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Posted on 07/08/2003 1:32:03 PM PDT by William McKinley
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To: woodyinscc
I have always thought when the timing was right, the Bush Administration will lay down their cards and like you said -- Royal Flush right on the table!
At that point in time, the media will start looking for the next item to attack President Bush with! Doubt if they ever admit they were wrong!
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posted on
07/08/2003 9:22:50 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
To: rwfromkansas
"Quite frankly, I believe probably there was other info he had which led Bush to believe the report was accurate."I see where your coming from wanting to do something with this story. It potentially has long, long legs.
Personally, I wouldn't touch it because it is not verified. That said, I would stay on top of it.
So, let me sum up where you are going with the story. Your objective, should you decide to accept it is this, to find out if Bush got emotional and reacted "to the moment", wanted answers now, you know....blah, blah, blah. But most of all, did Bush make decisions based on emotions rather than fact? The proof of that could bring this Administration down.
BTW, I doubt it. Bush has proven to be too cool. But stranger things have happened.
One last point. Did you ever write up what you thought was a great and factual article and then pulled it because of your gut feeling? If so, your on your way to success.
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posted on
07/08/2003 9:32:34 PM PDT
by
AGreatPer
(Current odds on Hillary running in 04.......8-1.)
To: PhiKapMom
At that point in time, the media will start looking for the next item to attack President Bush with! Doubt if they ever admit they were wrong! Have you noticed tho that Bush never has to get down in the dirt with them to expose their lies!! When you play poker, there is an old expression "Cards Talk"
To: woodyinscc
I have noticed that! I wouldn't play poker with him! I know I would lose and lose big!
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posted on
07/08/2003 9:40:03 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
To: rwfromkansas
rw. Do NOT run with this story at this point. Get another one.
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posted on
07/08/2003 9:49:23 PM PDT
by
AGreatPer
(Current odds on Hillary running in 04.......12-1.)
To: justshe
Thank you much for using the ping list. This is bookmarked for me to read later...
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posted on
07/08/2003 10:11:43 PM PDT
by
Freedom2specul8
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: AGreatPer
Oh I am not.....It would take a lot for me to actually run with this, including more than just e-mail contact...I won't be done in by a fake e-mail address etc. Furthermore, I would need another source at the meeting or I wouldn't print anything.
I just sent some questions for curiosity sake...I doubt he will even respond.
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posted on
07/09/2003 3:13:45 PM PDT
by
rwfromkansas
("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
To: PhiKapMom
Right. Which means the Brits screwed up and misled Bush about the matter, but he had good grounds to trust the British intelligence, as they are our friends.
Good point.
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posted on
07/09/2003 3:16:06 PM PDT
by
rwfromkansas
("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
To: Doug Thompson
If I screw up, I admit it and try to fix it.
Great! I assume that means you will be contacting the people at
Japan Today then to get them to fix your screw up on their website as well?
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posted on
07/09/2003 3:19:42 PM PDT
by
William McKinley
(From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
To: rwfromkansas
See above.
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posted on
07/09/2003 3:20:34 PM PDT
by
William McKinley
(From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
To: William McKinley
QUOTE:
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If I screw up, I admit it and try to fix it.
Great! I assume that means you will be contacting the people at Japan Today then to get them to fix your screw up on their website as well?
_____________________________________________________
it's worse than that. I should have listened to you guys:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/943260/posts
To: Doug Thompson
Doug, put that up on your site. Journalists make mistakes......as long as you acknowledge it, and promise to make sure it doesn't happen again, fine.
But you must print a retraction and remove the story completely from your site and urge all other sites that picked it up to do the same.
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posted on
07/09/2003 4:13:56 PM PDT
by
rwfromkansas
("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
To: Doug Thompson
Mr. Thompson, I am sorry it went down this way. I was skeptical of your intentions. The fact that you admitted what you just did shows my skepticism was misplaced.
Accept my apology.
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posted on
07/09/2003 4:20:18 PM PDT
by
William McKinley
(From you, I get opinions. From you, I get the story.)
To: Doug Thompson
This is one of the worst examples of liberal media lies that I've ever seen.
Sure some here will say that you apologized so they'll forgive you.
Do you have any idea how much harm lies like this do to the country?
Do you have any idea how many people saw the first story, which was entitled "Bush Lies" and will never see your admission that it was you who printed lies?
I will never believe a word that comes from your site! Never!
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posted on
07/09/2003 4:47:39 PM PDT
by
Spidey
To: William McKinley
bttt
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posted on
07/09/2003 4:53:16 PM PDT
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: Diddle E. Squat; Howlin
Now that's interesting!
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posted on
07/09/2003 5:04:39 PM PDT
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: William McKinley
Good catch (and later read) bump!
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posted on
07/09/2003 10:33:30 PM PDT
by
Humidston
(Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
To: rwfromkansas; Doug Thompson; William McKinley; Sabertooth
But you must print a retraction and remove the story completely from your site and urge all other sites that picked it up to do the same. I strongly disagree! The retraction should be printed... but the erroneous story should remain in place AS ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED with a LARGE preface added containing the retraction, the lack of provenance of the source, and the mea culpas of the author.
To REMOVE the article smacks more of cover-up and avoidance of responsibility. There are unknowable numbers of copies of the original article now circulating around the internet... and many people will see them and believe them. By leaving the original in place WITH the entire sordid story of fraud and reportorial gullability would at least allow those trying to track down the truth to have the ultimate source intact.
This story, fraudulent as it is, is now also part of history and the evidence of HOW it happened and how it was exposed should not be eliminated. In fact, William McKinley's thread on FR should be included.
Doug Thompson indicates on another FR thread that he has gone back and removed all other articles that used information from this tainted source... again, I believe they SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED but left in place with appropriate warnings that they are not to be given weight AND linking to this current article.
We need to correct our mistakes... AND let them be examples... if we are to learn anything from them.
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posted on
07/09/2003 11:07:10 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
To: William McKinley
Kudos for your sleuthing, sir! Very interestng set of events here.
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posted on
07/09/2003 11:22:43 PM PDT
by
Libertina
(If speech is restricted because it 's harsh, it isn't free.)
To: Mo1; rwfromkansas; Howlin; justshe
TLBSHOW was here on FreeRepublic for about two weeks when his words here were being picked up and quoted across the world. I remember in particular a French language e-zine quoting something he had said, and there were a couple of others.
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