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NASA: Gases Breached Shuttle Wing in 2000
Associated Press ^ | 7/8/03 | TED BRIDIS

Posted on 07/08/2003 12:20:26 PM PDT by anymouse

Superheated gases breached the left wing of shuttle Atlantis during its fiery return to earth in hauntingly similar fashion to the demise of Columbia nearly three years later, according to internal NASA documents.

Unlike Columbia, Atlantis suffered no irreparable damage during the May 2000 episode and, after repairs, returned to flight just four months later. NASA ordered fleetwide changes in how employees install protective wing panels and sealant materials.

The small leak through a seam in Atlantis' wing during its return from the International Space Station was disclosed in documents sought by The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act. The mission commander was James Halsell, a shuttle veteran who is coordinating NASA's effort to return the shuttles to flight.

One of the seven Atlantis astronauts, Mary Ellen Weber, said NASA never told her about the breach, which was not discovered until the shuttle had landed.

"There are thousands and thousands of things that can go wrong, and the crew is very much aware this can happen," Weber said. "Certainly, when you learn about this, if it had progressed, it could have been much more dire."

Weber operated the robotic arm aboard Atlantis and flew aboard Discovery in July 1995. She said NASA may have reported the wing damage to other crew members. Attempts by AP to reach the other astronauts by telephone through family members and NASA offices in Houston and Washington were unsuccessful; one Atlantis crewman was a Russian cosmonaut and another has left NASA to return to the Air Force.

NASA spokesman James Hartsfield said crews and engineers generally participate in two months of meetings to discuss their experiences and spacecraft conditions. He could not say whether the shuttle's commander or pilot was told about the wing breach, which NASA blamed on incorrectly installed sealant material.

Some experts expressed surprise that superheated gases ever had leaked inside a shuttle's wing. Although protective wing panels have been found damaged, even cracked, the Columbia disaster was widely believed outside NASA to have been the first such breach.

"Very little information about the flaws of the tile system ever make it into the open literature, so those of us who work on this ... seldom hear much about serious problems such as this one," said Steven P. Schneider, an associate professor at Purdue University's Aerospace Sciences Lab. "I've never heard this sort of leak occurred."

NASA said it later determined Atlantis' exterior wing panels were not damaged by the overheating despite being discolored from the high temperatures. Aluminum structures inside the wing "looked outstanding," NASA said. Other parts immediately behind the wing panels were covered with a glassy material, apparently from melted insulating tile and other sealant material.

Hartsfield said all damaged parts were replaced.

The space agency formally reported the damage to its Program Requirements Control Board, an internal safety oversight body, which ordered fleetwide improvements in the installation of sealant materials before Atlantis was allowed to launch for its mission in September 2000. Atlantis is expected to be the next shuttle into space when NASA is cleared to resume flights.

Weber, now an associate vice president at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, described Atlantis' return to Earth as mostly routine and remembered seeing an orange glow from hot gases dancing outside the shuttle windows.

Although damage inside Atlantis' left wing was detected post-flight, NASA worried about the shuttle's return even before the discovery.

During liftoff, a 6-inch chunk of ice had smashed against the back edge of the right wing; so experts deemed it prudent to adjust Atlantis' flight to rapidly cool its wings prior to the fiery trip through the atmosphere, NASA documents showed.

It was impossible to know whether this cooling technique, called a thermal conditioning maneuver, also helped minimize heat damage inside Atlantis' defective left wing. NASA later determined damage on the right wing was relatively minor.

The board investigating Columbia's Feb. 1 breakup determined that superheated gases penetrated protective wing panels that had been loosened by insulating foam that broke off its external fuel tank on liftoff and smashed against the shuttle. Investigators believe searing re-entry temperatures melted key structures inside until Columbia tumbled out of control and broke apart at close to 13,000 miles per hour, killing its seven astronauts.

NASA did not consider ordering the thermal conditioning maneuver on Columbia because it believed such a move would have interfered with efforts to warm Columbia's landing gear tires for a safe landing.

NASA blamed the Atlantis damage on improper installation of a seal between two protective panels on the shuttle's left wing, "called a butterfly gap filler," at the Boeing Co. plant in Palmdale, Calif., during an overhaul of Atlantis in late 1997. The mistake went unnoticed during subsequent inspections because the part could not be seen without removing protective panels, NASA said.

