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'Bring It on,' Climatologist Says of Global Warming Litigation
CNSNews.com ^ | 7/18/03 | Marc Morano

Posted on 07/18/2003 3:17:54 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - A well-known climatologist is so confident science does not support the claims in a new legal effort against fossil fuel-emitting businesses that he has a message for the coalition of international environmental groups filing the lawsuit: "Bring it on."

The litigation effort is seeking to penalize companies for contributing to climate change because of their emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses.

Patrick J. Michaels said businesses should not be concerned about the new litigation efforts.

"I say, 'Bring it on.' If we ever get into a court of law, the holes in the arguments about disastrous climate change will be self-evident," Michaels told CNSNews.com.

"When confronted with facts, these cases by and large will fall apart," he added.

Michaels, author of the book Satanic Gasses: Clearing the Air About Global Warming and an environmental sciences professor at the University of Virginia, believes that "alarmist" claims of human-caused global warming are unfounded. He is also a senior fellow in environmental studies with the libertarian Cato Institute.

Michaels believes any climate change that may occur would not impact the Earth or its inhabitants in any significant way.

"The [climate] science is settled in a very non-alarmist way," he added.

Michaels does not see any parallel with tobacco lawsuits and the upcoming climate change lawsuits.

"Once this gets into the judicial process, you are going to see it is, in fact, the opposite of tobacco. With tobacco, we had a large number of people dying correlated with smoking, and with global warming, we have a large number of people living a longer and longer life, correlated with the use of [greenhouse gas-emitting] fossil fuels," he said.

"[Corporations] should welcome [the lawsuits]; it will finally place the scientific flaw in the public record, and hopefully, in front of a court of law. It is a huge mistake for the other side to do this," Michaels added.

The recently formed coalition of 70 international environmental organizations called the Climate Justice Programme (CJP) announced its intention to follow the lead of lawsuits against tobacco and fast food companies and begin litigating against companies it considers contributors to climate change.

Roda Verheyen, co-director of the CJP, believes that the prospect of human-caused global warming must be taken very seriously and said the courts are the next logical step to take the climate change debate.

"We now need to take [climate] science to the courts so that greenhouse gas emissions cannot continue with impunity," Verheyen said.

"We will try to enforce internationally and collaboratively the laws that exist now, to hold perpetrators accountable and liable for the consequences of their actions," Verheyen added.

Peter Roderick, another co-director of the CJP, said the litigation is necessary because of the "serious consequences" of greenhouse gas emissions.

"We cannot stand by and allow governments and the fossil fuel lobby to screw up the planet," Roderick said.

'The environmentalists lost'

Michaels believes the CJP's efforts will fail and pointed to several recent cases regarding carbon dioxide emissions brought by "Greens" because of the alleged negative climate effects and noted the Greens failed to win.

"Whenever the scientists who can demonstrate that warming fears have been greatly exaggerated were allowed to testify, the result was that no significant additional costs were imposed [on industry]. In other words, the environmentalists lost," Michaels explained.

The U.S. coordinator for the CJP, Jon Sohn, said the climate change litigation is necessary to protect future generations.

"Legal action is required to prompt positive action and provide a secure future for our children," Sohn said.

But Michaels believes the only threat to humans would occur if the Greens were somehow successful in court against these companies and drastically reduced the use of fossil fuels.

"If they win, they better produce an alternative [to fossil fuels] because the economic damage [the environmentalists] would cause will produce more morbidity and mortality" than any perceived climate change, Michaels said.

See Earlier Story:
'Alarmist' Global Warming Claims Unfounded Says Climatologist
(July 14, 2003)

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1 posted on 07/18/2003 3:17:54 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
These hand wringers will destroy jobs.
2 posted on 07/18/2003 3:28:05 AM PDT by tkathy
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3 posted on 07/18/2003 3:29:57 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: kattracks
Tis possible that the legal fees run up by the green-meanies will be paid by corporate bigshots that hob-nob with the corporate bigshots who are being sued. The left does not have enough money to fund all of the activities of the left.
4 posted on 07/18/2003 3:43:50 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: kattracks
Kakkate koi!

I love these science stories where the enviro-whackjobs are exposed as frauds. Someday, we should start a bumplist for it. There are quite a few scientists who speak out against environmentalism run amok.
5 posted on 07/18/2003 3:53:19 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: tkathy
Not just jobs...

The more radical leaders of this movement want to return man to the "noble savage" state that is in harmony with nature. Think about the ramifications of that...
7 posted on 07/18/2003 4:30:10 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente
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To: kattracks
He has far more faith in the legal system's ability to sort out technical questions than I do. The Greens can get just as many expert witnesses as he can. In my experience sophistry trumps science in these forums because it makes less demands on the audience.
8 posted on 07/18/2003 4:43:38 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("ALL THE NEWS THAT FITS, WE PRINT")
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To: El Laton Caliente
I can hardly wait to hitch up the horses to the wagon to go to the super market. Of course, I'll bring my super duper "pooper scooper" with me to pick up the "emissions".

The problem with enviros are they "pick" a certain point in time to suit their fancy and totally disregard a "growing population".

If our founders had their foresight, we'd all be gathering wood for the fire, growing our own crops and there wouldn't be a computer in sight.

Yes, yes...I vote for two buggies in every barn!!!

9 posted on 07/18/2003 4:49:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: El Laton Caliente
No, the envirowacko's want man reduced to a pre-"noble savage" existence. After all, stone age cultures all still had fire. The only way to please these people is if fire, on of the earliest discoveries of mankind, was banned.
10 posted on 07/18/2003 5:54:59 AM PDT by doc30
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"No, the envirowacko's want man reduced to a pre-"noble savage" existence. After all, stone age cultures all still had fire. The only way to please these people is if fire, on of the earliest discoveries of mankind, was banned."

You might add that the wackos don't expect to live like the rest of us. They still want all the comforts of home.
11 posted on 07/18/2003 6:51:03 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: kattracks
They problem is that most people can't follow all the science. They need to make their arguments simple enough for a Jerry Springer fan to understand.
12 posted on 07/18/2003 8:28:52 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: kattracks
We near the end of an 11,000 year interglacial period. Contrsry to "global warming" alarmists, climate cycle evidence would predict a cooling trend. Glacial freezing would follow.
We may yet see the advantage of greenhouse gases...if only for the short term.
13 posted on 07/18/2003 9:13:21 AM PDT by born yesterday
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To: farmfriend
Ping
14 posted on 07/19/2003 3:41:17 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber!)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.

15 posted on 07/19/2003 3:48:30 AM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
16 posted on 07/19/2003 3:54:40 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Hey don't forget me! lol Follow the money....follow the money....
17 posted on 07/19/2003 3:56:15 AM PDT by countrydummy
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To: farmfriend
We need to get this guy on O'Reilly.
18 posted on 07/19/2003 5:35:40 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert
O'Reilly is a big Chicken Little Global Warming nut.
19 posted on 07/19/2003 6:41:09 AM PDT by sauropod (There's room for all God's creatures... right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: kattracks
Now is a good time to review and summarize all the lies and distortions that these losers have admitted to making up in their more candid moments.
20 posted on 07/19/2003 6:55:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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