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Covert At The CIA
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| July 1, 2003
| Cliff Kincaid
Posted on 07/01/2003 5:25:26 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
Theres increasing speculation that CIA Director George Tenets job may be in jeopardy if the U.S. doesnt find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Perhaps the CIA has been more preoccupied with other matters. The CIA web site has a section on "Diversity in the CIA" that emphasizes the agencys involvement with ANGLE, which stands for the Agency Network for Gay and Lesbian Employees. This is "an outreach of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and trans-gendered employees providing internal networking support and education to the overall Agency regarding issues relating to sexual orientation and the workplace."
This year, however, there was no special event at the agency honoring Gay Pride Month. A CIA spokesman told us that the ANGLE group did not organize an event this year because it has been focusing on internal policies at the CIA that affect them. June 12 was celebrated by the group last year, and in 2000 it held an event featuring Congressman Barney Frank, who was reprimanded by the House years ago for his association with a gay prostitute.
Tenet has a statement on the CIA web site that declares, "I regard our diversity as a powerful tool that can help us meet the intelligence challenges of the coming century." Tenet has made advancing diversity an important part of his Strategic Direction planning. He is determined to increase the CIAs diversity and "to use the many talents of the men and women who are already with us to optimum advantage."
That sounds rather strange in light of the fact that "diversity" is the concept that helped bring on the Jayson Blair scandal at the New York Times. When the Times put too much emphasis on diversity, its journalistic product suffered. Perhaps the CIA and other government agencies have suffered in their missions by emphasizing diversity over doing the jobs they are assigned to do, such as protecting the American people from terrorism and finding weapons of mass destruction.
Promoting diversity at the CIA has meant giving rights to the "transgendered." On that note, the Cinemax Cable channel celebrated Gay Pride Month by airing "No Dumb Questions," a film about "transgender pride" that features daughters ages 6, 9 and 11 learning why and how their Uncle Bill is becoming Aunt Barbara. Rep. Porter J. Goss, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and a CIA operative in the 1960s, has said that he is ambivalent about openly homosexual intelligence officers. Goss said, "I'm not going to make a moral judgment whether it's a good thing or a bad thing."
But the transgender aspect to "gay pride" puts this whole push for diversity at the CIA into an even more ludicrous light. Can anybody imagine a man dressed like a woman making an effective CIA agent? This is all possible today because President Bill Clinton signed an executive order in August 1995 prohibiting the denial of security clearances "solely on the basis of the sexual orientation of the employee." Hillary Clintons new book is full of references to how wonderful diversity is. The media and George Tenet -- agree with her.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: angle; cia; clintonholdovers; diversityquilts; executiveorder; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; securityclearance; tenet; x42
Sack the Clintonista Tenet!
To: Tailgunner Joe
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Rep. Porter J. Goss, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and a CIA operative in the 1960s, has said that he is ambivalent about openly homosexual intelligence officers. Goss said, "I'm not going to make a moral judgment whether it's a good thing or a bad thing." Oh, that's ok. The Catholic Church wasn't ambivalent about openly homosexual priests and look at all the good that came from that!
To: Tailgunner Joe
Our nation needs excellence from male and female employees, and sexually challenged individuals should not be involved in sensitive national matters.
To: Tailgunner Joe
Goss said, "I'm not going to make a moral judgment whether it's a good thing or a bad thing." Neither did MI5 and the British Foreign Office, to their everlasting embarrassment.
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posted on
07/01/2003 5:34:33 PM PDT
by
Loyalist
(Keeper of the Schismatic Orc Ping List. Freepmail me if you want on or off it.)
To: Enterprise
Let's not be silly. There is some homosexuality in the Catholic Church, as there is everywhere else these days, but homosexuality is not officially supported and approved by the Catholic Church. Only by sinners and dissenters.
It is evidently officially supported by the governing authorities in the CIA, however.
This is not the only reason to remove Tenet, either. He has been a clintonoid mole from the very first.
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posted on
07/01/2003 5:36:13 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Tailgunner Joe
ANGLE, which stands for the Agency Network for Gay and Lesbian Employees. This is "an outreach of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and trans-gendered employees providing internal networking support and education to the overall Agency regarding issues relating to sexual orientation and the workplace." ,,, a celebration of asset management.
To: Cicero
I did NOT write that homosexuality was openly supported by the Catholic Church.
To: thinktwice
"Sexually challenged"?
