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NBC NEWS: UDAY & Qusay Hussein "Likely" Captured Or Killed
MSNBC Live | 07-22-03

Posted on 07/22/2003 8:00:18 AM PDT by Brian S

Now being reported on MSNBC


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bringthemon; decapitation; firefight; headsonpikes; iraq; mosul; qusay; roomtemp; sealteam6; sealteamsix; specialforces; taskforce20; uday
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To: Dog; Brian S
Thanks. throw us a bone, willya? ;^)
721 posted on 07/22/2003 10:37:07 AM PDT by Charlie OK
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To: Charlie OK
Here is the lastest from the AP wire...

U.S. officials believe Saddam's sons killed in Mosul raid
SARMAD JALAL, Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, July 22, 2003
©2003 Associated Press

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/07/22/international1249EDT0577.DTL

(07-22) 10:04 PDT MOSUL, Iraq (AP) --

Saddam Hussein's sons Odai and Qusai were believed to have been killed Tuesday in a firefight with U.S. forces at the home of a cousin, a senior U.S. official said. Two other Iraqis also were killed.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said investigators were "awaiting positive DNA testing" to confirm the identities.

The battle took place in this northern city, where residents told an Associated Press Television News cameraman that American soldiers had come to the house looking for Saddam's elder sons.

Members of the 101st Airborne Division had surrounded the house when the fighting broke out. The stone, columned building was left charred and smoldering, its high facade riddled with gaping holes from bullets and heavy weaponry. Kiowa helicopters roamed the sky.

Some Iraqi civilians in Mosul appeared to have been caught in the crossfire. It was not known how many people were injured, but several were taken to a hospital.

In Washington, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld briefed President Bush about the raid in an Oval Office meeting Tuesday morning.

"I am aware of the reports," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters. "I am not in a position to confirm anything."

The United States has offered a $25 million reward for information leading to Saddam's capture and $15 million each for his sons, where were also top leader's in their father's regime.

Also Tuesday, a U.S. soldier was killed and another injured in an ambush along a dangerous road north of Baghdad in the so-called "Sunni Triangle," a center of anti-American resistance

His death brought to 153 the number of U.S. troops killed in action since the March 20 start of war -- six more than during the 1991 Gulf War.

U.S. Central Command in Tampa, Fla., said the attackers used rocket-propelled grenades and small arms in the assault staged along the road between Balad, 50 miles north of Baghdad, and Ramadi, 60 miles west of the capital. It gave no other details.

Both towns lie within the "Sunni Triangle," home to much of the remaining support for Saddam, a Sunni Muslim who used his Baathist Party to oppress the country's Shiite Muslim majority.

The U.S.-led coalition's military occupation of Iraq has been met by constant armed Iraqi resistance, resulting in almost daily deaths of American troops. Many recent assaults have been staged with remote-controlled roadside explosions.

While the military has not released figures on the number of attacks on American forces each day, a senior officer told reporters last week that the attacks were averaging 12 a day.

Seeking to ease fears among exporters to Iraq, the U.S. occupation administration announced it was setting up a trading bank to guarantee payment for imported goods and services,

Outside firms have been hesitant to do business with Iraq, which had been under stiff U.N. economic sanctions since invading Kuwait in 1990, out of worries about being paid.

The new Trade Bank of Iraq, the coalition civilian administration said, will have a pool of $100 million to draw from, with an initial capitalization of $5 million.

The money to support the bank comes from the $1.2 billion Development Fund for Iraq set up by the United States with United Nations approval of the American occupation plan.

It is hoped the new bank will expedite the purchase of materials needed for rebuilding Iraq, including power generators, sewage pipes and oil field equipment.

©2003 Associated Press  

722 posted on 07/22/2003 10:37:17 AM PDT by Brian S ("Mount up everybody and ride to the sound of the gun!")
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To: freedom1st
Rat presidential candidates are trying to find a way to spin this into something bad; perhaps we had intel that Saddam Hussein was in a certain location but we went after the sons instead.
723 posted on 07/22/2003 10:38:21 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Redleg Duke
I also remember being told this: There are only two rounds that really mean anything, the first round you fire, and the last round you fire. Everything else is icing.

And these beloved words: Expend all ammo.
I remember the gunline being so obscured by smoke that we couldn't even see the gun sitting next to us.
And the sand jumping with every round fired.

Our unwritten motto was "Turn in rounds? We're Artillery, we NEVER turn in rounds!"

I still say that smoke was addictive.
And I can still bring it up from memory at will.

