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Scalia: What a massive disruption of the social order this ruling entails.
US Supreme Court ^ | June 26, 2003 | nwrep

Posted on 06/26/2003 7:37:38 PM PDT by nwrep

Scalia: What a massive disruption of the social order ... this ruling entails.

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Read below one of the most brilliant defenses of traditional values, morality and conventions that have governed civilization for the past 5000 years. Judge Scalia is a national treasure:

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Excerpted from his dissent in today's sodomy ruling:

I begin with the Court ’s surprising readiness to recon- sider a decision rendered a mere 17 years ago in Bowers v. Hardwick .I do not myself believe in rigid adherence to stare decisis in constitutional cases;but I do believe that we should be consistent rather than manipulative in invoking the doctrine.Today ’s opinions in support of reversal do not bother to distinguish —or indeed,even bother to mention —the paean to stare decisis coauthored by three Members of today ’s majority in Planned Parent- hood v.Casey.

There,when stare decisis meant preserva- tion of judicially invented abortion rights,the widespread criticism of Roe was strong reason to reaffirm it: “Where,in the performance of its judicial duties,the Court decides a case in such a way as to resolve the sort of intensely divisive controversy reflected in Roe [,] ....its decision has a dimension that the resolu- tion of the normal case does not carry....[T ]o over- rule under fire in the absence of the most compelling reason ...would subvert the Court ’s legitimacy be- yond any serious question.”505 U.S.,at 866 –867.

Today ’s approach to stare decisis invites us to overrule an erroneously decided precedent (including an “intensely divisive ” decision))if:(1)its foundations have been “eroded ” by subsequent decisions,ante ,at 15;(2)it has been subject to “substantial and continuing ” criticism,,ibid.;and (3)it has not induced “individual or societal reliance ” that counsels against overturning,ante ,at 16.

The problem is that Roe itself —which today ’s majority surely has no disposition to overrule —satisfies these conditions to at least the same degree as Bowers.

I do not quarrel with the Court ’s claim that Romer v. Evans ,517 U.S.620 (1996),“eroded ”the “foundations ”of Bowers ’ rational--basis holding. See Romer ,supra ,at 640 –643 (SCALIA,J.,dissenting).) But Roe and Casey have been equally “eroded ”by Washington v.Glucksberg ,521 U.S.702,721 (1997),which held that only fundamental rights which are “‘deeply rooted in this Nation ’s history and tradition ’”qualify for anything other than rational basis scrutiny under the doctrine of “substantive due process.”Roe and Casey ,of course,subjected the restric- tion of abortion to heightened scrutiny without even at- tempting to establish that the freedom to abort was rooted in this Nation ’s tradition.

We ourselves relied extensively on Bowers when we concluded,in Barnes v.Glen Theatre, Inc.,501 U.S.560,569 (1991),that Indiana ’s public inde- cency statute furthered “a substantial government interest in protecting order and morality,”ibid.,(plurality opinion); see also id.,at 575 (SCALIA,J.,concurring in judgment). State laws against bigamy,same-sex marriage,adult incest,prostitution,masturbation,adultery,fornication, bestiality,and obscenity are likewise sustainable only in light of Bowers ’ validation of laws based on moral choices.. Every single one of these laws is called into question by today ’s decision;the Court makes no effort to cabin the scope of its decision to exclude them from its holding.

The impossibility of distinguish- ing homosexuality from other traditional “morals ” offenses is precisely why Bowers rejected the rational-basis chal- lenge.“The law,” it said,,“is constantly based on notions of morality,and if all laws representing essentially moral choices are to be invalidated under the Due Process Clause,the courts will be very busy indeed.”478 U.S.,at 196.

What a massive disruption of the current social order, therefore,the overruling of Bowers entails.Not so the overruling of Roe ,which would simply have restored the regime that existed for centuries before 1973,in which the permissibility of and restrictions upon abortion were determined legislatively State-by-State.Casey ,however, chose to base its stare decisis determination on a different “sort ” of reliance..“[P ]eople,”it said,“have organized intimate relationships and made choices that define their views of themselves and their places in society,in reliance on the availability of abortion in the event that contracep- tion should fail.”505 U.S.,at 856.

This falsely assumes that the consequence of overruling Roe would have been to make abortion unlawful.It would not;it would merely have permitted the States to do so.Many States would unquestionably have declined to prohibit abortion,and others would not have prohibited it within six months (after which the most significant reliance interests would have expired).

Even for persons in States other than these,the choice would not have been between abortion and childbirth,but between abortion nearby and abortion in a neighboring State.

To tell the truth,it does not surprise me,and should surprise no one,that the Court has chosen today to revise the standards of stare decisis set forth in Casey .It has thereby exposed Casey ’s extraordinary deference to prece- dent for the result-oriented expedient that it is.

Texas Penal Code Ann.§21.06(a)(2003)undoubtedly imposes constraints on liberty.So do laws prohibiting prostitution,recreational use of heroin,and,for that mat- ter,working more than 60 hours per week in a bakery. But there is no right to “liberty ”under the Due Process Clause,though today ’s opinion repeatedly makes that claim.Ante ,at 6 (“The liberty protected by the Constitu- tion allows homosexual persons the right to make this choice ”);ante ,at 13 (“‘These matters ...are central to the liberty protected by the Fourteenth Amendment ’”);ante , at 17 (“Their right to liberty under the Due Process Clause gives them the full right to engage in their conduct with- out intervention of the government ”).