And being homosexual has what to do with a persons ability gathering intelligence? Guess what, we have gay people in EVERY profession including the soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places. Because you don't approve of their private lifestyle, doesn't mean they are handicapped.
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posted on
07/01/2003 5:47:59 PM PDT
by
Normal4me
To: Tailgunner Joe
Yes, I'm sure PR in the pursuit of diversity is why
no WMDs have been found yet. I thought DUers came
up with pathetic garbage, but this is so puerile a
kind of grandeur creeps into it.
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posted on
07/01/2003 5:51:52 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: Tailgunner Joe
I enjoy reading about the CIA and enjoy the whole idea of what the CIA is capable of operationally but this story is extremely disheartening to me. Despicable IMO.
To: gcruse
Maybe if our intelligence community was doing it's job instead of knitting diversity quilts and taking brainwashing sessions on sodomy sensitivity, then we wouldn't be experiencing the unpleasant consequences of this massive intelligence failure.
To: Normal4me
And being homosexual has what to do with a persons ability gathering intelligence? A lot. If they are assigned to the Office of Diversity Management with a staff of 10 planning "Gay Pride Month", that is 11 people who are NOT gathering intelligence.
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posted on
07/01/2003 5:57:07 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Tailgunner Joe
R U F'n K M???!!!???
To: Tailgunner Joe
Yeah, I'm sure that was the cause of the failure.
You bet.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:03:07 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: Tailgunner Joe
While you're at it, let's hear it for Ashcroft. In the weeks FOLLOWING 9/11, he kept FBI agents in New Orleans investigating whore houses. Then there's the hassling of medical marujuana users in states where it is legal. How did any of that help in the war on terrorism?
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:07:21 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: Tailgunner Joe
The sooner the legacy of the straight white man is ancient history and long forgotten, the better the world will be.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:09:01 PM PDT
by
takenoprisoner
(stand for freedom or get the helloutta the way)
To: gcruse
Who knows? We can't kick out jihadists from our military because that wouldn't be PC. We can't let the public know the beltway sniper is black because that might lead to racial profiling. We can't fire a CIA agent who says he won't spy on Muslims because that's his religion.
With this kind of PC brain death pervading every facet of our federal government, who knows how many CIA agents have been compromised or turned against us because of their sexual urges and their loyalty to a perverse and subversive political agenda?
To: gcruse
To: Tailgunner Joe
Hopefully, the stigmatizing is lifting, and sexual preference won't be a blackmailable item much longer. At any rate, we want the best people in the best positions to get the job done. What they do when they go to bed at night shouldn't enter into it.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:14:00 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: Tailgunner Joe
So legalize the drugs and the terrorism will go away.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:15:04 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
No, then we will be in league with the narco-terrorists and complicit in their crimes.
Destroy the narco-terrorists the drugs and the terrorism will go away.
To: gcruse
Sure, now it's the Christian "Homophobe" who will be blackmailed and turn against the perverse sodomite government that God has condemned. Oh but we can run all those intolerant bigots out of the CIA to make room for more gays, right?
To: Tailgunner Joe
Are we in league with bootleggers since Prohibition was lifted?
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:22:27 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: Normal4me
Homosexuals are not only sexually challenged, they are also -- unfortunately -- emotionally and socially challenged.
To: Tailgunner Joe
Are you addled? I don't do addled.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:23:20 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
he kept FBI agents in New Orleans investigating whore houses. Then there's the hassling of medical marujuana users in states where it is legal. How did any of that help in the war on terrorism? Why that is a government secret, silly. They will release the information in fifty years, or so. You must not have faith.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:28:05 PM PDT
by
RJCogburn
("Who knows what's in a man's heart?".....Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
To: RJCogburn
Look, RJ, seriously. I'll be dead in a lot less than fifty years, so I hope you take real good notes when the time comes.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:29:59 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
You're the one who wants to give free reign to narco-terrorists to enslave the minds of our children while entrusting our safety to people less concerned with gathering intelligence than with their right to perform unnatural acts.
You are the one who's addled.
To: Tailgunner Joe
If you really believe what you said in #22, the post to which I was responding, then you are addled and beyond intellegent discussion.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:33:56 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
So we have to be tolerant of homosexuals, but not of Christians who believe homosexuality is wrong?
To: Tailgunner Joe
As long as the homophobic Christians do not act on or cause the state to act on their phobias, it, like racism, is perfectly fine. Your #22 goes way, way beyond that.
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:44:39 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
You admitted that gays were targets of blackmail.
