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John Kerry to US Senate in 1971: "We are not best and brightest" & "Mystical Communism"
Dewey Canyon Project & University of Richmond Archives ^ | July 9, 2003 | nwrep

Posted on 07/10/2003 6:32:52 PM PDT by nwrep

Statement of John Kerry to US Senate April 1971: "We are not best and brightest" & "There is no Communist threat"


HOW DO YOU ASK A MAN TO BE
THE LAST MAN TO DIE FOR A MISTAKE

From John Kerry's statement before the Senate Foreign

Relations Committee, April 22, 1971.

I would like to say for the record, and for the men behind me who are also wearing the uniform and their medals, that my being here is really symbolic. I am not here as John Kerry, but as one member of a group of one thousand, which in turn is a small representation of a very much larger group of veterans in this country. Were it possible for all of them to sit at this table they would be here and present the same kind of testimony.

I would like to talk about the feelings these men carry with them after coming back from Vietnam. The country doesn't realize it yet but it has created a monster in the form of thousands of men who have been taught to deal and trade in violence and who are given the chance to die for the biggest nothing in history -- men who have returned with a sense of anger and betrayal that no one so far has been able to grasp. We are angry because we feel we have been used in the worst fashion by the administration of this country.

In 1970 at West Point Vice President Agnew said "some glamorize the criminal misfits of society while our best men die in Asian rice paddies to preserve the freedom which most of those misfits abuse," and this was used as a rallying point for our effort in Vietnam. But for us, as boys in Asia whom the country was supposed to support, his statement is a terrible distortion from which we can only draw a very deep sense of revulsion, and hence the anger of some of the men who are here in Washington today. It is a distortion because we in no way consider ourselves the best men of this country; because those he calls misfits were standing up for us in a way that nobody else in this country dared to; because so many who have died would have returned to this country to join the misfits in their efforts to ask for an immediate withdrawal from South Vietnam; because so many of those best men have returned as quadriplegics and amputees -- and they lie forgotten in Veterans Administration hospitals in this country which fly the flag which so many have chosen as their own personal symbol -- and we cannot consider ourselves America's best men when we are ashamed of and hated for what we were called on to do in Southeast Asia.

In our opinion and from our experience, there is nothing in South Vietnam which could happen that realistically threatens the United States of America. And to attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy.

We are probably angriest about all that we were told about Vietnam and about the mystical war against communism. We found that not only was it a civil war, an effort by people who had for years been seeking their liberation from any colonial influence whatsoever, but also we found that the Vietnamese whom we had enthusiastically molded after our own image were hard put to take up the fight against the threat we were sup- posedly saving them from. We found most people didn't even know the difference between communism and democracy. They only wanted to work in rice paddies without helicopters strafing them and bombs with napalm burning their villages and tearing their country apart. . They practiced the art of survival by siding with whichever military force was present at a particular time, be it Viet Cong, North Vietnamese, or American.

We found that all too often American men were dying in those rice paddies for want of support from their allies. We saw firsthand how monies from American taxes were used for a corrupt dictatorial regime. We saw that many people in this country had a one-sided idea of who was kept free by our flag, and blacks provided the highest percentage of casualties. We saw Vietnam ravaged equally by American bombs and search- and-destroy missions, as well as by Viet Cong terrorism, and yet we listened while this country tried to blame all of the havoc on the Viet Cong. We rationalized destroying villages in order to save them. We saw America lose her sense of morality as she accepted very coolly a My Lai and refused to give up the image of American soldiers who hand out chocolate bars and chewing gum. We learned the meaning of free-fire zones. shooting anything that moves, and we watched while America placed a cheapness on the lives of Orientals.

