Activists train to live in trees to halt Bush logging plans

Detroit News ^ | July 19, 2003 | Mark Matthews

[fightinJAG]

HUGHES CREEK CAMPGROUND, Mont. -- David Muller hunkered down and watched as an instructor tied a timber hitch around three 20-foot logs. Soon Muller would be practicing knot tying himself, and compass reading and tree climbing. The 56-year-old bookseller from Alaska was in training, not as an outdoorsman but as a political activist.

[Wonder Warthog]

"They should be ordered off the trees (which are private property after they are sold for logging) and then arrested for tresspassing if they do not comply."

Well, I think the point is that the trees they want to "protect" are on gov't property (now, whether gov't should have ANY property other than that small amount defined in the Constitution is a whole other matter).

Nonetheless--the correct response to these tree-sitters is to go in and cut down all the trees except the one they are sitting in, go away until they climb down in disgust, and then come back and cut THAT one down.

[Wonder Warthog]

"..the worst part is where these kids go to the bathroom. It can get ugly around those trees..."

Well, the TREES probably love it. After all, it's just more fertilizer.

[laredo44]

"One of the most empowering things you can do is to know that you can effect change when you sit in a tree or blockade a road," she said.

Another "unside-downism" from the kooks on the commune. In fact, they are attempting to prevent change, not effect it.

[Arkie2]

A fast moving crown fire might be just the ticket.

[Lucy Lake]

Pinging...

[Sacajaweau]

What is this small amount of goverment property defined in the constitution?? The properties exist in the name of "The People of the United States". The government "manages" it.

[sergeantdave]

In conversations around the camp, many here speak with a fervor and invoke the names of their role models - Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Che, Pol Pot, Lenin, Trotsky...

[Wonder Warthog]

"What is this small amount of goverment property defined in the constitution?? The properties exist in the name of "The People of the United States". The government "manages" it."

Basically, the Federal government is only supposed to own the District of Columbia, and various military (and similar)installations. I don't recall the exact language and I'm too lazy to look it up this early on a weekend. I do know that there is ZIP in it about "national parks, national forests" and all the rest of the so-called "federal land". In my opinion, ALL of these lands should be the property of the states in which they are located, and should be turned over to them.

"Federal land" is turning into just another socialist boondoggle.

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[Pearls Before Swine]

He wants to protect the trees. Do you think he'll stay in his seat when the forest fires due to undercutting and low road maintenance come?

[Sacajaweau]

Federal land came about as each of the Colonial States ceded all their lands west of their borders. There is a very early map showing the proposed division of those remaining lands into future states as well as the rules for their division. Lands that were not "bought" or "retained" remained Federal lands within a state. In some cases, the Federal government couldn't "give them away".

[yankeedame]

The glamour activity in camp is tree climbing. Meredith Jefferson, a recent graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, practiced coiling the end of a rope to form a weighted bullet that she then tossed over the branch of a tree.

But doesn't this cause the tree to recoil in pain?
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No, but I'll bet it caused her parents a lot of pain.

-"Now, mama, don't cry. It'll be all right..." (pat,pat,pat)

-(sobbing) "Oh, papa, I can't believe this! We scrimped and saved to send Meredith through all those years of collage and this is how she thanks us? Going and sitting in a tree?? Oh, papa!" (sobbing anew)

-"There, there, mama...it'll be all right..."

[Wonder Warthog]

"Federal land came about as each of the Colonial States ceded all their lands west of their borders. There is a very early map showing the proposed division of those remaining lands into future states as well as the rules for their division. Lands that were not "bought" or "retained" remained Federal lands within a state. In some cases, the Federal government couldn't "give them away"."

All true, as the original goal was to provide an orderly process TO TRANSFER THAT LAND TO STATE AND PRIVATE OWNERSHIP (i.e. Federal control was assumed to be temporary). However, that all changed in the early 1900's with the contamination of US political philosophy with European socialist notions, and now the goal appears to be for the Federal government to retain all the land that remains under its control and to obtain as much more as quickly as possible (i.e Federal control is now assumed to be permanent). This is INCREDIBLY dangerous.

The Fedgov should be required to transfer ALL the rest of the lands to either state or private ownership, with the exceptions as originally stated in the Constitution.

[Noumenon]

A fast moving crown fire might be just the ticket.

Or a stray shot.

[George Frm Br00klyn Park]

FJ, Here's hoping their "teachers" are highly incompetent. Embicilism is already
evidenced. Peace and love, George.

[lonestar]

Do these people ever work?

[sauropod]

Ping!

[BigWaveBetty]

Sure I've heard of tree huggers but hadn't ever actually seen one until now.

National Forest Protection Alliance/Greenpeace Forest Action Camp June, 2003 Bitteroot National Forest

[ApesForEvolution]

"What's that up the tree? Is that a greenie whacko staked out?"

Buzzzzzzzzzzzz.............zrrrrrrrrrrrrr........"TIM-BERRRR"!

Memorial services for the greenie whacko will be held Saturday, somewhere in Germany.

The tree can be viewed later at the home of Mr. and Mrs. Johnson in the form of a beautiful bedroom set.

[Arkie2]

Dang officer, I thought it was a squirrel! Honest!