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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Irrelevant even if true, which is doubtful. Your source is hardly a credible one. Nevertheless, attacking under a flag of truce, and massacring women and children was a criminal act. Not unlike Waco.

I never thought I would run across anyone who actually defended the mass murderer Chivington. May he burn in Hell.
38 posted on 06/25/2003 6:08:51 PM PDT by kms61
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To: kms61
***Irrelevant even if true, which is doubtful. ***


Are you saying fresh scalps in a "peaceful" Indian camp are irrelevant?
I suppose when Custer found slaughtered settlers and followed their murderer's tracks in the snow back to the Washita camp (where he witnessed a white captive child taken in the raids by these "peaceful" indians disemboweled by a squaw) is irrelivant also!

When Captain Ware went west in the spring 1864 he found the plains at peace. He was informed by older soldiers that the Indians would go back on the warpath when the grass was tall enough to support a war pony! They did.


The soldiers later cursed Chivington because he padded the number of Indian dead at Sand Creek. They hoped he had killed more!

You doubt this evidence?
Report on the Conduct of the War 1864-65 pt 3.
Report of 1867 on Condition of Indian Tribes.
Senate Document No. 26, 1866-67
Documents from Interior Department concerning Custer's Fight on the Washita. Sen. Doc. No 13, 1868-69.
Documents from War DEpartment concerning Custer's Fight on the Washita. Sen Doc No. 18, 1868-69.

You have been getting your history from too much Hollywood trash like,
TOMAHAWK
SOLDIER BLUE
LITTLE BIG MAN.
40 posted on 06/25/2003 6:57:06 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: kms61
attacking under a flag of truce, and massacring women and children was a criminal act

And so is hiding behind a flag of truce. We just lost some good folks when the Iraqis did that. An Indian camp was more of a base than a city. People were always coming and going to hunt, to visit, to raid. Some of those in the Sand Creek camp had just come from butchering whites on the Eastern Slope.

I spent some time in the area when I was younger and mothers would command obedience from their children by threatening to "skin them alive". That was a holdover from the deep fears of the settlement days.

42 posted on 06/25/2003 7:31:29 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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