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No Troops To Liberia (Vanity)

Posted on 07/02/2003 3:15:35 PM PDT by faithincowboys

We're all ready over-extended, it is vital we do what's needed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Adding Liberia to our list of responsibilities is insane. On the heels on the huge expanision of entitlements, this President is not doing what he should. He gets no credit for letting Ted Kennedy write the Education bill, $15 billion to African anti-Aids effots gets him nothing but dissed by Mandela. Sending our boys to Liberia will result in a Somailia or Beirut incident-- the American people and the military families don't want this. Also Bush will not win any points from the liberal media. It seems like he is determined to relive his father's experience. Isn't a humanitarian force to Liberia very similar to the Somailia op in his father's term? What's next a plan to puke on Japanese dignitaries? Karl Rove needs to get a clue.

Bush needs to restrain spending, stop placating the liberals, understand that the liberals in the media are committed to his destruction and that no amount of Alan ALda/Jimmy Carter humanitarian bs in Africa is gonna make the media like him, also he needs to stop screwing with the farmers in Klamath Falls, Oregon-- the media is gonna portray him as an anti-environment nut anyway.

Bush and Co. need to do what's right, stick to priniciple, understand their enemy, and stop the bs. Get serious.


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1 posted on 07/02/2003 3:15:36 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
It is going to happen.

I think that we should seriously comsider pulling out of Germany and S. Korea. We are not accomplishing anything there except for propping up the economies of those ingrate Countries.
2 posted on 07/02/2003 3:20:29 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Radix
I think it's a mistake and I hope it's not a fait acompli.
3 posted on 07/02/2003 3:22:10 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
Its going to happen..
4 posted on 07/02/2003 3:22:51 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
Pray tell, why is Africa so dysfunctional? And why should we care? 15 billion dollars down a rathole is enough price to pay for awhile-- I don't think one soldier should die for a continent that is committed to its own destruction.

No Thanks!
5 posted on 07/02/2003 3:25:28 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
Sending our boys to Liberia will result in a Somailia or Beirut incident--

This is nonsense.

The former ambassador to Liberia was just now on Special Edition with Brit Hume, and he said a small force could do the job.

The Liberians WANT the Americans in; there's just a small group in the government that are propping up Charles Taylor.

Someone (or many) need to tell him to go to Nigeria, which has signaled it would take him.

In fact, the amabassador thinks just the talk of going in may do the trick.

People are being slaughtered, and, in this case, a small expenditure of men and material can resolve a horrible situtation.

We're going to go.

6 posted on 07/02/2003 3:30:23 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: faithincowboys
Why not troops? Heck, we're sending the Africans $15 billion to supposedly be blown on Aids and dictators.
7 posted on 07/02/2003 3:31:26 PM PDT by roderick
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You ready to go?

BS. I don't think we should have sent the 15 bill, and we're presently busy if you hadn't noticed!
8 posted on 07/02/2003 3:33:46 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: sinkspur
It looks bad to me. Bands of cold-blooded armed killers driving around in pickups,and despite what that man said-- they will shoot at our people in a minute. Sorry, I've seen this movie before and I'm not buying. No vital American interest. The former Americans who run that country should sink or swim on their own!
9 posted on 07/02/2003 3:36:29 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
Uhmmmm, don't get me wrong here but what you say is insane. The war in Afghanistan, Iraq, and anywhere else at this moment is not about WMD's, bad dictators, human rights abuses, suicide bombers, and accept it.

We are at war because of pitiful pacifism and the deep rooted damage it has done to our country and it's security. We blow stuff up and kill people in order to make countries at play today understand we mean what we say. Doing so today will assure our peace for the future. Americans confused the gangs occupying the badlands of the globe since the early 80's. We gave them the tacit go-ahead to do what they will by saying, "please don't do that or we'll be disappointed, and then please don't do that or we might reduce your foreign aide, and if you'll listen to us we'll increase your foreign aide" ad nauseum for twenty years now! The North Korean mess is our doing for being indecisive, transmitting confusing signals, codifying awful governments in the name of cultural respect, and so on......

The cure for this indifference to American requests made in a reasonable, calm fashion, respecting a nation's sovereignty and peoples is to use diplomacy just once and do it loud and clear. If they think we are doing that same o'l carrot-stick routine, destroy them back into the stone age. It's better for us and less confusing to them.

We really do confuse the world with our silly preoccupation with compassion. Not one dictator or Marxist regime in the world gives a wit about compassion, puppies, children, or hunger. To the rest of the world, peoples are an enormous expenditure that is the first to go when expenditures exceed the cost of a new palace or a boatload of long dong II missiles. Their only value is to lay their bloated dead corpses in the street for American media, the BBC, and Al-Jazeera. Who or what killed them is irrelevant. They are off the books.

10 posted on 07/02/2003 3:42:11 PM PDT by blackdog (Who weeps for the tuna?)
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Well, I disagree-- WMD, terrorism, et al are precisely why we are in Afghanistan and Iraq.

All, I'm saying is-- No troops to Liberia!! Al Qaeda will hit us hard there and there is not a damn thing in it for us!
11 posted on 07/02/2003 3:46:49 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
I doubt that we are overextended, but I cannot think of any vital US interest at stake in Liberia. Can anyone else?
12 posted on 07/02/2003 3:51:32 PM PDT by kesg
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To: sinkspur
There should be no such thing as a small expenditure of men or assets when it comes to military action. That's what makes the expenditures become expired.

The world is watching this, and it's the ones who would do us harm to see if we can spread only so far. If even the possibility of US troops being requested hits the gossip column of the globe, not going causes our enemies to start planning. They make calculations based on our capacity to wage war. Our enemies need to know for their own good that we have a limitless capacity to go to war at any place at any time and in any numbers.

13 posted on 07/02/2003 3:54:04 PM PDT by blackdog (Who weeps for the tuna?)
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To: faithincowboys
Thank you for making my argument! Didn't we say we will hunt down terrorists and specifically Al-Queda to every corner of the earth?

If we know Al-Queda is in Liberia and do not go there to kill, what message does that send to the Arab world?

You need to understand these people. They do not watch television, cut the lawn on saturday, go to little league games, or do anything with their waking hours but wage war on a target. They must be dealt with no matter how unpleasant.

14 posted on 07/02/2003 3:58:52 PM PDT by blackdog (Who weeps for the tuna?)
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To: faithincowboys
Let the Israelis go. Then the Liberians could blame all their problems on the jews, just like the Arabs do.
15 posted on 07/02/2003 4:01:54 PM PDT by tkathy
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To: faithincowboys
If Al Qaeda is there then we need to be there wiping them out dontcha think?
16 posted on 07/02/2003 4:07:18 PM PDT by kuma
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To: blackdog
I'm not saying they are there. I am saying they will go there. I guarantee you that some of the factions will gladly accept money from the terrorists to kill our soldiers!!!
17 posted on 07/02/2003 4:07:57 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys
Better there than here. Draw your enemy out. Never stop. It's easier and more efficient to do it with Hellfires and 50 caliber rounds than to ask them to please not jaywalk in Manhattan on their way to blow up a few thousand more people in our country.
18 posted on 07/02/2003 4:11:34 PM PDT by blackdog (Who weeps for the tuna?)
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To: faithincowboys
Get used to it, mate. Tyranny anywhere needs to be opposed with all available means. I would go without hesitation if called to serve.
19 posted on 07/02/2003 4:11:34 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Road Map = Road Kill)
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To: thoughtomator
Go down to the recruiter, they could use a gung ho guy like you!
20 posted on 07/02/2003 4:15:26 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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