Engineers found the damage on Atlantis while investigating the mystery of a partially melted insulating tile. Removing two protective wing panels nearby and peering inside the wing structure, they determined the dislodged seal had created "a substantial flow path," according to NASA's internal reports. The gap measured just over one-quarter inch, about the width of a paperclip or a No. 2 pencil.

The protective panels, insulators and other hardware inside the left wing "shows various signs of overheating," NASA reported. Photographs showed charred and scorched components, including parts made from titanium and inconel, two of the most heat-resistant materials on the shuttle. Titanium melts about 3,000 degrees; inconel melts about 2,550 degrees.

Investigators examining Columbia's breakup remain uncertain over the size of the gap that permitted hot gases to penetrate that shuttle's wing. But they believe it was as small as a one-inch slit running vertically up the wing for nearly 30 inches. In a test Monday, a chunk of foam blew open a dramatic 16-inch hole in parts of a mock-up of a shuttle wing.

Temperatures during a shuttle's return can climb to almost 3,000 degrees — nearly one-third as hot as the surface of the sun — along parts of the spacecraft, especially the leading edges of its wings. Damage there is considerably more likely to doom a shuttle than anywhere else. NASA requires immediate repairs when damage to the wing's protective panels exceeds four-hundredths of an inch, about the thickness of a dime.


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KEYWORDS: 2000; atlantis; columbia; goliath; nasa; shuttle; space; sts107
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41 posted on 07/08/2003 8:10:59 PM PDT by meema
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To: MrConfettiMan; aristeides; TLBSHOW; Jael
Thanks for the ping, MCM. Looks like NASA is quietly trying to sweep this under the rug. I don't blame them for that.
42 posted on 07/08/2003 8:30:55 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Normal4me; RightWhale; demlosers; Prof Engineer; BlazingArizona; ThreePuttinDude; Brett66; ...
Space Ping! This is the space ping list! Let me know if you want on or off this list!
43 posted on 07/08/2003 8:50:53 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Fred Mertz
TLBSHOW and Jael are banned.
44 posted on 07/08/2003 9:01:02 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: ironman; Erik Latranyi; DoughtyOne
what crap - "First of all I don't think the NASA Director made any such statements the day of the disaster. The Shuttle Flight Director was highly skeptical that the foam incident was the "root cause." But I think you will find that the analysis that was done did indicate some damage was likely to have ocurred."

We have an engineering/science project here - not a clinton political lying press conference. He stood up there plain as day and dismissed the foam as a cause in the very first press conference.
45 posted on 07/08/2003 9:02:24 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Jhoffa_
I know. But they can lurk and read anyways.
46 posted on 07/08/2003 9:02:47 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: eno_
40 - "Ever since Challenger, the Shuttle should have been used only for military missions. Risking lives for "science" missions where many of the "experiments" would be considered lame in a 7th grade science fair is criminal."

LOL - how true - lame even for a 7th grade science fair - I really liked the 'perfume scent from space' experiment.
47 posted on 07/08/2003 9:05:47 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Fred Mertz
Well, yes.. I suppose that's true.

I hated to see TLB go.

He made me REALLY mad sometimes, but the one thing I can say about him is I always got the impression that he was trying his best.

No hidden agendas or motivations or anything like that.

I can't however, honestly say the same thing about some of his detractors.

I liked Jael also. I dunno what problems others had with her, but she was nice to me.

48 posted on 07/08/2003 9:07:28 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: Jhoffa_; TLBSHOW
I spent a day with TLB in late May. He is perfectly normal and has a beautiful family and home.
49 posted on 07/08/2003 9:11:12 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
That's good. I am glad he's happy.

Our squabbles mainly centered around American Muslims and a difference of opinion as to what should or should not be done to them, post 9/11.

Pretty small stuff actually, far as FR goes.

50 posted on 07/08/2003 9:19:49 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: Jhoffa_
TBLSHOW came back a few days ago. Has he been excommunicated again? LOL Heathen. I like the guy too, but the way he would sometimes push the Bushbots, just for the fun of it, led me to believe he'd be toast sooner or later. It's one thing to point out their errors, it's another to jump up on down on their seething bodies.
51 posted on 07/08/2003 9:40:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Yeah.. He did torque them up pretty good sometimes.

