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DAN STEIN is executive director of the Federation for American Immigration Reform - FAIR. He wrote this for the Mercury News.
1 posted on 07/08/2003 11:25:13 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 07/08/2003 11:25:43 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FR . "California-Fighting the rising tide of socialism" . http://www.DRAFTTom.com)
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3 posted on 07/08/2003 11:26:50 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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Actually, the average cost of primary education in California is more like $7,500 per child.
4 posted on 07/08/2003 11:29:35 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: NormsRevenge
Great article.
5 posted on 07/08/2003 11:31:53 AM PDT by Eva
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Too bad nobody in Silicon Valley will care about this article. They're too interested in "Diversity" down there.
7 posted on 07/08/2003 11:46:54 AM PDT by superloser
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Great Article.

This is what the right often forgets. Low wages cost the taxpayers of this nation a great deal. Wall-Mart like companies pay so little that most of their hard working employees receive tons of bennifits from the tax payers. They receive Food Stamps (up to $500 / month), energy assistance (up to $200 / month) free medical care for their children ($500 / child / month) a Tax Refund of $4,000 / year on taxes they didn't pay. They recieve free care for them selves and many other bennifite if they get really sick and need long term Hospital care.

This means that $6.04 / hour is costing the taxpayers of the nation another $5.00 / hour or so.

Does Wall-Mart and all other low wage paying employers really need this kind of Welfare???
9 posted on 07/08/2003 11:58:42 AM PDT by ImphClinton
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Good article but this is nonsense...

There is no simple or single explanation for the kind of gaping budget deficit currently facing California

Can you say "Too much SPENDING?

10 posted on 07/08/2003 11:59:06 AM PDT by Drango (Just 5ยข a day will end pledge drives on FreeRepublic.)
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I'm shocked this was in the murky news. SHOCKED! Is it in the print edition? Will Dan Stein have to go to jail for un-pc views?
11 posted on 07/08/2003 12:01:24 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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what a lousy choice........hire an illegal for low wage cash or hire a citizen and pay enough fees and taxes to make it impossible to make a profit. When wages, pay scales, and taxes become more realistic, employers will no longer have to seek out ways to keep costs down and profits up.........the problem needs to be addressed from the other end.......cutting down on over-regulation and never-ending govermental fees will greatly reduce the demand for cheap cash labor.......
14 posted on 07/08/2003 12:07:36 PM PDT by sfvgt
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DAN STEIN is executive director of the Federation for American Immigration Reform - FAIR. He wrote this for the Mercury News.

I am utterly AMAZED the SJ Fishwrap News printed this, as there is no publication on the planet more mindlessly wedded to the dogma of 'diversity' & worse, open borders. Except maybe the LA Times & the WSJ.

18 posted on 07/08/2003 12:18:12 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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It's easy to demonize a group of people, but it's even harder to confront our own demons.

We have schools that don't teach, roads that are worse than those in a third-world country, and a welfare system that prepetuates an eternal underclass.

And yet we're not thinking about these problems; we're thinking about a bunch of people who we feel are overrunning our country like cockroaches.

Well, they may be. But if they are the punch in the nose that makes us get our own house in order, perhaps they are worth pulling along.

I have been doing a lot of travel lately. I just came back from Rio de Janerio, Brazil, and there was a lovely lady sitting in Coach with me, who works three jobs and was charming, intelligent and an asset to any country. There are plenty of people like her in the world. To me, it doesn't matter what country you came from; it matters who you are. There are plenty of scumbags in Mexico and Nicaruga; there are plenty of scumbags who are citizens of the USA, too.

We have to pay for the educations of ghetto blacks, and rural "white trash", and we do, because we think they may represent the future of this country. Well, so do many of the Mexicans and others who move here in search of something better.

The real shame is that we're letting them all down - legal or illegal - by providing bad educations, awful roads and substandard housing. My question is how we can consider this a challenge instead of an excuse, by making it a reason to make do with what we got, and work smarter instead of throwing money blindly at our problems.

Our system has responded horribly to the challenges that confront us, but that doesn't mean we should eliminate the challenges. It means we should realize the system is broke, and try to fix it, instead of using it as a way to scapegoat racial groups and turn them against each other.

In the end, we're all in this together - and we shouldn't forget it.

D
26 posted on 07/08/2003 2:28:43 PM PDT by daviddennis (Visit amazing.com for protest accounts, video & more!)
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Most recently, Los Angeles County, which is experiencing a full-blown health care crisis, estimated that caring for uninsured illegal aliens now costs $350 million a year. The state health budget is projected to encounter $3 billion in unreimbursed health care costs for illegal immigrants over the next five years.

Send the bill to Vicente Fox.

28 posted on 07/08/2003 2:42:18 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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There is a reason that immigration law exists, and it is to balance this equation: immigration = rate of economic growth. When the law is not enforced the economy can not support the increase in population. Declining standard of living for the majority is the result. Spend O'crats and employers of illegals don't get it, or maybe they do.
39 posted on 07/08/2003 6:14:41 PM PDT by SSN558 (Be on the lookout for Black White-Supremacists)
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But, But, But! "Our Diversity Is Our Strength!"
40 posted on 07/08/2003 6:17:08 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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I say we should just annex all of Mexico and abolish the entire Mexican government. The liberals want to ignore the fact there is a border there, so why dont we?
44 posted on 07/08/2003 8:23:18 PM PDT by SwankyC
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The inescapable conclusion is that California is being bankrupted by cheap immigrant labor.

No. The inescapable conclusion is that illegal immigrants contribute to our current state of fiscal insolvency. They are not alone in the cumulative effect upon a budget that is beholden to many siginificant wastes of tax dollars.

Vote getting by the doling out of dollars to various interest groups has been the democrat's greatest weapon. Republicans can only hope to mimic this, in order to 'swing' votes their way (see the national stage).

The problem isn't in the way the two major parties react to the demands of voters, but rather, the voters themselves, who have become all too comfortable with an existence that, when compared to the rest of the world's lazy, sit-on-your-ass-I-ain't-lifting-a-finger types, is one of the 'rich and famous' indeed.

46 posted on 07/08/2003 8:34:52 PM PDT by budwiesest
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Very good article. Thanks for posting.
58 posted on 07/09/2003 11:23:27 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Yep. Good Guy. The GOP is afraid to take on the sleep dog called illegal immigration for fear of being tarred as "racist" by the Democrats. Which they would do anyway. Instead of moving to implement a national Proposition 187 style policy, the feds are considering an amnesty. You gotta love this. Along with piling on more goodies for the illegals, California looks to go further into the tank. It couldn't happen to a more deserving state. And Jorge W. thinks turning America into Mexica seems to be the way to go too.
71 posted on 07/09/2003 2:47:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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74 posted on 07/09/2003 3:56:33 PM PDT by autoresponder (. . . . SOME CAN*T HANDLE THE TRUTH . . . THE NYT ESPECIALLY!)
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