We watched the United States' falsification of body counts, in fact the glorification of body counts. We listened while month after month we were told the back of the enemy is about to break. We fought [with] weapons against those people which I do not believe this country would dream of using were we fighting in the European theatre. We watched while men charged up hills because a general said that hill has to be taken, and after losing one platoon or two platoons, they marched away to leave the hill for reoccupation by the North Vietnamese. We watched pride allow the most unimportant battles to be blown into extravaganzas, because we couldn't lose, and we couldn't retreat, and because it didn't matter how many American bodies were lost to prove that point, and so there were Hamburger Hills and Khesahns and Hill 81s and Fire Base 6s, and so many others.

And now we are told that the men who fought there must watch quietly while American lives are lost so that we can exercise the incredible arrogance of Vietnamizing the Vietnamese. Each day to facilitate the process by which the United States washes her hands of Vietnam someone has to give up his life so that the United States doesn't have to admit something that the entire world already knows, so that we can't say that we have made a mistake. Someone has to die so that President Nixon won't be, and these are his words, "the first President to lose a war."

We are asking Americans to think about that because how do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam? How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? But we are trying to do that, and we are doing it with thousands of ration- alizations, and if you read carefully the President's last speech to the people of this country, you can see that he says, and says clearly, "but the issue, gentlemen, the issue is communism, and the question is whether or not we will leave that country to the Communists or whether or not we will try to give it hope to be a free people." But the point is that they are not a free people now, and we cannot fight communism all over the world. I think we should have learned that lesson by now.

Suddenly we are faced with a very sickening situation in this country, because there is no moral indignation and, if there is, it comes from people who are almost exhausted by their past indignations. . . The country seems to have lain down and shrugged off something as serious as Laos, just as we calmly shrugged off the loss of 700,000 lives in Pakistan, the so-called greatest disaster of all times. But we are here as veterans to say we think we are in the midst of the greatest disaster of all times now, because they are still dying over there -- not just Americans but Vietnamese -- and we are rationalizing leaving that country so that those people can go on killing each other for years to come.

Americans seem to have accepted the idea that the war is winding down, at least for Americans, and they have also allowed the bodies which were once used by a President for statistics to prove that we were winning the war, to be used as evidence against a man who followed orders and who inter- preted those order no differently than hundreds of other men in Vietnam.

We veterans can only look with amazement on the fact that this country has been unable to see there is absolutely no difference between ground troops and a helicopter crew, and yet people have accepted a differentiation fed them by the administration. No ground troops are in Laos, so it is all right to kill Laotians by remote control. But believe me the helicopter crews fill the same body bags and they wreak the same kind of damage on the Vietnamese and Laotian country- side as anybody else, and the President is talking about allowing that to go on for many years to come. One can only ask if we will really be satisfied only when the troops march into Hanoi.

We are asking here in Washington for some action, action from the Congress of the United States of America, which has the power to raise and maintain armies, and which by the Constitution also has the power to declare war. We have come here, not to the President, because we believe that this body can be responsive to the will of the people, and we believe that the will of the people says that we should be out of Vietnam now.

We are here in Washington also to say that the problem of this war is not just a question of war and diplomacy. It is part and parcel of everything that we are trying as human beings to communicate to people in this country -- the question of racism, which is rampant in the military, and so many other questions such as the use of weapons; the hypocrisy in our taking umbrage in the Geneva Conventions and using that as justification for a continuation of this war when we are more guilty than any other body of violations of those Geneva Conventions; in the use of free-fire zones, harassment interdiction fire, search-and-destroy missions, the bombings, the torture of prisoners, the killing of prisoners, all accepted policy by many units in South Vietnam. That is what we are trying to say. We are also here to ask, and we are here to ask vehemently, where are the leaders of our country? Where is the leadership? We are here to ask where are McNamara, Rostow, Bundy, Johnson, and so man others? Where are they now that we, the men whom they sent off to war, have returned? These are commanders who have deserted their troops, and there is no more serious crime in the law of war. The Army says they never leave their wounded. The Marines say they never leave even their dead. These men have left all the casualties and retreated behind a pious shield of public rectitude. They have left the real stuff of their reputa- tions bleaching behind them in the sun.

Finally, this administration has done us the ultimate dishonor. They have attempted to disown us and the sacri- fices we made for this country. In their blindness and their fear they have tried to deny that we are veterans or that we served in Nam. We do not need their testimony. Our own scars and stumps of limbs are witness enough for others and for ourselves.

We wish that a merciful God could wipe away our own memories of that service as easily as this administration has wiped away their memories of us. But all that they have done and all that they can do by this denial is to make more clear than ever our own determination to undertake one last mission - to search out and destroy the last vestige of this barbaric war, to pacify our own hearts, to conquer the hate and fear that have driven this country these last ten years and mores, so when thirty years from now our brothers go down the street without a leg, without an arm, or a face, and small boys ask why, we will be able to say "Vietnam" and not mean a desert, not a filthy obscene memory, but mean instead the place where America finally turned and where soldiers like us helped it in the turning.

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From "The New Soldier" by John Kerry and Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Collier Books, New York, New York, 1971, pages: 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24

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Editorial Note: Concluding his formal statement, Kerry commented about administration attempts to disown veterans and looked forward thirty years (to 2001) when the nation could look back proudly to a time when it turned from this war and the hate and fears driving us in Vietnam.

Following his formal testimony, the committee members questioned him during their discussion of some of the legislative proposals under consideration. In the course of this discussion, Kerry spoke with considerable familiarity and understanding about disengagement and withdrawal proposals being considered. In response to a question from Senator Aiken, Kerry endorsed "extensive reparations to the people of Indochina" as a "very definite obligation" of the U.S. (p. 191).
Kerry also commented on growth of American opposition to the war, the actions of Lt. Calley at My Lai, and strategic implications of the war.

 

...It is my opinion that the United States is still reacting in very much the 1945 mood and postwar cold-war period when we reacted to the forces which were at work in World War II and came out of it with this paranoia about the Russians and how the world was going to be divided up between the super powers, and the foreign policy of John Foster Dulles which was responsible for the created of the SEATO treaty, which was, in fact, a direct reaction to this so-called Communist monolith. And I think we are reacting under cold-war precepts which are no longer applicable.

I say that because so long as we have the kind of strike force we have, and I am not party to the secret statistics which you gentlemen have here, but as long as we have the ones which we of the public know we have, I think we have a strike force of such capability and I think we have a strike force simply in our Polaris submarines, in the 62 or some Polaris submarines, which are constantly roaming around under the sea. And I know as a Navy man that underwater detection is the hardest kind in the world, and they have not perfected it, that we have the ability to destroy the human race. Why do we have to, therefore, consider and keep considering threats?

At any time that an actual threat is posed to this country or to the security and freedom I will be one of the first people to pick up a gun and defend it, but right now we are reacting with paranoia t this question of peace and the people taking over the world. I think if were are ever going to get down to the question of dropping those bombs most of us in my generation simply don't want to be alive afterwards because of the kind of world that it would be with mutations and the genetic probabilities of freaks and everything else.

Therefore, I think it is ridiculous to assume we have to play this power game based on total warfare. I think there will be guerrilla wars and I think we must have a capability to fight those. And we may have to fight them somewhere based on legitimate threats, but we must learn, in this country, how to define those threats and that is what I would say to the question of world peace. I think it is bogus, totally artificial. There is no threat. The Communists are not about to take over our McDonald hamburger stands. [Laughter.]...

 

Editorial Note: Kerry's exchange with the senators consumed two complete hours, ranging from earlier French experiences in Indochina to the status of the war in 1971. Kerry faulted the electronic press for failure to report a recent antiwar conference because of its lack of "visual" appeal and entertainment value. He also cited the "exorbitant" power of the Executive, faulting Congress.

In response to Senator Symington's inquiry about American men and women still in Vietnam and their attitude toward opposition to the war within Congress, Kerry offered the following comments.

