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Is President Bush A Conservative--Sullivan's Question
Andrewsullivan.com ^ | July 21, 2003 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 07/21/2003 8:14:50 PM PDT by publius1

The Liberal Within Is Bush A Conservative?

Is president Bush a conservative?

It may sound like a stupid question but the dizzying mix of policies that this president has pursued - domestically and in foreign affairs -is surprisingly immune to coherent ideological analysis. Where it does seem to make sense, it certainly doesn't look like the classical conservatism of the Regagan-Thatcher years, or the revolutionary conservatism of the Gingrich period. And in some critical ways, it's far less traditionally conservative than the administration of Bill Clinton.

Take a couple of obvious differences between this administration and the last. The Clinton years will rightly go down as a period of intense fiscal sobriety. The president wasn't solely responsible for this: he was backed into a balanced budget (and then surpluses) by a Republican Congress. But the spending record of the Clintonites was extremely tight. Compare that to the Bush record. In a mere two years, this administration has turned an annual surplus of $167 billion into an annual deficit of over $400 billion. In 2001, the projected fiscal future until 2008 was estimated at accumulating $2.9 trillion of surplus - room to tackle the baby-boomer retirement crunch. Last week's White House estimates of the same future period showed a projected increase in government debt at $1.9 trillion. In other words, the Bushies have added a projected extra $4.8 trillion in debt to the U.S. government. In two short years.

Some of this was hardly Bush's fault. The economic impact of 9/11, the sluggish world economy, and expensive wars in Afghanistan and now Iraq all took a bite out of government finances. You could even argue that the big tax cuts Bush has passed have also helped cushion the U.S. and therefore world economy from slipping into a recession. But that still doesn't explain the huge lurch into debt. Even on non-military, non-homeland defense matters, the Bush administration enacted a 6 percent increase in government spending in 2002 and almost 5 percent in 2003. Government is growing strongly as a sector in American life - and Bush is now proposing the biggest new entitlement since Nixon: free or subsidized prescription drugs for the elderly. When you add all this up, you come to an obvious conclusion: the Bush administration is actually a big government liberal administration on fiscal policy. It likes spending money; it takes on big projects; it's quite content to borrow till the fiscal cows come home. Perhaps you could argue that Bush's deficits are designed to restrain future spending growth: but then why add another huge entitlement to the mix? And why not restrain spending now, when you can?

You can see the difference even more vividly when you compare the Africa trips of president Clinton and his successor. Clinton was lionized and loved - but he did virtually nothing on HIV and AIDS in the developing world in eight long years. Clinton did little to stop the holocaust in Rwanda; and did less to ensure adequate treatment for millions of HIV-positive Africans. Bush, in contrast, has proposed the biggest single project for treating AIDS in Africa ever put forward, garnering gushing praise from the likes of Bob Geldof and Bono, but precious little credit in the American, let alone European, press. So who's the conservative?

In foreign policy, Bush's instinct for unilateralism or bilateralism over international bodies has won him a reputation for conservatism. But the scale of his ambitions is anything but conservative. For eight years, Bill Clinton played a conservative game with regard to Middle East terror and conflict: defensive pin-prick strikes against al Qaeda, missiles in the Sudan, a peace-process in Israel, containment of Saddam. Obviously, 9/11 changed the equation dramatically. But the way in which Bush has chosen a strategic and systemic response - deposing the Taliban, ridding the world of the Saddam regime, taking on the enormous task of nation-building in Iraq, isolating the murderous mullahs in Tehran - is the mark of a radical, not a conservative. Bush is far more Gladstone than Disraeli in his approach to the developing world.

On trade, Bush speaks the right words, but has often failed to live up to them. His most notorious decision - to slap high tariffs on imported steel - has been rightly found illegal by the WTO. But Bush is appealing the judgment, thereby weakening the entire apparatus of free trade. Again, he seems to see little benefit in global arrangements designed to treat all countries equally in order to maximize trade between them. Compared to Bill Clinton, who stared down his own party's left to embrace NAFTA and the GATT, Bush is an old-style one-sector-at-a-time protectionist.

On contentious domestic matters, Bush is also no hardline right-winger. In his term of office, there has been no attempt to restrict the number of abortions in America; and the Supreme Court has ratified affirmative action and constitutionalized gay privacy. Bush actually supported the Court's affirmative action ruling and has stayed mum on gay issues, for fear of alienating either the center or his religious right base. In both areas, his policies are very hard to distinguish from his predecessor's - who also supported modest affirmative action and only rhetorically backed gay equality. Sure, Bush has named some worrying fire-breathers to the lower courts. But my hunch is that his Supreme Court pick (if he ever makes one) will be firmly centrist. All in all: the record is socially moderate.