Fort Sill, 1996.
724 posted on 07/22/2003 10:38:59 AM PDT by Darksheare ("I didn't say it wouldn't burn, I said it wouldn't hurt.")
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To: Dog
Dog - friend stopped by and I've missed the last hour of news. Any information on how many of our soldiers were injured in this raid?
725 posted on 07/22/2003 10:39:02 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Brian S
my best buddy is in the 101st, so the next time I hear from him, I'm gonna ask if he was the one who offed these scum!
726 posted on 07/22/2003 10:39:38 AM PDT by Charlie OK
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To: zip
More like a real Old Corps Redleg.

If you recall your military history, the first explosive shells were known as bombs, and were fired from mortars. Hence the "bombs bursting in air" of the Star Spangled Banner. Mortars were usually large to very large bore, not terribly mobile weapons used by the artillery or the navy. Civil War photos will show you the naval mortars and the 13" railway mounted siege mortars used by the Yankees.

At least through WWI, with the introduction of infantry mortars for trench warfare, rounds for a mortar were known as "bombs". I think the Brits still use "bomb". In the US, I think the term round has been used at least since the later '30s, but as in the US the Infantry rather than the Artillery owns the mortars, I'm just not sure.

727 posted on 07/22/2003 10:39:42 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Brian S
"His death brought to 153 the number of U.S. troops killed in action since the March 20 start of war."

I think this number includes those killed in accidents, which would make the number of those actually killed due to combat somewhat lower. Anyone know if that's true?

728 posted on 07/22/2003 10:40:54 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Charlie OK
Portions of FOX's Steve Centanni interview with General Helmick. He said they shot at someone in the building and shots were fired back.

Smoke is billowing out of the Eiffel tower - reports haven't seen the pictures yet.
729 posted on 07/22/2003 10:41:56 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: MEGoody
I think this number includes those killed in accidents, which would make the number of those actually killed due to combat somewhat lower. Anyone know if that's true?

If they include non-combat deaths, it's over 200...

730 posted on 07/22/2003 10:44:03 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: BlessedByLiberty
It's starting to shape up as another false alarm, though I surely hope I'm wrong

I don't know how much more of this I can take... It's so frustrating... I, for one, will not even bother with these types of posts going forward, until they confirm that the "big shots" have been captured/killed and identified.

731 posted on 07/22/2003 10:46:15 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: clintonh8r
They drool over Rita Cosby (and keep her on despite weight gain) because she is an absolute genius at getting people to talk to her and her sources are excellant & usually right on.
732 posted on 07/22/2003 10:50:24 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: NYC Republican
Just got back on a few minutes ago - have I missed something that makes you think it's not Saddam's sons?
733 posted on 07/22/2003 10:51:24 AM PDT by Peach
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To: NYC Republican
Yeah, remember the "purple rage" exaggeration. I'm still shocked we got fooled by that...
734 posted on 07/22/2003 10:52:41 AM PDT by Politico2
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To: BOBTHENAILER; Registered; Pharmboy; SkyPilot; aristeides; DPB101; Libloather; razorback-bert; ...

Maybe the DNC could buy their own EMT unit. Would be a "tolerant and compassionate" use of campaign donations.......

....... and so handy to go back and forth between Capitol Hill, Teddy's wet bar, Nancy's plastic surgeon, Biden's hair transplant specialist, Bwaney Frank's proctologist, Frank Lautenberg's geriatric doctor, and Tommy's therapist......................

735 posted on 07/22/2003 10:53:34 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Peach
Susan Estrich, the yelping dog over on DaySide, gave us the scoop on the DNC fax on this; it's just too convenient that we waxed Uday and Qusay the same day that Jessica Lynch came back to her hometown. Memo to Roger Ailes; fire Estrich NOW!!!!
736 posted on 07/22/2003 10:56:07 AM PDT by steveegg (Uday and Qusay are now reunited with their daddy)
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To: steveegg
I turned the channel as soon as I saw Susan EStridge. A dog doesn't change her spots in mid-life.
737 posted on 07/22/2003 10:56:52 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Charlie OK
Estrich jsut said the days of Dems supporting the President "wholeheartedly are over." Excuse me, but when where how did they ever support this President wholeheartedly. She also implied that to have this happen on the same day as Jessica Lynch still raises credibility doubts.

Many vile words come to mind when thinking about how Liberal Dems are undermining this country while cloaking it with our "right to know" when it is only a tool to gain them power over us and our pocketbooks.
738 posted on 07/22/2003 10:58:15 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: CatoRenasci
In the US, I think the term round has been used at least since the later '30s

Thanks. I figured out years ago that if FReepers can't answer a question, then it doesn't have an answer.

739 posted on 07/22/2003 10:58:24 AM PDT by zip
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To: CatoRenasci
In the US, I think the term round has been used at least since the later '30s

Thanks. I figured out years ago that if FReepers can't answer a question, then it doesn't have an answer.

740 posted on 07/22/2003 10:58:25 AM PDT by zip
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