Lonely Death of Man Who Found Saddam’s Anthrax (David Kelly)

Times of London ^ | July 19, 2003

[nothingnew]

I am happy to see I am not the only one confused about this. :-)

Now I'm happy too. I'm easily cornfused when it comes to bullsh*t investigations.See my #13. Don't know if you remember that crap.

FMCDH

[maxwellp]

To me the whole article is screwy.

[AntiGuv]

Those possibilities were ruled out.

[nothingnew]

So no one is ruling out the possibility that he set himself on fire and burned to death while jumping off a cliff after swallowing glass?

Heh heh heh...see #13.

It's been a long strange trip, and it's gettin' stranger.

FMCDH

[Wilhelm Tell]

If this was an "Arkancide," he would have shot himself in the back at long range, then cleverly moved his own dead body elsewhere. Maybe even buried himself.

[JBCiejka]

I can see ruling out a gunshot, stabbing, hanging, or wrist slashing. But there is no one that can rule out natural causes, seizure, poisoning, heart attack, etc., without an autopsy. How absurd. We would not need any coroners for anything, I guess.

[AAABEST]

Dr Kelly apparently found it impossible to live with his inner torment.

A police source ruled out hanging, an overdose, a gunshot wound or natural causes in his death.

This story has been confusing me all day, it started at 6:30 this morning. If they don't know how he died, how do they know he killed himself? I'm going to ask for the second time for someone to straighten me out here.

[AntiGuv]

Perhaps they know the cause but just aren't telling us yet?

[AntiGuv]

You need to keep in mind the politics of the publications. The Times of London and the Telegraph, by example, would attempt to insinuate suicide even without the reason whereas the Guardian and the Independent would attempt to implicate foul play even without evidence.

[mdittmar]

We shall see.

[McGavin999]

He was the bane of Saddam Hussein, who personally wanted him expelled from the country because he knew where ‘the bodies were buried’.”

Anyone think about this angle?

[AntiGuv]

We most certainly shall! :p

If the powers that be want us to see..

[maestro]

In 1988, while Dr Kelly was working at Porton Down, Iraq tried unsuccessfully to obtain a weapons-grade strain of anthrax from the laboratory. At about the same time, Saddam did manage to get some anthrax from the United States.

And,......just who all was still 'dealing' in 1988?

Monte Carlo.......????

/sarcasm

[AntiGuv]

No good reason to think much about it since it's nearly absurd to think that Saddam in the midst of his woes is worried about some random Brit scientist...

[BushCountry]

I said this on a earlier post, but...

Wow! It is going to be hard not to put on a tin-foiled hat.

[aristeides]

But there is no one that can rule out natural causes, seizure, poisoning, heart attack, etc., without an autopsy.

Can one not rule them out if there is an apparent nonnatural cause of death?

[McGavin999]

Wouldn't have to be Saddam. Might be someone from the government that has been helping Saddam. Someone who's worried about us finding the stuff.

[Shermy]

"Prat and a fall guy." Like Hatfill?

My (current) intuition says elsewise. Not a fall guy, but a guy who got to involved, thought he knew more than he did, has gripes and is overly sensitive. His "sexed up" comment is not denied - then what else did he say? It seems to have got conflated with the Niger Uranium Letter - and he's not a nuclear expert. He commented upon the "45 minutes" to get bioweapons ready from what I've read. With the libs on the anti-war path with the ridiculous Niger issue precision about what he said is probably lost. I suspect he wanted to get his two cents in, and it came back to bite him.

Here's some things in the article that grabbed me:

"But he omitted to get authorisation for the encounter."
As if he would get it if he asked. B.S.

"He did not believe he was the “main source”"
In other words, he was a source.

"Asked whether he had said anything that Mr Gilligan might have interpreted as identifying Mr Campbell “sexing-up” the dossier, Dr Kelly dodged the question. “I find it very difficult to think back to a conversation I had six weeks ago,” he said.
More B.S. Deflection and diversion. He's crafty - but maybe beyond his abilities to control.

"And the man whose semantic precision was a source of wonder to his admirers concluded: “It does not sound like the sort of thing I would say.”"
Yes, but did he say it? As I said, he's full of B.S. And the fall back on the purity of his religion and such - I wonder why the Times is proffering such a puff piece apologia for this guy.

Anyway, his faults will be ignored so that Blair, the Bush, and the War will be sullied. That's the apparent media focus. The one parallel to Hatfill I can see is Hatfill's overly-knowledgable comment to a "friend" that the anthrax could be made "cheaply, and the equipment dumped in a lake." That one came back to bite him big time.

[newfreep]

"If this was an "Arkancide," he would have shot himself in the back at long range.."

I want to know if his car keys were found at the scene.....sorry, wrong Arkancide.

[Shermy]

Dr Kelly apparently found it impossible to live with his inner torment.

Inner torment that he was caught in his own web. I was thinking "arkancide" at first, I think otherwise now.