"I SAW [Mel Gibson's] THE PASSION" [the attacks are pretty much demonic]

Act One: Writing for Hollywood | 6/26/03 | Barbara Nicolosi

[GOPJ]

Don't let the left change you. See the movie for it's joy.

I'll see it, just to spite the left and their hateful attacks against the film.

[GOPJ]

Don't let the left change you. See the movie for it's joy.

I'll see it, just to spite the left and their hateful attacks against the film.

[RobbyS]

She said nothing about the photography. If the cinematograper did his job right, that could make all the difference.

[tbird5]

The catholic church was the first to elevate Mary's life and her importance to mankind. The catholic church is the only church that continues to elevate Mary and motherhood. Glad a catholic decided to make this film. Mel understands how important the virgin is.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

MEL GIBSON is Lt. Col. HAL MOORE =


http://www.WeWereSoldiers.com

http://www.LzXRay.com

[Enlightiator]

Oh for Pete's sake! I do hope that's sarcasm on your part, because if not, then you know nothing of the art of movie-making.

Of course it was sarcasm, with a very good point. Don't invoke the "art of movie making" as you put it, and then in then next breath claim "The film is faithful to the Gospel, particularly St. John" as the film reviewer did. I fully understand creative license, although I disagree that using it in telling the story of Jesus is biblical -and if you don't understand why, then you may need to read the last few passages of the bible. I did find this interview with Mel Gibson very impressive: http://www.christiancinema.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsdesk_id=20

I like Gibson, and he says some wonderful things in the interview I linked to. So if I can somehow stomach the typical catholic idolization of Mary as indicated in the posted movie review ("Kind of like how Mary's presence helped Jesus get through it, it seemed to me. The film is lovingly Marian. Mary is perfectly portrayed here." etc.etc.), I may even see the flick.

[LadyDoc]

http://www.ewtn.com/vondemand/audio/dload1.asp?rafile=wo031403.ra&source=frmselectseries.asp&seriesID=&T1=the%20passion
The World Over
Host: Raymond Arroyo w/ Actor/Director Mel Gibson, music from Natalie MacMaster & John McDermott
Date Produced: 3/14/03
Description: Academy award winner Mel Gibson talks about his latest project, The Passion, a film covering Christ’s life from Gethsemane to the crucifixion. Natalie MacMaster and John McDermott performed St. Patrick’s day favourites. (encore from last year)

There was also an interview in another program with Jim C. but I can't find that one....yet

[Im Your Huckleberry]

Well, that would, of course, be the primary reason I would see it.

[jla]

FYI (some very interesting discussion pts.)

[Notwithstanding]

I detect jealousy in your comments.

Are you jealous that Jesus would logically love His mother in a special way?

Are you jealous that Mary would love her Son in a special way?

I think you are.

You should not covet.

[Dan from Michigan]

The first thing I learned, was that EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL.

I know that. The hard way.

Unfortunatly, I have experience is some of the most ugly type of politics there is. Internal organizational politics.

[Coleus]

I hope this helps.

[RobbyS]

And I'll bet that description of Jesus is missing, too.

[Skywalk]

Relies most heavily on John, eh?

John is the book written in the most time after the death of Jesus. It is also the most pro-Roman in its appraisal of the Jews and the events of Jesus' death(pro-Roman to curry favor with Romans with an eye to put down new Jewish cults)

It is the least reliable of the Gospels and the most explicit in its transmission of the idea of Christ as the literal Son of God.

I'd have preferred an emphasis on the other Gospels, which by being closer in date to Jesus death MIGHT be a bit more reliable.

[Imal]

Obviously my bible must be missing a few pages from the book of John...I don't remember any of these scenes....

You may want to read your bible a little more carefully.

From St. John 19:

38 And after this Joseph of Arimathe'a, being a disciple of Jesus, but secretly for fear of the Jews, besought Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus: and Pilate gave him leave. He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus.

38a But Mary, mother of Jesus, upon seeing him removed from the cross, did come to him, and held him in her arms.

38b Then, as she held the body of Jesus, she did look into the camera, with a kind of "Look what you've done"/This is for you" expression.

38c And the super creepy Satan character did gnash her teeth and shake her fist in rage, for her anger was great, and the spirits of demons were in her, and she ran from that place, called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Gol'gotha, and was seen no more.

38d And the camera did dolly back, while Mary's theme was cued, and the camera did pan left to show Mary and Jesus, as part of the tableau of Gol'gotha, and create an Oscar moment.

38e Then the Director spake thus, "It is finished", and said, "Where is my latte? Verily, verily, I know I ordered a latte!". And the production crew tooketh five.

It is all there for those who care to look.

[Slyfox]

I can't wait to see this film.

[RobbyS]

Then again, ignoring the literary nature of the Bible is a bad practice. Reading Paul is like reading one side of an exchange of letters. Some letters attributed to Paul have a very different voice. My(Methodist) wife is making a project of reading the Bible through. She made an interesting comment: that so often the story just stops abruptly. That's why she prefers reading the Old Testament to the New.

[Polycarp]

which by being closer in date to Jesus death MIGHT be a bit more reliable.

I don't think Christians will have such scruples about the use of John as you try to express here. The Jesus Seminar folks would probably give you a thumbs up on your points here though.

[DPB101]

Mel is shoring up Western Civilization against the rats who are gnawing at the foundations. One doesn't even have to be Christian to appreciate that.

[Tennessee_Bob]

You Protestants should REALLY try reading your Bibles sometime, instead of reading your prejudices.

Hmmm...considering that you're talking prejudice here, maybe you should rethink/rephrase that particular comment.