Text of new Assault Weapons Ban introduced in Senate

[HadEnough]

"We Are Governed By Traitors in high places"

They are also known as the Republicrats.

[BenR2]

My only comment is that if this thing gets to Bush's desk, and he signs it--he will have gotten his last vote from me!

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I hope it doesn't get to his desk, then . . . .

Because, if it does, I believe that Karl (Marx) Rove will advise him to sign it in order to "triangulate the Democratic vote."

[El Gato]

`(42) PISTOL GRIP- The term `pistol grip' means a grip, a thumbhole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.

With this innoucous langauge, along with the change from requiring two bad features for banning to just one, they will have banned all semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines and all semi-auto shotguns, except those with 5 round or less capacity magazines. For the shotguns they'll probably count by using those stubby little shells from Aguela, about 1.5 inches, so a gun designed to hold 3 rounds of 3" shell will be over the top, and thus banned.

And how is this for Orwellian doublespeak:

") A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.

Notice that since the shotguns procured for the military are usually modifications of civilian designs, or sometimes not modifications at all, many semi-auto shotguns not caught up by the "pistol grip" criteria, will be caught up by the "military" criteria. Hope all the sporting clays shooters and the bird hunters take note.

This is the campanion bill to one introduced in the House quite some time ago. The provisions seem identical. It may actually be the sacrificial lamb that the Gun Grabbers will offer up for the "more reasonable" version which merely makes permanent the current Ugly Gun Ban, and also bans import of >10 round magazines, regardles of when manufactured.

[Dan from Michigan]

My only comment is that if this thing gets to Bush's desk, and he signs it--he will have gotten his last vote from me!

Agree, and I'll add that to congress and well.

[Shooter 2.5]

What did you do during the last election so it won't reach his desk?

[Vinnie]

I believe that Karl (Marx) Rove will advise him to sign it in order to "triangulate the Democratic vote."

He'll need every one of them too. The Repubs will abandon him by the millions.

[Squantos]

BTTT.......

[Threepwood]

I don't think this item exists:

(I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

I guess public safety demands the banning of imaginary weapons too.

[El Gato]

I can't imagine that this bill will make it past the House.

The virtually identical H.R.2038 was introduced in earlly May in the House by Rep Carolyn McCarthy, with 97 co-sponsers, including the traitor in whose district I reside! (He inherited the seat from his father, for whom half the public buildings in town built in the last 50 years, seem to be named, so I'd say his hold on the seat is pretty solid, unless re-districting gets him. I can only hope. )

[Husker24]

A "street sweeper" was a shotgun with a revolving cylnder. Its the only one I can think of.

[Brian S]

I believe, though could be mistaken, that the "street-sweeper" is such a gun.

[Flint]

An M1 carbine? Surely they jest!

Exactly what the bloody hell is a Large Capacity Ammuntion Feeding Device? Is my .22 rifle with a tubular magazine that will hold 15 rounds such?

These bugs need to be stepped on and ground into the pavement.

[Dan from Michigan]

I noticed my jerkoff SINator Carl Lenin cosponsored the other AW ban in the senate. Feinswine's ban.

Don't blame me....I voted for Rocky.

[WestPacSailor]

Anyone who thinks this bill is a violation of their Constitutional rights has the OBLIGATION to contact his/her Senator AND Congressman and remind the individuals that they work for US, not the other way around.

For a group of people who swore to "...protect and defend the Constitution...from all enemies" they sure are doing their damndest to infringe my right to keep and bear arms.

Let these bastards know that a vote for this bill is a vote for them to be unemployed next November.

[TexasCowboy]

Thanks for the ping, Squantos........I think.
I'm concerned about this one.
I think it will make it to the President's desk, and I think he will sign it.......like he said he would.

[SSN558]

My only comment is that if this thing gets to Bush's desk, and he signs it--he will have gotten his last vote from me!

Ditto me too, but I do not think it is going to happen. Evidence.

The NRA is now soliciting funds specifically to fight this bill and they are about six months behind GOA getting started.

Politicians are well aware of the 1994 blood bath that decimated the democrap party and know that NRA membership is higher than ever.

If you read all the gun bills introduced this year you will notice that some progun bills have been introduced by conservative democraps. They fear the ballot box, big time.

