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To: xzins
Interesting after-action reports. I enjoy reading these and their glimpses into the lives of the troops.

The M9 doesn't have stopping power. The .45 stops people, but many can't get accuracy with it.
2 posted on 07/14/2003 1:34:10 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins
Glock makes some sound and very accurate .45 cal weapons. I am a average shooter, but the Glock made me look good. The M9 makes me look like I really am-average shooter.
10 posted on 07/14/2003 3:04:09 AM PDT by Tin-Legions
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To: xzins
The .45 stops people, but many can't get accuracy with it.

I think this is a belief that comes largely from the fact that, toward the end, many of the .45s in the military's inventory were so old that they had simply gotten worn out. Anyone who wants to see what the .45 ACP is capable of need only attend an NRA bullseye competition or IPSC match.

As for recoil, it's really not a very hard kicker. Where it got that reputation is beyond me. Any problems with it are likely due to improper grip and stance.

18 posted on 07/14/2003 4:41:11 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: xzins
The .45 stops people, but many can't get accuracy with it.

Strictly training issue, period- I've taught about a dozen women to shoot, and without exception they shot my 1911 best.

27 posted on 07/14/2003 6:19:36 AM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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When I was in field artillery, our advanced party wish list had this weapon on it: MP5Sd2 or 3. Advanced party was usually the first group from our unit to make contact with the opfor, and the M-16A2 was just to big, and to loud to use in close quarters.
My unit was a light towed unit, and year after year during annual training advanced party would literally run over the opfor and end up in a close range gun battle, usually less than 25 meters in range.

We also wanted the M249 with pistol front grip, at least two, for advance party sweeps. Again, the 16 was too big and too loud, and it didn't have sufficient suppressive fire volume for the real tough times. (The old spray and pray.)
I've been out of the service for about three years now, and am now seeing some of our recommendations coming to life in other units.
We also were dissatisfied with the Beretta M-9.
We preferred a good Sig Sauer, Glock, or H&K USP over the M-9 anyday.
Not that we'd ever get to see anything like that anyday within my lifetime. *chuckle*
That's why we called it our wish list.
30 posted on 07/14/2003 6:27:53 AM PDT by Darksheare ("A Predator's Eyes Are Always In Front.")
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