 

...I don't want to get into the game of saying I represent everybody over there, but let me try to say as straightforwardly as I can, we had an advertisement, ran full page, to show you what the troops read. It ran in Playboy and the response to it within two and a half weeks from Vietnam was 1,200 members. We received initially about 50 to 80 letters a day from troops arriving at our New York office. Some of these letters -- and I wanted to bring some down, I didn't know we were going to be testifying here and I can make them available to you -- are very, very moving, some of them written by hospital corpsmen on things, on casualty report sheets which say, you know, "Get us out of here." "You are the only hope he have got." "You have got to get us back; it is crazy." We received recently 80 members of the 101st Airborne signed up in one letter. Forty members from a helicopter assault squadron, crash and rescue mission signed up in another one.

I think they are expressing, some of these troops, solidarity with us, right now by wearing black arm bands and Vietnam Veterans Against the War buttons. They want to come out and I think they are looking at the people who want to try to get them out as a help.

However, I do recognize there are some men who are in the military for life. The job in the military is to fight wars. When they have a war to fight, they are just as happy in a sense, and I am sure that these men feel they are being stabbed in the back. But, at the same time, I think to most of them the realization of the emptiness, the hollowness, the absurdity of Vietnam has finally hit home, and I feel is they did come home the recrimination would certainly not come from the right, from the military. I don't think there would be that problem....

 

Editorial Note: Kerry returned to the theme of the mood of troops in Vietnam and back home as he concluded his testimony.

 

...You see the mind is changing over there and a search and destroy mission is a search and avoid mission, and troops don't -- you know, like that revolt that took place that was mentioned in the New York Times when they refused to go in after a piece of dead machinery, because it doesn't have any value. They are making their own judgments.

There is a GI movement in this country now as well as over there, and soon these people, these men, who are prescribing wars for these young men to fight are going to find out they are going to have to find some other men to fight them because we are going to change prescriptions. They are going to have to change doctors, because we are not going to fight for them. that is what they are going to realize. There is now a more militant attitude even within the military itself....

 

Editorial Note: Later as Democratic senator from Massachusetts, John Kerry joined 61 others in favor of a nonbinding resolution to lift the U.S. trade embargo against Vietnam. The original embargo began against the Democratic Republic of Vietnam in 1964 and extended to the united Socialist Republic of Vietnam in April 1975. Following the nonbinding senate resolution, President Clinton repealed the embargo 4 February 1994.

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 2004; blackshirts; communistsubversion; electionpresident; geopolitics; john; kerry; vietnam; warlist

1 posted on 07/10/2003 6:32:52 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: *Blackshirts; *Communist Subversion; *Election President; *Geopolitics; *war_list
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2 posted on 07/10/2003 6:35:28 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: nwrep
I still wish I could find the pic where he tosses his medal he recieved from Vietnam over the wall.(And then retrieves it) I couldn't find it anywhere.
3 posted on 07/10/2003 6:38:02 PM PDT by Brett66
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4 posted on 07/10/2003 6:38:23 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Brett66
They were somebody elses' medals.
5 posted on 07/10/2003 6:58:35 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Once a soldier, always a soldier. They enemies of freedom never rest.)
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To: nwrep
Their own party lied to them about Vietnam, and yet the repubs get the blame.
6 posted on 07/10/2003 7:56:39 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: nwrep
I understand Kerry was also pro-Sandinista, read communist.
7 posted on 07/10/2003 8:14:40 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: nwrep
If we could get everyone to read this testimony, Kerry would be finished as a candidate forever. There is the defeatism, the mis-estimation of the danger of Communism, the inarticulate gruntings of the pothead, the clear partisanship of a man looking to launch a career in a specific political party, and the plain, old-fashioned puffery of leftist revisionism. Quite an accomplishment, Mr. Kerry!
8 posted on 07/10/2003 8:18:58 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: TheDon

Shortly after taking office in 1985, Kerry and Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa went on a fact-finding trip to Nicaragua, where they met with Daniel Ortega (right) and other Sandinistas. The trip was criticized when the Sandinistas cemented ties with Moscow.