The list of guns to be banned is expanded and millions of shooters and gun owners will find their favorite piece on the list.

The letters have been pouring into politicians since the white house spokes person said Dubya would sign a assault weapons bill.

The high capacity magazines that never really became unavailable have recently been marked down up to 30% by some sellers. Anyone who stocked up on these items is going to have to sell them below cost before long.

That's the writing on the wall, the way I read it. In any case a lady at the RNC called the other day asking for donations. I politiely explained to her that all my dontations were going to NRA and GOA until this assault weapons bill issue was resolved. She then mentioned that we could get stuck with another eight years of someone like Bill Clinton, and would I allow a single issue get in the way and let this occur. I told her, "oh yes I could, have a good day, click."

[deport]

Other sponsors? I'm sure Chuckie from NY is one. Who else?

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only one in the Senate so far..... Corzine

The question is does it have support in the Judiciary committee to have a hearing and be voted out favorably for Senate action. If Hatch doesn't bring it up then it will die a dead there.....

The companion bill in the House has the following co-sponsors......

H.R.2038
Title: To reauthorize the assault weapons ban, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [NY-4] (introduced 5/8/2003)      Cosponsors: 97
Related Bills: S.1431
Latest Major Action: 6/25/2003 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.

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COSPONSORS(97), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 6/16/2003 [HI-1]	Rep Ackerman, Gary L. - 5/8/2003 [NY-5]
Rep Andrews, Robert E. - 5/8/2003 [NJ-1]	Rep Becerra, Xavier - 7/24/2003 [CA-31]
Rep Berman, Howard L. - 7/24/2003 [CA-28]	Rep Bishop, Timothy H. - 5/8/2003 [NY-1]
Rep Blumenauer, Earl - 5/8/2003 [OR-3]	Rep Brady, Robert - 5/8/2003 [PA-1]
Rep Brown, Corrine - 5/8/2003 [FL-3]	Rep Capps, Lois - 5/19/2003 [CA-23]
Rep Capuano, Michael E. - 5/8/2003 [MA-8]	Rep Cardin, Benjamin L. - 6/3/2003 [MD-3]
Rep Carson, Julia - 5/8/2003 [IN-7]	Rep Case, Ed - 5/8/2003 [HI-2]
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 7/24/2003 [MO-1]	Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 5/8/2003 [MI-14]
Rep Crowley, Joseph - 7/17/2003 [NY-7]	Rep Cummings, Elijah E. - 5/8/2003 [MD-7]
Rep Davis, Danny K. - 5/8/2003 [IL-7]	Rep DeGette, Diana - 5/21/2003 [CO-1]
Rep Delahunt, William D. - 5/8/2003 [MA-10]	Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. - 5/8/2003 [CT-3]
Rep Deutsch, Peter - 5/19/2003 [FL-20]	Rep Emanuel, Rahm - 5/8/2003 [IL-5]
Rep Engel, Eliot L. - 5/8/2003 [NY-17]	Rep Eshoo, Anna G. - 6/10/2003 [CA-14]
Rep Farr, Sam - 5/8/2003 [CA-17]	Rep Fattah, Chaka - 5/8/2003 [PA-2]
Rep Filner, Bob - 7/8/2003 [CA-51]	Rep Frank, Barney - 5/8/2003 [MA-4]
Rep Gonzalez, Charles A. - 7/8/2003 [TX-20]	Rep Grijalva, Raul M. - 5/8/2003 [AZ-7]
Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. - 5/8/2003 [IL-4]	Rep Harman, Jane - 5/8/2003 [CA-36]
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 7/17/2003 [FL-23]	Rep Hoeffel, Joseph M. - 5/8/2003 [PA-13]
Rep Holt, Rush D. - 5/8/2003 [NJ-12]	Rep Honda, Michael M. - 5/8/2003 [CA-15]
Rep Hoyer, Steny H. - 7/25/2003 [MD-5]	Rep Israel, Steve - 7/15/2003 [NY-2]
Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. - 5/8/2003 [IL-2]	Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila - 5/8/2003 [TX-18]
Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice - 5/8/2003 [TX-30]	Rep Jones, Stephanie Tubbs - 7/24/2003 [OH-11]
Rep Kennedy, Patrick J. - 5/8/2003 [RI-1]	Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. - 5/19/2003 [OH-10]
Rep Langevin, James R. - 5/8/2003 [RI-2]	Rep Lantos, Tom - 5/21/2003 [CA-12]
Rep Larson, John B. - 6/3/2003 [CT-1]	Rep Lee, Barbara - 5/8/2003 [CA-9]
Rep Lewis, John - 5/8/2003 [GA-5]	Rep Lipinski, William O. - 5/8/2003 [IL-3]
Rep Lofgren, Zoe - 5/8/2003 [CA-16]	Rep Lowey, Nita M. - 5/8/2003 [NY-18]
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. - 5/8/2003 [NY-14]	Rep Markey, Edward J. - 5/8/2003 [MA-7]
Rep Matsui, Robert T. - 7/8/2003 [CA-5]	Rep McCollum, Betty - 6/16/2003 [MN-4]
Rep McDermott, Jim - 6/3/2003 [WA-7]	Rep McGovern, James P. - 5/8/2003 [MA-3]
Rep Meehan, Martin T. - 5/8/2003 [MA-5]	Rep Meeks, Gregory W. - 5/19/2003 [NY-6]
Rep Menendez, Robert - 5/8/2003 [NJ-13]	Rep Miller, George - 5/19/2003 [CA-7]
Rep Moran, James P. - 5/8/2003 [VA-8]	Rep Nadler, Jerrold - 5/8/2003 [NY-8]
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 5/8/2003 [DC]	Rep Olver, John W. - 5/21/2003 [MA-1]
Rep Owens, Major R. - 5/8/2003 [NY-11]	Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. - 5/8/2003 [NJ-8]
Rep Payne, Donald M. - 5/8/2003 [NJ-10]	Rep Rangel, Charles B. - 5/8/2003 [NY-15]
Rep Rothman, Steve R. - 5/8/2003 [NJ-9]	Rep Roybal-Allard, Lucille - 5/8/2003 [CA-34]
Rep Rush, Bobby L. - 5/8/2003 [IL-1]	Rep Sanchez, Linda T. - 5/8/2003 [CA-39]
Rep Sanchez, Loretta - 5/8/2003 [CA-47]	Rep Schakowsky, Janice D. - 5/8/2003 [IL-9]
Rep Schiff, Adam B. - 7/17/2003 [CA-29]	Rep Serrano, Jose E. - 6/10/2003 [NY-16]
Rep Shays, Christopher - 5/8/2003 [CT-4]	Rep Sherman, Brad - 5/21/2003 [CA-27]
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh - 6/23/2003 [NY-28]	Rep Smith, Christopher H. - 5/8/2003 [NJ-4]
Rep Solis, Hilda L. - 5/8/2003 [CA-32]	Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 5/8/2003 [CA-13]
Rep Tauscher, Ellen O. - 5/8/2003 [CA-10]	Rep Tierney, John F. - 5/8/2003 [MA-6]
Rep Towns, Edolphus - 5/8/2003 [NY-10]	Rep Van Hollen, Chris - 5/8/2003 [MD-8]
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 5/8/2003 [NY-12]	Rep Waters, Maxine - 5/8/2003 [CA-35]
Rep Watson, Diane E. - 5/8/2003 [CA-33]	Rep Waxman, Henry A. - 5/8/2003 [CA-30]
Rep Weiner, Anthony D. - 5/8/2003 [NY-9]	Rep Wexler, Robert - 5/8/2003 [FL-19]
Rep Woolsey, Lynn C. - 5/8/2003 [CA-6]

[Squantos]

I have been a thorn in my congress critters ass on this cosmetic source of revenue shit 'n'shineola show called the AW ban all along......

Gonna be an on going battle till we die I believe so I may as well settle in for the long fight with these seditious polidiots and presstitutes.

Stay Safe TC !

[El Gato]

I don't think this item exists: (I) A shotgun with a revolving cylinder. I guess public safety demands the banning of imaginary weapons too.

It does. One version was called the Street Sweeper, another the Stryer 12. However they have been reclassified as "destructive devices", being shotguns "not particular suitable for sporting purposes". Even those who owned them before that, were/are required to register them as with a machine gun, but without the $200 tax, until you want to sell it, then the new buyer must pay the tax, and jump through the other NFA hoops.

[Born Conservative]

Here's a pic of the streetsweeper: