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Iranian Alert -- DAY 33 -- LIVE THREAD PING LIST [Breaking News... Jamming Source Identified]
Live Thread Ping List ^ | 7.12.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 07/12/2003 12:16:45 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

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To: DoctorZIn
"Khatami is glued to his seat",

Anyone have any "Goo Gone"?
82 posted on 07/12/2003 6:44:11 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
I wasn't arguing with it. I said it was an interesting bit of news.
83 posted on 07/12/2003 7:57:52 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: AdmSmith
Thanks, I appreciate the link and will add that to my timelines.
84 posted on 07/12/2003 7:59:14 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: happygrl
EEeewww, that kilt is cute !
You'd never be mistaken for a man in drag!

Most definitely not! There seems to be nothing like a kilt to turn the ladies' heads. (I'm almost surprised the goodwife lets me wear it in public -- though she always makes the point: "He's with me!")

85 posted on 07/12/2003 8:14:23 PM PDT by Eala (Freedom for Iran -- http://eala.freeservers.com/iranrally)
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To: seamole
"The Shining Path may have been defeated in Peru."

Or may not. That's the purpose of the big office.

Thanks for the link
87 posted on 07/12/2003 8:59:05 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: DoctorZIn
I spoke to people today about the Canadian journalist who was killed and the Cuba satellite story. Their initial reaction was disbelief, because they hadn't heard anything about either.. (And these are people who keep up with the news.) Their next reactions varied from anger to outrage.

CONCLUSION:
If the mainstream media won't pick up on these stories, then the blogs are the way to go.

EMAIL the BLOGS!
88 posted on 07/12/2003 10:25:45 PM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Great idea!!!
Lets put together a list of blogs and email them.
89 posted on 07/12/2003 10:28:31 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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To: All
I just heard from Khashayar.

He is ok.
Given the recent events in Iran it is better that I pass along his messages.

"We have few source for correct NEWS.
This link shows pictures of Shirazi Students in Hunger Strikes:

http://news.gooya.com/2003/07/12/1207-n-11.php

They protest against the latest arrest of Reza Ameri Nasab, a politcal activist student in University of Shiraz.

2 more journalists arrested, Mr. Bastani and Mr. VahidPour, who were working for YASE-NOW Daily. BBC Persian."




90 posted on 07/12/2003 10:37:28 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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To: DoctorZIn
President underscores restructuring of taxation system

 Tehran, July 12, IRNA -- President Mohammad Khatami said on Saturday  
that restructuring the taxation system is the main part of the        
economic reform program and called for promoting the culture of paying
tax and accurate appraisal of the tax revenues for social welfare.    
    Speaking a ceremony to award exemplary tax payers and taxation    
officials with certificate of merit, President Khatami said that      
paying tax should be regarded as a value.                             
    He regretted that tax evasion had been existed so far as an art of
management in the private sector and said that the community is       
responsible to pay tax, and in return, has the right to question the  
government where the taxes have been spent.                           
    Elsewhere in his speech, the president called for transparency of 
the government revenues and expenditure and said that everyone who    
enjoys the most from the government services and social benefits      
should pay high as tax.                                               
    Prior to the president's address, Minister of Economy and Finance 
Tahmasb Mazaheri gave a report about restructuring the taxation system
and the progress made in this sector.                                 
SS/AH/AR                                                              
End                                                                   

source http://www.irna.ir/en/head/030712170316.ehe.shtml

Is Khatami really such a puppet? Was this ceremony hastily put together to try to publicize the buy off of the population (bread and crcuses routine?) Is Khatami still running a near regular schedule?

91 posted on 07/12/2003 11:43:43 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: All
This Thread is now closed. Join us on today's thread at:

Live Thread Ping List | 7.13.2003 | DoctorZIn

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail me”

92 posted on 07/13/2003 12:06:20 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (IranAzad... Until they are free, we shall all be Iranians!)
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To: Valin; risk; ewing; norton; DoctorZIn; RaceBannon; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Pan_Yans Wife; nuconvert; ..
Iran's frustrated generation

Frances Harrison
BBC correspondent in Tehran

Clothing rules have been relaxed, but the young want more freedoms

"Things have improved here but there are so many things I want to do and I just can't stop thinking about them," says 20-year-old Parisa - not her real name.