By taking sides on this issue the government is threatening to compromise the loyalty of those "homophobes" (moral Christians) who can't comply with sodomy sensitivity training.
To: Tailgunner Joe
By taking sides on this issue the government is threatening to compromise the loyalty of those "homophobes" (moral Christians) who can't comply with sodomy sensitivity training.
What does compromising their loyalty mean? If a CIA homophobe
has to work alongside a lesbian, is he going to go over the Osama or something?
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posted on
07/01/2003 6:54:44 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
Homosexuals have been a security threat in the past. By switching sides and endorsing homosexual behavior, the government is removing the onus from homosexuals and onto Christians.
I think as long as we have a government that endorses anti-Christian behavior and an anti-Christian political agenda, then they should consider Christians as a possible security threat.
To: Tailgunner Joe
I favor the philosophy of "don't ask don't tell." Private matters are afterall private matters.
Enlist/hire the candidate based on the qualifications sought and not based on any other mandated preference.
At the same time, to promote/advertise for hire people of color(specific) or people of perverted persuasion(specific) is biased and unfair to people of a different color and a different persuasion. Moreover despite recent supreme court assertions otherwise, the SC is currently making decisions based on "the better good of society" to the detriment of Constitutional Law.
Course they claim it's only a temporary remedy/violation for "the better good" of society.
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posted on
07/01/2003 7:12:30 PM PDT
by
takenoprisoner
(stand for freedom or get the helloutta the way)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Homosexuals have been a security threat in the
past. By switching sides and endorsing homosexual behavior,...
...then that threat goes away.
the government is removing the onus from homosexuals and onto Christians.
How does that work? Onus on Christians to do what?
Can a person of religion not work for a secular employer?
Is the bar to treason so low that you would go over to the terrorists
rather than work with a lesbian? Or even know that fags
lived together openly? I guess what I'm asking is this.
"Is a common hatred all that holds Christians loyal to the US?"
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posted on
07/01/2003 7:17:21 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
You are the one who thinks that condemning perversion is hatred. Those of us who believe in right and wrong know that it is nothing more than Christian love to expose the depravity of willful sin and exhort the sinner to repentance.
Is hatred of Christian values the only thing that hold sodomites loyal to the U.S.?
To: Tailgunner Joe
Beats me. I don't see any more anti-Americanism in homosexuals than straights. It's the Christians in your scenario whose loyalty to their country could be compromised by the recognizing the lifestyle of others.
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posted on
07/01/2003 7:26:17 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
Sure, I don't expect you to object to considering intolerant homophobe fundie bigots a security threat. Let's just be sure to coddle the sodomites whose perversion has proven to be a security threat in the past.
This is just like your solution to the drug use epidemic.
"Let's just make it legal and the problem will go away."
To: Tailgunner Joe
Maybe so. I have this thing for liberty and responsibility.
Thanks for the dialogue, Joe.
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posted on
07/01/2003 7:43:27 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: gcruse
I think everyone should be responsible for their choices and their behavior.
To: thinktwice
"Homosexuals are not only sexually challenged, they are also -- unfortunately -- emotionally and socially challenged.Well, you will always be welcomed around here because this a non-homophobic place and we don't believe in racism either. Try to keep an open mind and all that stuff....
To: Tailgunner Joe
"Ugly Naked Freaks on Toronto Streets:Gay "Pride" Free Dominion ^ | 07-02-03 | FD member "Trouble" Posted on 07/02/2003 5:09 PM PDT by backhoe" I posted 'Great recruiting grounds for the CIA" on this article. I saw the pictures and started laughing as I thought of the defense of gays by the posters on your thread.
To: Tailgunner Joe; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; Luis Gonzalez; ...
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posted on
07/23/2004 6:46:50 PM PDT
by
Smartass
( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
To: Smartass
To: Smartass
Great cartoon! Is it just me, or did Cagle spell that "Democtats"???
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posted on
07/24/2004 4:30:33 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: MeekOneGOP

"Is it just me, or did Cagle spell that "Democtats"???"
No it's not you. Definitely their typo.
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posted on
07/24/2004 2:46:19 PM PDT
by
Smartass
( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
To: Smartass
I can't recall ever seeing a typo like that in a cartoon before. Amazing.
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posted on
07/25/2004 6:59:32 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: MeekOneGOP
Amazing how jounalists with English degress flop.
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posted on
07/25/2004 11:13:09 AM PDT
by
Smartass
( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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