As a general rule, he wasn't particularly nasty about it though..

I watched allot of those threads without comment and the venom to venom ratio was about 50 to 1 against.

52 posted on 07/08/2003 9:53:47 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: Jhoffa_
I have mixed emotions about the venom. On the one hand I laugh at the Bushbots. On the other hand I think they do more harm to Bush than they can possibly imagine.

Driving people off this forum isn't going to make them vote for Bush. In fact that's so obvious that there are times when I wonder if the most fervent aren't actually democrats trying to creat divisions amongst conservatives. Observers aren't going to think more of Bush or his supporters after some of these exchanges.

Of course the Bushbots think that only works on way. If you criticize Bush at all you're a disrupter. No, a healthy process sees reasoned criticism as a integral part of growth.

I don't see growth. I see support at any cost. That's terribly destructive IMO.

I'm not the only person to contemplate if some of our most ardent Bushbots are Dembots. I've had some surprising people broach this subject with me. Some of them were ardent Bush supporters.

On a number of occasions I've had people attack me out of the blue here when I didn't even slam Bush. When they did so they referenced my actions three years ago. Some of these people weren't even around then.

Some of the Bush detractors were indeed trouble makers. Others have been folks who simply don't see conservatism as a second path to socialism.

This is an interesting topic that hardly ever gets discussed in an adult manner.

Thanks for the comments.
53 posted on 07/08/2003 10:36:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

No, it isn't. But I don't think their goal is to convert anyone. It much more closely resembles a religious cult defending it's leader than it does any political campaign I ever saw. It's largely emotional.

I sometimes wonder if there are paid operatives who have joined, trying to quash dissent and prevent it from spreading.

Exactly.

I don't know about you but, I was outraged at the Democrats "Rose Garden" performance.

I suppose there's an equally large absense of objectivity on our side of the fence as well.

I hate to admit that, because I am fully convinced in my mind that Conservatism is objective, workable and inherently morally superior to other political ideologies.

Regardless however, that does seem to be the case. There's just no getting away from it.

When you have self proclaimed "Conservatives" supporting Un-Constitutional endeavors, what else can you say?

55 posted on 07/08/2003 11:03:03 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (BREAKING: Supreme Court Finds Right to Sodomy, Sammy & Frodo elated.)
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To: Jhoffa_
I agree with you completely. I too am amazed at what people who call themselves Conservatives are willing to sign on to.
56 posted on 07/09/2003 2:24:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: ironman
Uh, yeah. The only action by NASA Safety mentioned in the article was a call for "fleetwide improvements in the installation of sealant materials". This clearly was not a fix for the engineering flaw. I stand by "did nothing."
57 posted on 07/09/2003 5:17:44 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: Paleo Conservative
It also means they don't seem to have a database of all incidents that is quickly searchable. This type of information should have been quickly accessable by any of the astronauts and engineers responsible for the safety of the shuttles.

Actually, NASA does have a lessons learned database, but it is populated with trivial safety issues (slipped on the stairs, trip hazards, etc...). IMHO, NASA safety has in fact obscured real safety (flight safety through good engineering processes) in favor of trivial safety (signs in the stairwells instructing employees how to use the stairs safely).

58 posted on 07/09/2003 5:25:23 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: XBob; Erik Latranyi; DoughtyOne
One of my criticism of FR is that I see a tendency to stretch the facts, or people are a little loose with their wording. Maybe it's just an interpretation of words. For example, dismissed vs. highly skeptical, or "did nothing" when in fact a lot was done (maybe not enough, or the wrong things "done.") I stand by my previous statements. The shuttle flight director did not totally dismiss the foam incident as the root cause. IIRC, he said they would certainly re-look at the analysis to 'see if they missed something.'
59 posted on 07/09/2003 5:55:33 AM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman
With all due respect, what else could he say after dismissing the threat prior to mission failure? Yes, we're going to look at everything, even the foam strike even though it's very doubtful that was a contributing factor. No offense, but that's dismissing the issue. He had to play down the issue or allow NASA to look incredibly stupid for allowing this issue to be downplayed during the mission.
60 posted on 07/09/2003 6:03:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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