In some ways, Bush is the JFK to Clinton's Eisenhower. After eight long years of fiscal sobriety and foreign policy caution, a young aristocratic president, after a knife-edge victory, cuts taxes and throws American weight around in the world. He has a global vision and some wonderful wordsmiths to craft it. He seems to care less about balanced budgets than moving the economy forward; he's less concerned about the minutiae of intelligence estimates than the broad moral and strategic case for intervention abroad. His typical action is risk-taking - like the war in Iraq or the two big tax cuts. Perhaps his policy mix, like that of many others', is merely a blend of opportunism and gut instinct.

More likely, Bush's conservatism is of a type that is simply more comfortable with the power of government than conservatives usually are. He certainly has little hesitation in using it for conservative ends. That makes sense for Bush, a man who was used to walking around the White House corridors long before he ever won the presidency. To more small-government types and libertarians, it's distressing. To Bush, it's merely full speed ahead. Meanwhile, the government he hands off to his successor will be bigger, more expensive and far more powerful in its anti-terror powers than anything he inherited. Whatever else that is, it's hardly a conservative achievement.


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To: nyconse

I am glad you could provide for her. Being old and alone and sick, without help, is just about one of the most grim pictures I can imagine.

But, I would much prefer some kind of alternative to this subsidy. "Privatized" or what have you.

101 posted on 07/21/2003 10:32:28 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (I'm a (ahem) "Conservative" and I want my drug subsidy!)
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To: publius1
It's all about strategery!!!!
102 posted on 07/21/2003 10:33:19 PM PDT by Porterville (J Marshall asserted the Court's monopoly on the interpretation of the Constitution, may he burn)
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To: Jhoffa_
I am not trying to fight with you-merely to discuss an issue I consider important. We may have disagreements, but we are on the same side. Sorry if I gave the impression of attacking you. It was not my intention. I am an ex-Dem- you know sort of like a reformed smoker. I am passionately against electing democrats. LOL
103 posted on 07/21/2003 10:35:24 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Reagan Man
I agree with you. Spending is going to have to be dealt with. I am truly hoping for privatization to ease some costs associated with medicare and social security. Maybe we should sop giving aid to foregin countries that stab us in the back too.
104 posted on 07/21/2003 10:38:17 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Well thanks, I am sorry if I was nasty with you also..

I really get upset abou tthese things because, you know how inept our fed can be and anytime I hear about something liek this subsidy I:

A) Am positive it's going to cost three times the estimate and will be horribly mis-managed.. I mean to the point of absolute absurdity. A complete mess.

B) Am sure it's going to last forever. Like laws, they pass them quickly, but repealing them is like pulling teeth. You know how this kind of thing goes. If it's showing today, then you can bet the expanded sequal is just over the horizon.

I need to go to bed, I will leave you with the last word.

105 posted on 07/21/2003 10:40:09 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (I'm a (ahem) "Conservative" and I want my drug subsidy!)
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To: Jhoffa_
This may surprise you, but I wish there was an alternative also. I just don't see one right now-given the political situation.
106 posted on 07/21/2003 10:41:02 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: publius1
Bush Should of limited the prescription drug program to the poor or those with extremely high bills.
107 posted on 07/21/2003 10:42:13 PM PDT by Dan Walsh
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To: Joe Bonforte
I'll count you as helping the Demoncrats get elected so we can have a WEAK foreign policy.

The main reason I vote for president has to do with the federal governments main responsibility, and that is keeping this nation SECURE from foreign intrusion. On that, the Democrats get a zero and the Republicans get at least a 75%. The rest aint worth talking about in this day and age. Maybe it will be worth discussion, AFTER we kill and maim all the Islamofacists in the world and the North Korean, Iranian empires.

The rest is inconsequential if we don't have a SECURE nation. Actually, IMO, the Libertarians and Demoncrats and Socialists do NOTHING to protect this country from foreign Intrusion. They are WITH the enemy.... yes, I said the Libertarians, the Anti WAR Libertarians who parade with the Commie/socialists.