The Fourteenth Amendment expressly allows States to deprive their citi- zens of “liberty,”so long as “due process of law ” is provided: “No state shall ...deprive any person of life,liberty, or property,without due process of law .”Amdt.14 (emphasis added).

Our opinions applying the doctrine known as “substan- tive due process ” hold that the Due Process Clause pro- hibits States from infringing fundamental liberty inter- ests,unless the infringement is narrowly tailored to serve a compelling state interest.Washington v.Glucksberg , 521 U.S.,at 721.We have held repeatedly,in cases the Court today does not overrule,that only fundamental rights qualify for this so-called “heightened scrutiny ” protection —that is,rights which are “‘deeply rooted in this Nation ’s history and tradition,’”.

Finally,I turn to petitioners ’equal-protection challenge, which no Member of the Court save JUSTICE O ’CONNOR, ante ,at 1 (opinion concurring in judgment),embraces:On its face §21.06(a)applies equally to all persons.Men and women,heterosexuals and homosexuals,are all subject to its prohibition of deviate sexual intercourse with someone of the same sex.To be sure,§21.06 does distinguish be- tween the sexes insofar as concerns the partner with whom the sexual acts are performed:men can violate the law only with other men,and women only with other women.But this cannot itself be a denial of equal protec-tion,since it is precisely the same distinction regarding partner that is drawn in state laws prohibiting marriage with someone of the same sex while permitting marriage with someone of the opposite sex.

The objection is made,however,that the antimiscegena- tion laws invalidated in Loving v.Virginia ,388 U.S.1,8 (1967),similarly were applicable to whites and blacks alike,and only distinguished between the races insofar as the partner was concerned.In Loving ,however,we cor- rectly applied heightened scrutiny,rather than the usual rational-basis review,because the Virginia statute was “designed to maintain White Supremacy.”Id.,at 6,11.A racially discriminatory purpose is always sufficient to subject a law to strict scrutiny,even a facially neutral law that makes no mention of race.See Washington v.Davis , 426 U.S.229,241 –242 (1976).No purpose to discriminate against men or women as a class can be gleaned from the Texas law,so rational-basis review applies.That review is readily satisfied here by the same rational basis that satisfied it in Bowers —society ’s belief that certain forms of sexual behavior are “immoral and unacceptable,”478 U.S.,at 196.This is the same justification that supports many other laws regulating sexual behavior that make a distinction based upon the identity of the partner — for example,laws against adultery,fornication,and adult incest,and laws refusing to recognize homosexual marriage.

Today ’s opinion is the product of a Court,which is the product of a law-profession culture,that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda,by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists di- rected at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct.I noted in an earlier opinion the fact that the American Association of Law Schools (to which any reputable law school must seek to belong)excludes from membership any school that refuses to ban from its job-interview facilities a law firm (no matter how small)that does not wish to hire as a prospective partner a person who openly engages in homo- sexual conduct.See Romer ,supra ,at 653.

One of the most revealing statements in today ’s opinion is the Court ’s grim warning that the criminalization of homosexual conduct is “an invitation to subject homosex- ual persons to discrimination both in the public and in the private spheres.”Ante ,at 14.It is clear from this that the Court has taken sides in the culture war,departing from its role of assuring,as neutral observer,that the demo- cratic rules of engagement are observed.Many Americans do not want persons who openly engage in homosexual conduct as partners in their business,as scoutmasters for their children,as teachers in their children ’s schools,or as boarders in their home.They view this as protecting themselves and their families from a lifestyle that they believe to be immoral and destructive.The Court views it as “discrimination ”which it is the function of our judg- ments to deter. So imbued is the Court with the law profession ’s anti-anti-homosexual culture,that it is seem- ingly unaware that the attitudes of that culture are not obviously “mainstream ”;that in most States what the Court calls “discrimination ” against those who engage in homosexual acts is perfectly legal;that proposals to ban such “discrimination ” under Title VII have repeatedly been rejected by Congress.

Let me be clear that I have nothing against homosexu- als,or any other group,promoting their agenda through normal democratic means.Social perceptions of sexual and other morality change over time,and every group has the right to persuade its fellow citizens that its view of such matters is the best.That homosexuals have achieved some success in that enterprise is attested to by the fact that Texas is one of the few remaining States that crimi- nalize private,consensual homosexual acts.But per- suading one ’s fellow citizens is one thing,and imposing one ’s views in absence of democratic majority will is some- thing else.I would no more require a State to criminalize homosexual acts —or,for that matter,display any moral disapprobation of them —than I would forbid it to do so. What Texas has chosen to do is well within the range of traditional democratic action,and its hand should not be stayed through the invention of a brand-new “constitu- tional right ” by a Court that is impatient of democratic change.It is indeed true that “later generations can see that laws once thought necessary and proper in fact serve only to oppress,”ante ,at 18;and when that happens,later generations can repeal those laws.But it is the premise of our system that those judgments are to be made by the people,and not imposed by a governing caste that knows best.

The matters appropriate for this Court ’s resolution are only three:Texas ’s prohibition of sodomy neither infringes a “fundamental right ” ((which the Court does not dispute), nor is unsupported by a rational relation to what the Constitution considers a legitimate state interest,nor denies the equal protection of the laws.I dissent.


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To: nwrep
"I turn to petitioners ’equal-protection challenge, which no Member of the Court save JUSTICE O ’CONNOR...embraces."

It's time for O'Connor to retire.
201 posted on 06/27/2003 3:05:43 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: PhiKapMom
"Really want more Republican Senators in 2004 so we can make Justice Scalia the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. That is one nomination that the Republicans in the Senate need to go to the matresses over."


Absolutely!

(attention Senate Republicans: she's not saying you need to go to sleep as per the usual, okay!?)
202 posted on 06/27/2003 3:07:15 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: Revel
"I heard on the radio the fact that the US has always recognized Canadian marriage licences. So the question remains what
happens when two homosexual Candians get married and move to the US? At this time it would seem that the US would have
to treat them as married. This will create havoc and unless states add laws protecting from this(X50+) then it will just be a fact
of life. But then if the states do so then what will the SC say? It is a real mess comming very soon."


I predict a major rush on Niagara Falls honeymoons this summer. ;)


203 posted on 06/27/2003 3:14:07 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We are a peaceful people. Yet we are not a fragile people.")
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To: Dimensio
Perhaps the other poster misstated his point. That probably confused me. It's possible the poster I responded to meant that he referred to Griswold in his dissent, which makes a lot more sense.
204 posted on 06/27/2003 5:09:08 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
The distinction between rights governed by the Federal compact and fundamental rights of self-governance reserved to the states has escaped you...Curious that you are able to divine my beliefs on gun control and AA...NOT! Move along! Democraticunderground is waiting for you...
205 posted on 06/27/2003 6:54:24 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis
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To: Skywalk
What the major pundits have missed on this debate -- even though Justice Scalia addressed it head on by warning of a major social "disruption" resulting from this ruling (to understand the veiled meaning of that warning one must read Fukuyama's book "The Great Disruption") -- is that the last such FUNDAMENTAL so-called "states' right" (really the right and liberty interest of the citizens of those states) "resolved" in this nation was slavery. The "resolution" required a civil war. More importantly, it was "resolved" -- constitutionally -- by an AMENDMENT rather than a judicial DIKTAT. The individual state governments ratified a 14th amendment giving the Feds the power to regulate on issues affecting the former slaves (expanded post facto to regulate on "race" generally). If the LEFT wants to pass an amendment prohibiting all regulation of moral and social issues as they affect interactions within the home they should just try to pass an Amendment (which we MUST resist). However, ALL -- conservatives and liberals who still value liberty should firmly resist the extreme LEFT's temptation to create a JUDICIAL DICTATORSHIP EFFECTIVELY CONTROLLED BY A SINGLE IDEOLOGY/PARTY NOMENKLATURA.

For Fukuyama's book...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/068484530X/002-0464355-7759202?vi=glance
206 posted on 06/27/2003 7:02:43 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis
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To: TLBSHOW
Bush will appoint a conservative to the Supreme Court - unless Carlos Rove has something to say about it. Rove is convinced that Hispanics will become a Republican voting bloc if only Bush appoints Alberto Gonzales.
207 posted on 06/27/2003 7:12:26 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: nwrep
What the major pundits have missed on this debate -- even though Justice Scalia addressed it head on by warning of a major social "disruption" resulting from this ruling (to understand the veiled meaning of that warning one must read Fukuyama's book "The Great Disruption") -- is that the last such FUNDAMENTAL so-called "states' right" (really the right and liberty interest of the citizens of those states) "resolved" in this nation was slavery. The "resolution" required a civil war. More importantly, it was "resolved" -- constitutionally -- by an AMENDMENT rather than a judicial DIKTAT. The individual state governments ratified a 14th amendment giving the Feds the power to regulate on issues affecting the former slaves (expanded post facto to regulate on "race" generally). If the LEFT wants to pass an amendment prohibiting all regulation of moral and social issues as they affect interactions within the home they should just try to pass an Amendment (which we MUST resist). However, ALL -- conservatives and liberals who still value liberty should firmly resist the extreme LEFT's temptation to create a JUDICIAL DICTATORSHIP EFFECTIVELY CONTROLLED BY A SINGLE IDEOLOGY/PARTY NOMENKLATURA.

For Fukuyama's book...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/068484530X/002-0464355-7759202?vi=glance
208 posted on 06/27/2003 7:53:37 PM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
Try not to be an ass.

Democraticunderground seems to be where you belong with that rude attitude.

I assume you are against gun control and AA, if not, why are YOU here?
209 posted on 06/27/2003 10:18:35 PM PDT by Skywalk
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210 posted on 06/28/2003 6:18:31 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: Skywalk
Now THAT's hypocrisy!
211 posted on 06/28/2003 10:33:26 AM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis
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