9 posted on 07/10/2003 8:21:36 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: thegreatbeast; All
JOHN KERRY =

Enemy of Vietnam Vets





Troop-trashing KERRY Objects to Bush's 'Bring 'Em On' Comment

http://www.Newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2003/7/7/233408
(The Article)


Freeper Alert: Sen. KERRY / Communist Vietnamese Killing Off Christians in Central Highlands

http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/675016/posts
(The Thread)
10 posted on 07/10/2003 8:38:15 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.comW)
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The following year, Harkin and Senator John Kerry (D-MA) took one of the most scandalous and treacherous "diplomatic" junkets ever. Forty-eight hours before a crucial congressional vote on a bill authorizing $14 million in aid to the Contras, they went to Nicaragua for an agitprop tour that helped sway Congress to kill the aid. Lavishly attended by the major media, their expedition garnered favorable press coverage of supposed Sandinista reforms. The trip was arranged by IPS staffer Peter Kornbluh. Several days after defeating the Contra aid bill, Daniel Ortega flew to Moscow to pick up $200 million in aid. After witnessing this blatant deception, Congress reversed its decision and voted for Contra aid — but Harkin held fast to his "principled" pro-Marxist position.

In April 1985, Senators Kerry and Harkin were back again stumping for revolution in Latin America, releasing a study that listed 77 instances in which the Reagan Administration had allegedly misled Congress about its policies in Central America. Turns out the study was written by their Soviet disinformation friends at IPS.
11 posted on 07/10/2003 8:40:32 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: nwrep
Thanks for the article! Bookmarked for later use.
12 posted on 07/10/2003 8:45:46 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: nwrep
Politicians 6 6 6 - John Kerry
Found on a bookstore web site - an odd coincidence?

666. KERRY, John, and Vietnam Veterans Against the War. The New Soldier. NY: Macmillan (1971).

The scarce hardcover issue of the first edition of this compendium of pieces and numerous photographs by the important antiwar veterans' group, including John Kerry, currently U.S. Senator from the state of Massachusetts. Quarto, fine in a very near fine dust jacket.



Note: click for pictures:
Patriotism Kerry Style - Kerry throwing medals?? - Kerry at anti-America Rally

13 posted on 07/10/2003 8:46:11 PM PDT by steplock
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To: TheDon; Alamo-Girl; Ragtime Cowgirl; PhilDragoo; Joy Angela; conservogirl; kristinn; Angelwood
NEVER FORGET


During his Impeachment Year President CLINTON went down to apologize to the Free Nicaraquans in person for America's having fought on the "Wrong" side against the CASTRO-Backed Communists invading their country during the 1980's.

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.


NEVER FORGET
14 posted on 07/10/2003 9:29:39 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.comW)
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To: TheDon
...After the Attacks of September 11, 2001...

...former President of the United States BILL CLINTON has stated that...

...America won't even be around in another 300 years.

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.
15 posted on 07/10/2003 9:33:02 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.comW)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
America won't be around in another 300 years. I'm not sure it has another 100, at least not in its current form. There may be some border changes following demography in the next few generations. And of course, if Bush's dumb @$$ gets us into a nuclear war with China, which I wouldn't doubt, that would have an impact on our longevity ;)
16 posted on 07/10/2003 9:54:09 PM PDT by cherrycapital
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To: cherrycapital
As long as FREEDOM's Flame burns brightly on the Earth...

...there will always be a Free AMERICA.
17 posted on 07/11/2003 2:10:28 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.comW)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Well said, Ronnie.

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18 posted on 07/11/2003 7:34:31 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (We're in a global war on terrorism..If you want to call that a quagmire, do it. I don't.*Rummy* 6-30)
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