BTW, I'm a Republican/Liberarian RLC member.
108 posted on 07/21/2003 10:43:08 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: Reagan Man
It's true that I have a fairly pessimistic outlook - though I wouldn't go so far as doom'n'gloom. I don't see meaningful evidence of robust economic growth on the horizon (keep in mind 1999 was 'only' 3.6%), and I think Kim Jong Il is hellbent on a showdown (time is on his side), and I think this new Medicare benefit will be at least twice as expensive as projected (when those seniors figure out just how many more prescriptions they can then afford). However, I'll compromise and say 21% from now on, since I've been called on the 22-23% estimate in three different threads now. I think it'll prove accurate, but I'm all for compromise! ;^)
109 posted on 07/21/2003 10:44:31 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: publius1
President GW Bush is a God-fearing man who is leading where the Lord is taking him (and us). I pray that God continue to bless him and protect him, for all our sakes.

I have NEVER seen a Republican who is able to tie the Dems into knots - everything they try blows up in their faces, everything he touches eventually turns out right.

So - my advice to y'all: HAVE PATIENCE. This President is guided by a Higher Power. It will all become clear in the end.

Semper Fi.
110 posted on 07/21/2003 10:44:46 PM PDT by Al Simmons
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To: ladyinred
Post 7.... YOu're right ON lady. Well stated. The name of the game is COMPROMISE.. when you head a country with diverse views. He's not just my president, he's there to protect all the Demoncrat/Hitlary asses as well as mine against foreign intruders who wish to do us in.
111 posted on 07/21/2003 10:46:16 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: nyconse
Expenditures by the federal government that involve entitlements, should be means tested. A similiar set of standards should be applied to foreign aid too. After 40 years of LBJ`s Great Society programs, the American people have become accustomed to entitlements from federal tax revenue. It's called wealth transfers. It will take some time to wean American's off these expensive and abusive liberal welfare programs.
112 posted on 07/21/2003 10:46:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Jhoffa_
Sleep well-great discussion. I enjoyed it. I don't like big government either. However, I am afraid if a Dem gets elected that he/she will abandon the war on terror and we'll all get nuked. Therefore, I am willing to give Bush the benefit of the doubt.
113 posted on 07/21/2003 10:46:34 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Reagan Man
I agree, but how are we to wean people off these programs?
114 posted on 07/21/2003 10:47:49 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: AntiGuv
>>>It's true that I have a fairly pessimistic outlook ...

And it's true, I have a fairly optimistic outlook.

>>> ... I'm all for compromise! ;^)

Fair enough.

I think we agree, the federal government taxes too much and spends too much. And something must be done to slow down the advance of the federal bureaucracy.

115 posted on 07/21/2003 10:51:32 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: nyconse
So what is nyconse???? never heard of it. Does it put you to sleep?
116 posted on 07/21/2003 10:53:14 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: publius1
Bush is more in the Eisenhower-Nixon-Bush I line than in the Goldwater-Reagan tradition. There have been some interesting arguments against this thesis, but the fact that the question keeps coming up suggests that it has some validity. To be sure, Bush has social conservative leanings closer to Reagan than to Nixon, but on the question of the role of government he's much more in Nixon's camp.

Is this a bad thing? I can't say for sure, though it's clear others have much stronger views one way or the other. Practical politics have to with what you can do realistically, with what people want, and with what the opposition is doing. The country was deadlocked 50-50 at the last election, and neither the Reagan nor the Gingrich "Revolutions" was able to rollback the size of government. And it was inevitable that post-Cold War politics would be less ideological than what came before, try as activists might to keep the strong feelings of past decades alive. So there is no opening for major change today. American conservatives could live with Bush I, with Nixon and more or less with Eisenhower, and they will put up with Bush II.

But what's disturbing is that President Bush doesn't seem to feel the need or desire to come up with some major conservative budget cutting initiative, or to oppose some major liberal spending program, or to rally the conservative support. That the President doesn't deliver major reductions is a given; that he doesn't try or at least raise the topic is less understandable or excusable. The fact that it doesn't look like he's willing to go any distance to win over conservative support may well hurt him later on. It's not that President Bush can't or won't deliver real change now, it's that he doesn't point any particular direction for the future. The dangers of centrism are bureaucracy and corporatism, timidity and conformity, and Bush doesn't provide real alternatives to the dead hand of the establishment.

117 posted on 07/21/2003 10:53:21 PM PDT by x ("Without the vision thing, the people perish.")
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To: Al Simmons
I agree. We need to be patient. LOL
118 posted on 07/21/2003 10:54:35 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Gracey
great post-lol
119 posted on 07/21/2003 10:56:01 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
I can't contribute anything to this thread. You've said it all for me... almost exactly as I would say it. LOL
120 posted on 07/21/2003 10:58:08 PM PDT by Gracey
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