounds was alive when Leviticus and Romans were written?

[Clint N. Suhks]

If this guy would crawl out of his cave from time to time he would find out that there are cultures where a greeting between two men includes a mouth on mouth kiss.

Sigh…do you know the difference between sexual and plutonic, a kiss an "kissing"?

[Clint N. Suhks]

The state has no business defining marriage of any sort

Compelling state’s interest maybe?

other than to recognize any voluntarily entered contractual relationship.

Why? Try going to a lawyer for your contracts outside of marriage, I hear they are very helpful.

[Clint N. Suhks]

The folks were like rabbits back in the Fifties.

That case can be made after every war ever fought and is more true in the late 40’s than it was in the 50’s. Historically the sexual revolution started in the late 60’s with the feminist movement…burning bras etc.

[weegee]

The "real" sexual revolution began in the Fifties, not the Sixties! The folks were like rabbits back in the Fifties.

The 1950s had Hugh Hefner and Kinsey. A revolution needs its leaders.

LSD existed in the 1950s but it took Timothy Leary on the East coast and Ken Kesey on the West coast to make it an indulgence.