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CA: Kindergarten proposal would bar 4-year-olds
Mercury News ^ | 7.12.03 | Joelle Tessler and Jessica Portner

Posted on 07/12/2003 10:05:50 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:31:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Kevin Iwai is excited about starting kindergarten at Frank Huff School in Mountain View this fall.

But the state budget crisis might spoil his plans.

Right now, any child in California who turns 5 by Dec. 2 is entitled to attend kindergarten in the fall. But to help deal with the state's financial crisis, lawmakers are considering changing the cutoff date to Sept. 1, a move that would force Kevin and about 100,000 children to wait another year before entering school.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; kindergarten; proposal

1 posted on 07/12/2003 10:05:50 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
ah, who needs school anyway. <<< \ sarcasm >>>>>>
2 posted on 07/12/2003 10:07:21 AM PDT by tuna_battle_slight_return (Sine waves.)
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4 posted on 07/12/2003 10:09:52 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't think anyone should enter pubic school until they're 30.

FMCDH

5 posted on 07/12/2003 10:41:27 AM PDT by nothingnew (the pendulum swings and the libs are in the pit)
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To: NormsRevenge
Cut that spending. Cut it!

It's not even objectively clear that this cut will hurt anyone. Early education specialists have stressed that putting many 4-year-olds in K'garten does them more harm than good, vs. waiting until they are 5. All this "cut" would do is restore what always was the rule when I went, which was: if you're not 5 by Labor Day, then "see you next year." (Heck, many parents held back their boys til age 6 so that they'd be older/bigger in high school for footballing's sake, something I don't approve of.)
6 posted on 07/12/2003 11:01:20 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101
(Heck, many parents held back their boys til age 6 so that they'd be older/bigger in high school for footballing's sake, something I don't approve of.)

We kept our son (August birthday) out of kindergarten until age six. Not because of football .... but because he was woefully immature for school at age 5. Little did we know then how BAD the school system was, anyway. We ended up pulling him out after 1st grade, and homeschooling him through 8th grade.

He's now back in school--11th grade this fall. Doing very well ...... playing football, too! But he is the second oldest kid in this class.

7 posted on 07/12/2003 11:09:41 AM PDT by RightField (the older you get ..... the older "old" is ......)
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To: yerhtoast
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO now I'll have to watch my own kids!


You had 'em..YOU watch 'em! :-p LOL

8 posted on 07/12/2003 11:30:32 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Support FRee Republic ..... http://www.DRAFTTOM.com ..... Semper Fi)
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To: pogo101
What you said is the absolute truth. Of course, you won't read it in ANY California newspaper.
9 posted on 07/12/2003 11:33:10 AM PDT by Hildy
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10 posted on 07/12/2003 11:51:40 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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To: pogo101
Cut the spending is right!
11 posted on 07/12/2003 11:52:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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To: NormsRevenge
Four year olds do not belong in kindergarten with 5 and 6 year olds. The socialist libs just want more money for attendance and an earlier opportunity for indoctrination (just wait til mandatory 'government preschool').
12 posted on 07/12/2003 12:14:13 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
No, 6 year olds do not belong in K with 4 and 5 yr olds.
13 posted on 07/12/2003 12:33:41 PM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: olivia3boys
Children who enter kindergarten at the age of 5 frequently turn 6 during the school year. Four year olds should not be in kindergarten period, regardless of when they turn five during the year.
14 posted on 07/12/2003 1:35:00 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
As a teacher, I completely agree with you that 4 year olds do not belong in kindergarten. What many people are not realizing is that these children are a year behind their ENTIRE k-12 experience. That extra time to mature is crucial to the current demands of the curriculum.
15 posted on 07/14/2003 4:21:20 PM PDT by kmiller1k (remain calm)
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To: pogo101
I entered k'garten at 4 and readily agree that even though you might be able to handle the learning curve as you grow older, there's the simple fact that your body lags behind everyone else in the class.

Parents think that they're giving their smart youngster a boost, but it catches up to them, especially as puberty sets in, making the poor kid feel like an outsider.

One year may not seem like much to an adult, but as any kid knows, a year is an eternity!
16 posted on 07/14/2003 4:31:26 PM PDT by spoiler2
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To: spoiler2
I too was 4 in kindergarten, if only for the first month. But while it is good to end up with an "extra year of life" (or, of post-education life), I probably paid a price in terms of being picked on more. (I was brainy anyway, and being smaller than I'd otherwise have been could not have helped.)
17 posted on 07/14/2003 4:41:57 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: NormsRevenge
Backers say the plan would cut enrollment by roughly 25 percent -- saving an estimated $750 million a year.

Okay, I'm showing my ignorance here, I know, but how is it going to save $750 million a year. Won't that just be the first year that they adjust the age and from then on it will just be like before. Same amount of chilluns in school?

18 posted on 07/14/2003 4:42:28 PM PDT by Pure Country
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To: NormsRevenge
This is the problem. No not 4 years old in Kindergarden, but any proposed cut will be fought as if the world will come to an end if the funding does not stay in place.

The media is part of the problem. Instead of presenting a balanced report on the need to cut spending they go out and find someone, any one, the more pathetic the better that may, (and I say may) be hurt by the cut.

Those that will not compromise now, will not like it later when the taxpayers finally have had enough and change that little item in the state consitution demanding 50% of the budget be for education.

19 posted on 07/14/2003 4:57:46 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Pure Country
Just keep thinking about the amount of 4 year olds held out THIS year and then the following year and so on...What it would do for the districts is give them some breathing room and boost the scores for the classes that enter as 5 year olds.
20 posted on 07/14/2003 5:19:27 PM PDT by kmiller1k (remain calm)
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