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Patrick J. Buchanan: Of "Treason" and Tailgunner Joe
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| 07-16-03
| Buchanan, Patrick J.
Posted on 07/16/2003 6:37:51 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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I have never understood why Churchill and FDR went to war to free Poland of Hitler, then sat by and allowed Poland to come under Stalin's domination.
To: Poohbah; Catspaw; deport; dighton; BlueLancer
Lord Haw Haw speaks again.
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posted on
07/16/2003 6:40:43 AM PDT
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(...guess we could call him Berlin Pat along with his other sobriquet, Baghdad Pat...)
To: Theodore R.
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posted on
07/16/2003 6:40:44 AM PDT
by
Catspaw
To: Theodore R.
To: Theodore R.
Great Britain went to war with Hitler,we had war declared on us by Germany after Pearl Harbor.Roosevelt seemed naive,dumb or worse when Yalta agreements were reached.Alger Hiss,Soviet spy was at his side advising Roosevelt and the rest is history.(Simplistic review,I know)
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posted on
07/16/2003 6:45:24 AM PDT
by
MEG33
To: SquirrelKing
Is Mrs. McCarthy buried to his right or left? I wonder how many people visit the grave when they are in Appleton? Probably many passers-by have no longer heard of McCarthy and do not know his connection to Appleton.
To: Theodore R.
And don't forget, there are many of them left in positions of power and authority who still wish to promote stalin's ideals. Expose them where they are found, force them to admit their views; remove them from power.
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posted on
07/16/2003 6:56:44 AM PDT
by
ampat
To: Theodore R.
"Treason" - great book, required reading. Buchanon has written what amounts to a good review. Thanks for the post.
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posted on
07/16/2003 6:58:01 AM PDT
by
hauerf
To: Theodore R.
This is a theme of Ann Coulter's brave book, "Treason," which is a heroic defense of that most reviled of patriots. Joe had his flaws and made his mistakes, but on the century's great issue the mortal struggle between America and the evil empire of Lenin and Stalin for control of mankind's destiny Joe was right and his enemies worse than wrong. One of the things I always found entertaining about all this is something the liberals move heaven and earth to try to bury. Joe McCarthy had a couple of lieutenants that did a great deal of heavy lifting. One was a guy by the name of Roy Cohn.
The other was Robert Kennedy. And that's the rest of the story.
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posted on
07/16/2003 6:59:21 AM PDT
by
stevem
To: Theodore R.
Where is Appleton?
To: Sunshine Sister
Appleton has population of 66,000. It is just SW of Green Bay in eastern WI.
To: Chancellor Palpatine
I am no fan of Pat but he is absolutely correct on this subject.
His comment about Truman inviting Stalin is subject to other interpretations, though. Remember, while still a Senator, Harry was in favor of letting the Nazis and Reds kill each other as long as we weren't involved.
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posted on
07/16/2003 7:08:23 AM PDT
by
justshutupandtakeit
(RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
To: Theodore R.
Third, was America gripped by a McCarthy-induced "hysteria" in the 1950s? Total nonsense.Fourth, did McCarthy's tactics advance the cause of anti-Communism by one iota? No.
Sorry, but having one's heart in the right place only counts for liberals.
To: Chancellor Palpatine
"The great failing of conservatives, Whittaker Chambers wrote, is that they do not retrieve their wounded."Somewhere .. in some article or book .. I read a somewhat similar statement:
The function of moderate Republicans is to shoot the wounded.
I can't remember where I read it, but I thought it amusing at the time.
8')
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posted on
07/16/2003 7:34:06 AM PDT
by
BlueLancer
(Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængruppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
To: Physicist
Fourth, did McCarthy's tactics advance the cause of anti-Communism by one iota? No. YES!
Didn't you read Pat's comment, that they were all thrown out in 1952 with Joe leading the charge?
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posted on
07/16/2003 7:34:33 AM PDT
by
duckln
To: Chancellor Palpatine
It took you three whole minutes to ping this Buchanan thread. Is everything OK?
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posted on
07/16/2003 7:46:00 AM PDT
by
skeeter
(Fac ut vivas)
To: Physicist
did McCarthy's tactics advance the cause of anti-Communism by one iota? No. So is it your point that he should have kept quiet about Communist spying at the highest levels of the U.S. government? Who else was out there advancing the cause of anti-communism?
To: Bernard Marx; Physicist
So is it your point that he should have kept quiet about Communist spying at the highest levels of the U.S. government?There's a right way and a wrong way to open one's mouth, and McCarthy opted for the wrong way.
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posted on
07/16/2003 8:30:12 AM PDT
by
Poohbah
(Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
To: Poohbah
My question wasn't addressed to you but since you're speaking for Physicist why don't you answer the second part of my question: "Who else was out there advancing the cause of anti-communism?" Nixon? Look what happened to him. And while you're at it, please explain what the "right way" of opening one's mouth is.
To: Bernard Marx
My question wasn't addressed to you but since you're speaking for Physicist why don't you answer the second part of my question: "Who else was out there advancing the cause of anti-communism?" Nixon? Look what happened to him. And while you're at it, please explain what the "right way" of opening one's mouth is.Nixon got things done. McCarthy simply (a) grandstanded and (b) made ALL anti-communists look like grandstanders.
The "right way" is as follows:
1. Don't make allegations unless you're dead certain your right. McCarthy FREQUENTLY violated this rule.
2. Don't make up figures (the ever-shifting number of "card-carrying Communists" in the State Department, for example).
3. Don't wave your laundry list (literally) during a speech and say "I have here a list of Communists in..." Eventually, the fact that you're just waving a list that has two shirts, three pairs of pants, and six boxers will get out.
4. Don't use people of dubious ethics (Roy Cohn, Bobby Kennedy) to do "dirty work." If the work's too dirty for you to do it yourself, it shouldn't be done.
5. Remember that you are supposed to be a good guy. Act like one.
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posted on
07/16/2003 8:55:32 AM PDT
by
Poohbah
(Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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