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Kids’ Parade’s fatediscussed by all sides (Gays want in)
The Honolulu Star Bulletin ^ | 07/03/02003 | Craig Gima

Posted on 07/03/2003 9:28:10 AM PDT by Spyder

Kids’ Parade’s fate discussed by all sides

By Craig Gima cgima@starbulletin.com

Participants and organizers of this Saturday's Kids' Parade met yesterday in a city conference room to discuss the details of an event that may not take place.

The Hawaii Christian Coalition, which is organizing the parade with city help, has said it will cancel the parade if a federal judge rules today that three gay rights groups must be allowed to march in it.

Members of gay rights groups denied permission to march in the parade also attended yesterday's weekly planning meeting of organizers and participants at Honolulu Hale.

William Woods, of the Gay and Lesbian Education and Advocacy Foundation, asked city Deputy Managing Director Malcolm Tom if the city was considering his organization's offer to sponsor the parade if the Hawaii Christian Coalition pulls out.

"It's all hypothetical," Tom responded. "When it (the judge's ruling) happens, we'll decide then."

After the meeting, Woods said if the city continues to support the parade and if the other participants show up, the event will be a better and more inclusive celebration.

But it was unclear how many of those signed up to march in the parade would show up if the GLEA Foundation was the sponsor.

"It's very confusing over here," said Henry Chu, chairman of the Lung Kong Physical Culture Club, which is scheduled to provide lion dancers for the parade. "I don't side with anybody. I just want to do the right thing for the community."

Mary Esther Correa, of Los Amigos Ballet Folklorico, said she will not bring her students, ages 5 to 17, to the parade if the gay rights groups win in court.

"I'm not against gays and I'm not against any religion, but I don't want to have my students exposed to something that I don't feel is right," she said.

Also yesterday, the city filed an additional argument in federal court to support their position that the gay rights groups can be denied permission to march because the city is not a sponsor of the event.

In court papers, Mayor Jeremy Harris said, "I have directed that the city not provide any support or services for the Kids' Parade that was not provided for the (Gay) Pride Parade" last Saturday.

Harris also said the idea for the parade originated with the Hawaii Christian Coalition.

But American Civil Liberties Union attorney Brent White said the files of city administrator Alvin Au, a co-chairman of the parade, show the city began planning the parade back in April, and at that time the Hawaii Christian Coalition was not listed as a sponsor.

"This (parade) is the city's concept," White said.

Whether the city is a sponsor of the parade is a key legal point because the city cannot discriminate against the gay rights groups.

The ACLU filed the suit against the city on behalf of the three gay advocacy groups that are asking to be allowed to march in the parade.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: ageappropriate; comeforyourchildren; downourthroats; gay; gaydays; gaypride; gayprideparades; gayprideparasde; gayrecruitment; glaad; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; lesbian; parade
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To: Dan from Michigan
It's this BS that bugs me more than anything else with the homo lobbies. LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE!

Hanging out with kids is just an exercise by the homosexuals of their reproductive rights.


21 posted on 07/03/2003 9:55:52 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: johniegrad
"Sounds more like they want to impale the public with their bedrooms"

"Impale"? was that a Freudian slip?
22 posted on 07/03/2003 10:01:01 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: wardaddy
The plunge continues.
24 posted on 07/03/2003 10:16:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Spyder
"Can't think of a better way to further alienate the public..."

Excellent!! Let them cavort and prance. ;^)
25 posted on 07/03/2003 10:17:28 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: ClearCase_guy
maybe some straights should dress up in leather outfits and behave in completely unacceptable ways

Dude, they're not going to need to. The gay advocacy/NAMBLA crowd has that covered already.

These guys(?) must have the granpappy of all tin ears. The average American thinks they deserve to be left in peace, but draws the line at the "right" of access to children that this William Woods and his fellow peds want.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

26 posted on 07/03/2003 10:17:41 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Spyder
I just had this hilarious vision of a pissed-off 13 year-old carrying a sign that says "My dad's a fag and won't buy me a Gameboy".
27 posted on 07/03/2003 10:18:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Dilly
How about the local heterosexual S&M club. Is it also their right to have a float in a kid's parade?

And what would be their purpose? Recruitment?

As at the March for Life, homosexuals should simply have marched as parents or proponents of children but alas, it doesn't serve their agenda.

28 posted on 07/03/2003 10:20:56 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Spyder
Since homosexuals cannot reproduce, they must recruit. The only reason these perverts want in on the parade is so they can have access to the kids for recruitment. It's sick.

