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1 posted on 07/22/2003 10:28:39 AM PDT by presidio9
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2 posted on 07/22/2003 10:31:29 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Indeed, what would that rabbi do?
3 posted on 07/22/2003 10:33:13 AM PDT by onedoug
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People who want to remind themselves to act like Christ are "sheeplike" and "simple"? How insulting. And how untrue. Following Christ in today's world takes courage, conviction, and intelligence.
4 posted on 07/22/2003 10:33:54 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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Religiously minded, but at the same time sheeplike in their simplicity...

And proud of it!!!  ;)
5 posted on 07/22/2003 10:35:11 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.blogspot.com/)
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"The only answer one can credibly imagine from the figure in the Gospels is a slightly impatient.."

Actually, he clearly made the choice of "driving" a donkey into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday to symbolize his humility.

Jesus wouldn't drive some $50K+ SUV, but would probably drive something more akin to a VW Bug. Something very UN-status-symbol.
6 posted on 07/22/2003 10:35:30 AM PDT by Blzbba
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Well, Scriptures do say the Apostls prayed in one accord!
7 posted on 07/22/2003 10:36:02 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Ain't nothing worse than feeling obsolete....)
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What would Jesus drive?

Jesus was a carpenter with his own crew of 12.
In other words a contractor.
He would drive a Crew Cab Long Wheelbase Dually 4wd 1 ton Diesel Pickup

So9

9 posted on 07/22/2003 10:41:45 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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But in secular, pluralist societies there are numerous measures of morality besides Christianity; and besides, Christianity itself is ill-served by the assumption that it provides a fixed set of answers to questions that are inherently unspiritual.

Sure there are "numerous measures of morality besides Christianity" and we are to respect the rights of those who hold those beliefs as long as they don't conflict with the biblically based principles of our Constitution. The biblical principle of "Liberty of conscience" provides for a wide range of individual liberties but it is set within a framework of certain restraints. The mistake the author makes is assuming there are questions that are "inherently unspiritual". All questions are "inherently spiritual" and some questions are left to the conscience of the individual.

10 posted on 07/22/2003 10:47:33 AM PDT by lockeliberty
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The upside to the ad is that it may help push the whole "WWJD?" question out of the public realm and back to where it belongs, in the private space where individuals form and act on their own hard-won religious convictions.

Translation: Christian, closetize thyself. Gays can come out. We're trading. We want to put you back in.

That is not to say that questions of public policy, like questions of private behavior, do not have a moral component. They should and do. But in secular, pluralist societies there are numerous measures of morality besides Christianity;

Translation: Relativism rules. The only absolute is that we cannot allow any absolutist worldview into the public square. Only our absolutes can be absolutely right.

and besides, Christianity itself is ill-served by the assumption that it provides a fixed set of answers to questions that are inherently unspiritual.

Oh, great, so now this outsider can speak on behalf of Christians everywhere! And...more compartmentalization...dividing the world neatly into that which is spiritual vs. that which is unspiritual. Hey, our spiritual God created a material universe and He's interested in the full range of details of life. He can't be boxed into this guy's corner.

11 posted on 07/22/2003 10:48:17 AM PDT by Colofornian
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12 posted on 07/22/2003 10:48:19 AM PDT by Tlaloc
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Also important - "WWJWD" - "What Would John Wayne Do?"
14 posted on 07/22/2003 10:53:23 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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What would Jesus drive?

When I was I kid we used to sing:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord,
He was driving down the highway in a '57 Ford...

21 posted on 07/22/2003 11:40:21 AM PDT by Alouette
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but at the same time sheeplike in their simplicity

Every liberal is a Christian-hating thug.

30 posted on 07/22/2003 12:24:14 PM PDT by moyden2000
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Then-U.S. Vice President Al Gore, for one, declared that, if elected president in 2000, he would be guided by that question in his policymaking.

LOL! Do ya think Jesus would sign on to killing babies, legitimizing homosexuality, and forcing the Boy Scouts to accept gay scout leaders? Not!

32 posted on 07/22/2003 12:36:37 PM PDT by exmarine
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Gee, it seems the little athiest's over in the Japan times are a bit crazy about anybody thinking about Jesus. Perhaps if they stop worshiping rats and cats and bones of grandpa...

What would a rat drive, or what would grandpa's corpse drive just is not as catchy...
33 posted on 07/22/2003 1:08:59 PM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong.)
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"What would Ezekiel do?"... Somehow "What would Zoroaster do?" doesn't have the same zip to it.

Doesn't the writer have Gore and Bush confused? I thought W. launched the "Jesus" debate in pop politics. But, hey, this commercialization of "Jesus" is not all that new. We ought to send some conservative History teachers out there in the field to add some perspective.

36 posted on 07/22/2003 7:46:44 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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Sheeplike & Simple?

Jesus once said that His sheep know His voice

And that The Good Shepherd lays down his life for the sheep

and That He laid down His life "willingly" and that NO ONE takes it from Him

39 posted on 07/23/2003 6:24:23 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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