Judge Allows Evidence Against Nichols

"...Cadigan testified that each bit lives a unique mark because of variances in manufacturing and use."

This is the first time that I have ever heard of a drill bit being used in a court case for evidence. Does anyone have any input on this matter?

Watch out people Terry is gonna get the chair in part because of the funky science of drilling evidence.

1 posted on 07/05/2003 2:54:56 PM PDT by OutSpot

2 posted on 07/05/2003 2:59:24 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)

To: honway; judicial meanz; Fred Mertz; MizSterious; Wallaby; okie01; thinden

3 posted on 07/05/2003 3:00:33 PM PDT by OutSpot

He should get the chair.

He is as guilty as sin.

There is a reason why an investigative reporter in the south (not Jayna Davis, somebody else) stumbled upon evidence that he met with terrorists in the Philippines.

4 posted on 07/05/2003 3:03:15 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)

To: rwfromkansas

I think he's guilty too, but I really wish we could know the whole story. I know someone will quickly hand me a tinfoil hat (from experience), but I don't think it was just two goofs and some fertilizer.

5 posted on 07/05/2003 4:08:29 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)

From the Waco Museum Website regarding the WTC Bombing:

"Sewage pipes in the skyscraper broke during the explosion. depositing 80 gallons of sewage throughout the wreckage.

The Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) asked Dr. Whitehurst to analyze some of this sewage, thinking it was an explosive substance. "Transcript. pg. 16333".

Dr. Whitehurst concluded that there was no sound scientific basis for the government's public claim that a urea nitrate bomb had been the source of the explosion. When he refused to recant or to doctor his reports to support the urea nitrate bomb theory, the FBI used an unqualified lab technician to testify that the so-called urea nitrate found at the scene was consistent with a urea nitrate bomb.

Dr. Whitehurst submitted two blind test samples to the lab technician. Whitehurst had prepared one sample by urinating into a laboratory flask. The other was a sample of commercial grade fertilizer prepared by FBI Agent Burmeister. The lab technician found that both samples tested positive for urea nitrate, the explosive component of the infamous fertilizer bomb. In other words, Dr. Whitehurst proved that the lab technician, like the ATF, couldn't tell a bomb from sewage. The following pages are taken from the transcript of the New York trial for the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993.

6 posted on 07/05/2003 4:34:53 PM PDT by Howie

I wish so as well.

I am actually in the process of trying to get in contact with Jayna Davis to see if she could help me in my investigation (if she could point me to where she obtained her public records et). If I could come up with probably 3 documents that are pretty damaging and locate them on my own, I would do a story on it for the college paper......likely taking up almost all the front page. Her research needs to see the light of day and I wish more professional journalists and people in Congress would bother to listen to her and research on their own. My resources are limited, which is why I am trying to seek Jayna's advice because I want to get this story out but my standards of printing anything on this matter are high. I will not print one word if I am just grabbing stuff from other people.

7 posted on 07/05/2003 4:57:42 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)

Was Whitehurst involved with the OKC bombing?

I recognize the name, but everything runs together since I have read so many threads on this subject.

8 posted on 07/05/2003 5:01:37 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)

To: rwfromkansas

He was the FBI lab whistle-blower. I think he was "retired' before OKC but a Google search would tell for sure.

9 posted on 07/05/2003 6:27:20 PM PDT by Howie

To: Howie; aristeides; honway

In other words, Dr. Whitehurst proved that the lab technician, like the ATF, couldn't tell a bomb from sewage.

This is one reason I distrust whatever the FBI crime lab is pressured to produce.

10 posted on 07/06/2003 12:20:36 PM PDT by Fred Mertz

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