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Frist Endorses Idea of Gay Marriage Ban
AP ^ | 6/29/03 | WILLIAM C. MANN

Posted on 06/29/2003 4:01:09 PM PDT by Valin

WASHINGTON - The Senate majority leader said Sunday he supported a proposed constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage in the United States.
Sen. Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said the Supreme Court's decision last week on gay sex threatens to make the American home a place where criminality is condoned.

The court on Thursday threw out a Texas law that prohibited acts of sodomy between homosexuals in a private home, saying that such a prohibition violates the defendants' privacy rights under the Constitution. The ruling invalidated the Texas law and similar statutes in 12 other states.
"I have this fear that this zone of privacy that we all want protected in our own homes is gradually - or I'm concerned about the potential for it gradually being encroached upon, where criminal activity within the home would in some way be condoned," Frist told ABC's "This Week."
"And I'm thinking of - whether it's prostitution or illegal commercial drug activity in the home - ... to have the courts come in, in this zone of privacy, and begin to define it gives me some concern."

Asked whether he supported an amendment that would ban any marriage in the United States except a union of a man and a woman, Frist said: "I absolutely do, of course I do.
"I very much feel that marriage is a sacrament, and that sacrament should extend and can extend to that legal entity of a union between - what is traditionally in our Western values has been defined - as between a man and a woman. So I would support the amendment."

Same-sex marriages are legal in Belgium and the Netherlands. Canada's Liberal government announced two weeks ago that it would enact similar legislation soon.

Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, R-Colo., was the main sponsor of the proposal offered May 21 to amend the Constitution. It was referred to the House Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution on Wednesday, the day before the high court ruled.

As drafted, the proposal says:

"Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any state under state or federal law shall be construed to require that marital status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon unmarried couples or groups."
To be added to the Constitution, the proposal must be approved by two-thirds of the House and the Senate and ratified by three-fourths of the states.

Frist said Sunday he respects the Supreme Court decision but feels the justices overstepped their bounds.
"Generally, I think matters such as sodomy should be addressed by the state legislatures," Frist said. "That's where those decisions - with the local norms, the local mores - are being able to have their input in reflected.
"And that's where it should be decided, and not in the courts."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: activistcourt; activistsupremecourt; culturewar; downourthroats; gay; gaypride; gayprideparades; hedonism; homosexualagenda; libertines; samesexdisorder; samesexmarriages; schumer
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1 posted on 06/29/2003 4:01:09 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin
If we can get it through the Senate, it would pass. Most states have already banned Gay marraiges.
2 posted on 06/29/2003 4:05:28 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Valin
sound like frist may have recieved lots of phone calls this week after the prescription drug and supreme court boondoggles this past week. for he sounds like a conservative
3 posted on 06/29/2003 4:08:10 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: aimhigh
I like the idea, but I'd rather that they protect traditional marriage and define it as only being possible for a man and woman to enter into it, not use language that is a "ban".

Just basic politicing stuff, but its important to keep the spin off and make this a positive, example, not anti-abortion, but pro-life, stuff like would work here.

4 posted on 06/29/2003 4:08:32 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Valin; weegee; Polycarp; scripter
Finally! There is HOPE!
5 posted on 06/29/2003 4:19:52 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: aimhigh
I refuse to call homosexuals 'gay' or 'lesbian'.
I will not call pedophiles 'child lovers' or whatever euphemism they might come up with to soften their perversity.
6 posted on 06/29/2003 4:20:43 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Valin
And this matters, and is an issue of vital concern for the Federal Government because?????????

It doesn't increase national security.

It doesn't create a job.

It doesn't improve or increase infrastructure.

It isn't even going to benefit the actual homestead of social conservatives.

How about a little consistency here - if a state wants to legalize it, your precious 10th amendment should allow it, right? Because, after all, I've never heard a 10th amendment proponent ever argue for it on any basis other than to intrude on the lives of other people.

7 posted on 06/29/2003 4:24:52 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant
sound like frist may have recieved lots of phone calls

Gee ya think! :-)
8 posted on 06/29/2003 4:26:21 PM PDT by Valin (Humor is just another defense against the universe.)
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To: Sonny M
...Just basic politicing stuff, but its important to keep the spin off and make this a positive...
**

Excellent point!
9 posted on 06/29/2003 4:27:37 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Bush/Cheney in '04 and Tommy Daschole out the door)
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To: Valin
And while I'm at it - can anyone tell me why no one has ever used the 10th to increase freedoms to anyone?

Why is it always used as the basis for silly crap - from banning miscegenation, prohibiting blacks from participating in local commerce and stripping their voting rights, to prohibing vibrator sales as well as prohibiting sodomy, even among married heterosexuals.

10 posted on 06/29/2003 4:28:22 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Sonny M
not use language that is a "ban".

Besides, it makes little sense to speak of "banning" something that doesn't as yet even exist in America.

11 posted on 06/29/2003 4:29:17 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Antoninus; TheCrusader; onedoug; Calpernia; Bonaparte; yoe; TLBSHOW; MeeknMing
pingy for HOPE!
12 posted on 06/29/2003 4:29:17 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Valin
What about limiting the court's jurisdiction? Although it has never been tried (I think), I believe Cangress can do so, and it is already in our constitution.

Revoke ths SCOTUS jurisdiction on sexual matters.
13 posted on 06/29/2003 4:29:28 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Communists infiltrate unions. "Workers of the world, Unite!")
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To: Valin
Anyone ever read "The Constitution For The United States Of America"?

I doubt it, especially Mr Frist.

Try reading, it take about 11 minutes, "The Declatation Of The Thirteen Colonies." An odd, obscure, date is coming up 07-04-1776.
14 posted on 06/29/2003 4:30:06 PM PDT by ido_now
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To: Valin
Repubs showing BACKBONE! Yay!!!
15 posted on 06/29/2003 4:30:21 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Because the 10th Amendment took a REAL big hit last week.
Not that it's been in the best of shape for the last couple of decades.
16 posted on 06/29/2003 4:31:04 PM PDT by Valin (Humor is just another defense against the universe.)
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To: Valin
Once known as the love that dare not speak it's name .........

Now known as the love that won't shut the F up.
17 posted on 06/29/2003 4:31:55 PM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Tahoe3002
I refuse to call homosexuals 'gay' or 'lesbian'.
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I am with you on that. I stopped using "gay" about 3 years ago when I first came across the term "transgendered", the manufacture of which made me realize that their goal was to emotionally neutralize sexual aberrations by not using the correct terms.
18 posted on 06/29/2003 4:32:57 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Bush/Cheney in '04 and Tommy Daschole out the door)
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To: dennisw
Once known as the love that dare not speak it's name .........

Now known as the love that won't shut the F up.


**

LOL! And, sadly, so true.
19 posted on 06/29/2003 4:34:58 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Bush/Cheney in '04 and Tommy Daschole out the door)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Besides, it makes little sense to speak of "banning" something that doesn't as yet even exist in America.

Sort of, there are civil unions in vermont, and some other places. Since canada is getting it, it's pretty easy to say it can happen here. The problem is that if this is a law, it could go to scotus and be over turned, we might need a constitutional amendment to lock it down.

20 posted on 06/29/2003 4:35:04 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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