>> Mary Esther Correa, of Los Amigos Ballet Folklorico, said she will not bring her students, ages 5 to 17, to the parade if the gay rights groups win in court. <<

It would be a shame for the kids to miss what sounds like a cool event, but Mary Correa is dead right here. I would not want my kids around such perversion (not that I have any kids...yet).
29 posted on 07/03/2003 10:23:18 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Character is doing the right thing when nobody is looking. – JC Watts)
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To: jwalsh07
As at the March for Life, homosexuals should simply have marched as parents or proponents of children but alas, it doesn't serve their agenda.

Might be amusing to see that radical anti-gay anti-American preacher that likes to have his minions stomp on the flag at anti-gay rallies (and whose name escapes me at the moment) try marching in a Gay Pride Parade and see if the ACLU tries protecting HIS freedom of speech.

30 posted on 07/03/2003 10:26:43 AM PDT by Spyder (Just another day in Paradise)
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To: Spyder
GLEA is an affiate Group of Glsen.

These tapes will shock you with what homosexuals want to do with your children.

homosexuals want your kids.

cut and paste this link if you can't get the tapes to work:

http://www.stevekaneshow.com/glstapes.htm

THE SECRET GLSEN RAINBOW TAPE FILES.

On March 25, 2000 the Massachusetts Departments of Education and Health teamed up with the national gay and lesbian group GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network) and conducted a conference for school children and educators.

This seminar was secretly taped with excerpts provided here, hosted by Scott Whiteman of the 'Parent's Rights Coalition'.

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THE SEGMENTS

TIME

Listen Introducing the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network (4:15)
Listen Helping to Put Children into Sexual Exploratory Mode (3:54)
Listen Gay Straight Alliance, Coming to a School Near You (2:25)
Listen What Your Child Can Do On An All Out Sex Date (4:40)
Listen Teaching Children to Try Lesbianism (3:37)
Listen Children Learn About 'Fisting' and More (5:35)
Listen Don't Knock Homosexuality Until You've Tried It (8:01)

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31 posted on 07/03/2003 10:33:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Spyder
GLAAD appears to be "empowered" by the recent court decision, and I would say they're moving in for the KILL anywhere they can. The best response would be for everyone to ignore their antics, let them do what they want and just pretend they are not there. When the wind is taken out of their sails, then we can start pushing back.
32 posted on 07/03/2003 10:36:17 AM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Spyder
The gays had a parade the week before and they still can't leave it alone and let the kids have their parade.

Sickos.
33 posted on 07/03/2003 10:36:19 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Spyder; All
this is the direct site:

http://www.forthechildreninc.com/issues/homosexuality/TheAgenda/MAsituation.html

note the one section uging CHILDREN to "try bad-ism."

These are the recruiters who want in on a childrens parade.

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34 posted on 07/03/2003 10:37:43 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Spyder
This would give quite a different viewpoint to this judge and many newsgroups if the name of the gay rights group was Alternative to Natural Copulation Rights Association ...or if it were a group dedicated to make humping animals legal. Too many Americans are getting comfortable with the word "Gay". It should be Butt Pirates. That gives it a little more accuracy.
35 posted on 07/03/2003 10:38:55 AM PDT by m1-lightning (My physics teacher's definition of a Democrat - Anything that has weight and takes up space.)
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To: TaxRelief
Ignoring them as they try and recruit children is the victory they want. The want to achieve normalization of their SEXUAL BEHAVIOR in order to be free to go after new sex partners in the form of young frech recruits.
36 posted on 07/03/2003 10:39:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: m1-lightning
calling them but pirats is an insult to pirates and an insult to people with attractive posteriors.

Just call them sodomites, the are defined by their sex act. Or just call them homosexuals.

BTW: Homosexuals are objecting to the term "sexual preference"; they fear the public may take the term to imply change is possible. It is, and that is a badly kept secret they are trying to keep in the closet.
37 posted on 07/03/2003 10:43:14 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Spyder
Why would gay groups want to be in a kids' parade?

Oh, it's a recruiting opportunity. How could I have forgotten?

38 posted on 07/03/2003 10:43:44 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: ClearCase_guy
"It's probably inadvisable, but if the Parade is forced to include gays, then maybe some straights should dress up in leather outfits and behave in completely unacceptable ways while in the parade. Show the public that these are NOT folks you want around your kids."

Won't need to. The gays will already be doing that.

39 posted on 07/03/2003 10:44:55 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Dilly
"But if the parade is (or was originally) a city affair, then state law precludes the city from excluding groups based on political beliefs."

Political beliefs? It's a kid's parade for crying out loud.

40 posted on 07/03/2003 10:45:47 AM PDT by MEGoody
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