Born after the 1979 Islamic Revolution she is part of the baby boom generation encouraged by high rates of population growth at the time of the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war.

Parisa has just finished doing her university entrance exams. She has a one in five chance of admission.

An estimated 70% of Iran's population is under 30 years of age.

Opportunities for the young are thin on the ground with unemployment as high as 28% for those under 30.

For us life now is like heaven, but the young think it's hell

Nassim, 34-year-old Iranian
"Absolutely all of my friends would like to go abroad," says Parisa.

She sports the latest Tehran fashion - bleached blonde long hair sticking out of her see-through headscarf, and tight drainpipe jeans with the skimpiest of short overcoats that does little to hide her figure.

"At the parties I go to I see girls wearing very open clothes - short skirts and low-cut evening tops," Parisa says.

Boredom

She adds that her greatest wish is to be able to go to a party and not have to worry if she is going to end up in jail as a result, or to have a meal in a restaurant and not have to bother about her headscarf slipping off.

It is sheer boredom that seems to be the greatest problem.


Young voters played a key role in bringing Khatami to power
"There's nothing for us to do here," she explains.

"The most we can do is go from one coffee shop to another... there are sports clubs but they're all indoors. They're hot and not nice and anyway they're expensive to join."

But the generation that experienced the pre-reform era believes young Iranians simply do not know how lucky they are.

"It was an awful and closed society," says Surreya, explaining that the first years of the revolution saw debate as to whether women could even work.

Surreya is a gym instructor and says inspectors used to come and check what music they were playing.

"If we used this kind of rock and pop they didn't like it - they suggested we use monotone music without lyrics. But nowadays I don't see them around... we are free to do whatever we want," she says.

Reformists' dilemma

Women in their 30s describe going to weddings shrouded from head to toe and without any make-up or nail polish for fear of being stopped at a checkpoint and scrutinised.

"When you compare the young people now with us they have all this freedom and they're so ungrateful and don't appreciate what they've got," says 34-year-old Nassim.


Frustrated students have taken to the streets
"For us life now is like heaven, but the young think it's hell and they constantly moan and groan about everything," she says, pointing out that in the early years of the revolution there was no music at all but now there are Iranian rock bands who give concerts.

The dilemma for the reformists is whether giving concessions to young people allows them more room for expression and thus protects the Islamic system of government - or whether it just whets their appetites for more freedoms that may ultimately undermine the system.

"The older generation is not able to communicate properly with the young," says journalist Minda Badiyi, who specialises in youth issues and teaches communications at university level.

"Today's young people want freedoms in line with what the young have everywhere else in the world. Because they are denied that we are a society in crisis," she says.

'Calm and patient'

Mrs Badiyi says the recent student unrest was a manifestation of this sense of discontent that officials have failed to address.

In particular she says two decades after the revolution the state has failed to convince young girls of the need to wear headscarves and modest dress.


Older women say the young do not know how lucky they are
"The government says we are an Islamic state and everyone must cover up, but the resistance of young girls is a big problem for them," she says.

She argues that women should choose Islamic dress voluntarily based on their belief and not as a dictate from above.

"We must try to balance the capacity for change and the demands of the younger generation," says reformist MP Dr Elaheh Koolaee.

"It's very, very difficult, I know, but we must try," she says explaining the need for "dialogue with the younger generation to convince them to be calm, to be patient".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3053383.stm
93 posted on 07/13/2003 12:06:57 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: seamole
My gosh, this is the first I have heard of this. The media is too busy telling us Bush lied while a foreign government is blocking our satellite feeds?
94 posted on 07/13/2003 12:12:48 AM PDT by ladyinred (exactly what does a table show anyway?)
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To: seamole
LOL! I never thought of that! That would explain the 24/7 of the same ole story on all of the news networks!
96 posted on 07/13/2003 12:25:10 AM PDT by ladyinred (exactly what does a table show anyway?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The same AP version is also on MSNBC web site
97 posted on 07/13/2003 5:26:12 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: F14 Pilot
Good Morning. Or Afternoon.
98 posted on 07/13/2003 5:47:43 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: DoctorZIn
Been emailing blogs, also WIRED mag, also university tech schools, professors I see listed with sites.
Also, thought we should email copies of journalism arrest stories to Universities w/ journalism school and school newspaper.
99 posted on 07/13/2003 6:43:35 AM PDT by nuconvert
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