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Court Rejects Davidian Claim Against U.S.
Apukes ^ | 7-16-03 | ALAN SAYRE

Posted on 07/16/2003 10:01:25 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

Court Rejects Davidian Claim Against U.S.
Tue Jul 15, 9:52 AM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!

By ALAN SAYRE, Associated Press Writer

NEW ORLEANS - A federal appeals court rejected an attempt by survivors to collect damages from the government for the deadly 1993 confrontation outside Waco, Texas, between federal agents and members of the Branch Davidian cult.

Without dissent, a three-judge panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites) late Monday turned aside contentions that a lower court judge who ruled against the survivors was biased.

Scores of Branch Davidian members, including leader David Koresh, were killed in 1993 when government agents stormed their compound after a weekslong standoff. Survivors have been pursuing a wrongful death claim for years.

In September 2000 in Waco, U.S. District Judge Walter Smith rejected their lawsuit, backing the government contention that agents did not use excessive force in their tear gas assault on the compound. Smith found the Davidians themselves set the fire that killed nearly 80 men, women and children.

The appeal before the 5th Circuit basically dealt with one question: Was Smith biased against the Davidians because of remarks he made during the trial and his past relationships with government attorneys?

"We conclude that appellants' allegations do not reflect conduct that would cause a reasonable observer to question Judge Smith's impartiality," Chief 5th Circuit Judge Edith Jones wrote for the panel.

Attorneys for the survivors did not immediate return calls seeking comment Tuesday morning.

The Davidians had argued that Smith's comments on and off the bench showed "deep-seated antagonism" and "preconceptions" about the group, whose beliefs encompassed fierce hostility toward the government.

As an example, the survivors said Smith had called one Branch Davidian follower "crazy" and a murderer.

But government attorneys said Smith "displayed patience and diligence wading through enormously complicated legal and factual claims."

On Feb. 28, 1993, federal agents stormed the Branch Davidian compound looking for stockpiled automatic weapons and hand grenades. Four federal agents and three Davidians were killed in the clash.

For 51 days, the government attempted to get cult followers to leave the compound. On April 19, agents fired tear gas rounds into the compound and fire destroyed it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: butcher; davidians; jbts; klinton; reno; waco
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To: SoulStorms
exodus - It was pre-meditated murder, for no reason other than to publicize the "goodness" of the ATF, who were worried about losing some of their funding.
SoulStorms - Wait...wasn't the Clinton administration also on their "hate speech" and "anti-government militia" campaigns to prepare the public for the restrictive laws waiting to be passed?

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I wouldn't doubt that being part of the plan, but the "hate speach" and "anti-government militia" accusations didn't get into gear until a year later, when the Murry Federal Building was destroyed in Oklahoma City.

The Oklahoma bombing marked the surrender of the Republican Party. After Bill Clinton's "hate speach" accusations, Republican "leaders" abandoned the Contract with America, and gave Bill Clinton anything he asked for.

21 posted on 07/16/2003 2:57:13 PM PDT by exodus
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To: exodus
The Oklahoma bombing marked the surrender of the Republican Party. After Bill Clinton's "hate speach" accusations, Republican "leaders" abandoned the Contract with America, and gave Bill Clinton anything he asked for.

Well, it was that or get the IRS sicced upon you or you would die a mysterious but controversial death.

22 posted on 07/16/2003 3:06:02 PM PDT by Houmatt (And if she asks you why you can tell her that I told you that I long, for sulfur in the air.........)
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To: HaveGunWillTravel
Your cartoon strip is great.
23 posted on 07/16/2003 4:09:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Dan from Michigan
It was Waco that opened up my eyes as to what sort of creature WJC was. I saw him make some assertions that I questioned and sort of muscle the reporters who didn't know much about what was going on in TX. It was shameless. Clinton at his best in other words.
24 posted on 07/16/2003 6:04:42 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: DoughtyOne
Thanks. It's not mine, though. It's by a freeper named pjcomix.
25 posted on 07/16/2003 6:49:59 PM PDT by HaveGunWillTravel
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To: Dan from Michigan; Alamo-Girl; Yellow Rose of Texas
Another sad day.
26 posted on 07/16/2003 7:41:14 PM PDT by amom
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To: amom
Indeed. Thanks for the heads up!
27 posted on 07/16/2003 7:58:12 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: HaveGunWillTravel
Well it was great. Thanks for the info and post.
28 posted on 07/16/2003 10:03:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: AAABEST
a Day will come with justice in tow.
29 posted on 07/17/2003 1:12:26 AM PDT by King Prout (people hear and do not listen, see and do not observe, speak without thought, post and not edit)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I will never forget Waco. It was on that day that the America I had believed in since childhood died.
30 posted on 07/17/2003 6:01:12 AM PDT by Ronin (Qui tacet consentit!)
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To: Pompah
They cover their butt's with the old Clinton stand by. "Mistakes were made."
I'll probably get flamed for this but I believe that the "mistakes were made" comment was by former President Ronald Reagan regarding the Iran Conra affair.
31 posted on 07/17/2003 9:31:35 AM PDT by Moleman
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