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Germany-Based Divisions May Move Stateside
Army Times | August 4, 2003 | Amy Svitak and Vince Crawley

Posted on 7/28/2003, 5:02:03 PM by mark502inf

The Army quietly is making detailed plans to move its two Germany-based divisions back to the United States as soon as they finish their yearlong Iraq deployments, but defense leaders haven’t given their approval.

While not specifically commenting on the Army moves, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in an interview that they are part of a worldwide basing review that would be studied by senior leaders in the weeks ahead.

The U.S. 1st Armored Division, currently deployed in Iraq, is slated to return to Wiesbaden, Germany, between February and April 2004, Gen. Jack Keane, acting Army chief of staff, said at a July 23 news conference.

But Pentagon officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, say the division would stay only long enough to pack up and head to the United States.

Likewise, the 1st Infantry Division, now based in Wuerzburg, Germany, would return to U.S. soil after its one-year deployment to Iraq, which begins in March 2004.

The two divisions represent the bulk of the Army’s combat force in Europe. However, the Army plans to station one of its new light-armored Stryker brigades in Germany, possibly in the Grafenwoehr-Vilseck area, where training ranges are available.

In addition, Army officials are looking at Romania and Bulgaria as sites for austere base camps where U.S.-based troops would deploy on six-month rotations.

Room in the heartland?

While no official plan has been announced, Pentagon planners are considering where to make room for the two Germany-based divisions upon their U.S. arrival.

Much of the 1st Infantry Division is expected to return to its traditional stomping grounds at Fort Riley, Kan., where the "Big Red One" division was home-based until unit reshufflings in the 1990s. Riley is home to one brigade of 1st Infantry as well as one brigade of 1st Armored.

Much of the 1st Armored Division likely would be stationed at Fort Lewis, Wash., the Army’s premier training facility for service transformation efforts.

However, the 1st Armored Division might be sent to Fort Riley instead, where it would be designated as the 1st Infantry, a congressional source said.

One official at the Pentagon said the influx of troops from Germany — roughly 40,000 active-duty members plus families — is more than any one or two posts could accommodate.

"They’re looking everywhere" to find possible U.S. homes for elements of the two divisions, the official said.

Regardless, more troops are welcome at Fort Riley, according to Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. "We are aware that the Army is considering Fort Riley as the home of a division flag should the decision to return a division from Europe be made," Roberts said in a prepared statement July 24. "Fort Riley has maintained its deployment infrastructure. It has the training land and no environmental restrictions or encroachment problems."

Rumsfeld, asked about the fate of the two Army divisions in Germany, said their future is tied up in a worldwide basing review that will be the focus of senior leaders.

Until now, the bulk of the basing plans have been developed on the regional level by combatant commanders and their staffs, Rumsfeld said in a July 22 interview at Fort Leavenworth, Kan.

A senior-level review group will look at the regional plans and "be wrestling with" how to coordinate them on a global level "in the weeks ahead," he said.

But international basing decisions can’t be made only in Washington, he said.

"Of course, you’ve got the interaction with allies and friends and NATO and Korea and Japan and all of that," Rumsfeld said.

Staff writer Matthew Cox contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; europe; germany; iraq; military; militarybases; troopmovement; usmilitary; war

1 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:02:04 PM by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
Good, it is time for these people to come home.
2 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:03:38 PM by grapeape (Hope is not a method. - Gen. Hugh Shelton)
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To: Wneighbor
Didn't you say your SIL was with the 1st Armored?
3 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:07:49 PM by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: mark502inf
Best news I've heard since... last Tuesday!
4 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:13:06 PM by gridlock (Remember: PC Kills.)
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To: mark502inf
Good. Not one penny of U.S. Servicemen's money for those German ingrates.
5 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:19:36 PM by LibKill (MOAB, the greatest advance in Foreign Relations since the cat-o'-nine-tails!)
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To: LibKill
Why have U.S troops anywhere in Europe ?

I'm sure there must be a reason, but what?

6 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:23:20 PM by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: mark502inf
Great!  Move them to the U.S. Mexican border and leave standing orders to shoot to kill anyone violating our sovereignty.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”


7 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:28:01 PM by End Times Sentinel ("Europeans lost the will to live the moral life long ago." - Ben Shapiro)
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To: mark502inf
Dear Lord, please give Dubya and Rummy another term.
8 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:34:44 PM by MattinNJ (As soon as we could see out of our big black eye, man, we lit up your world like the 4th of July)
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To: mark502inf
Goodbye, Germany. We spent our own money to rebuild you from the ruins of a war that you started, fed your country when it was starving, guarded your safety and freedoms for years and years, and when we finally needed you, you turned on us like a treacherous weasel. You Germans define the words "vile ungrateful wretches."

Enjoy your alliance with the French. And the next time something goes wrong, call the UN, because we've never even heard of you.
9 posted on 7/28/2003, 5:51:41 PM by Steely Glint ("Political language...is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable..." - G. Orwell)
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To: Publius6961
Why have U.S troops anywhere in Europe ? I'm sure there must be a reason, but what?

1-An ocean closer to West Asia, the Middle East, and North Africa. 2-Visible sign of our commitment to NATO. 3-Opportunities for training and experience with foreign militaries and on terrain not available in the USA.

But it would be cheaper, closer to better training areas, and closer to potential employment locations to displace any remaining units south & east.

10 posted on 7/28/2003, 6:57:00 PM by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
The women would be nicer in the east too.
11 posted on 7/28/2003, 7:04:32 PM by elhombrelibre (Liberalism corrupts. Absolute Liberalism corrupts absolutely.)
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To: elhombrelibre
The women would be nicer in the east too.

Tell that to my dad. My parents met when my father was stationed in Germany the first time. (He had three tours there.) Although, I am not fond of the home country of 50% of my ancestors or the people there in general, there are some nice people there.

12 posted on 7/28/2003, 8:26:09 PM by conservative cat
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To: conservative cat
there are some nice people there.

Aye. My wife's the nicest person I have ever met- hands down ;-)

13 posted on 7/28/2003, 9:51:25 PM by Prodigal Son
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To: Publius6961
"Why have U.S troops anywhere in Europe ? I'm sure there must be a reason, but what?"

They been there since the end of WWII is my understanding, to keep the peace after nazi regime,(?) I could be wrong.

14 posted on 7/28/2003, 9:55:57 PM by the Deejay
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To: Publius6961
Why have U.S troops anywhere in Europe ?

Soviet Bloc.

I'm sure there must be a reason, but what?

Soviet Bloc.

The Soviet bloc is history and it appears that 6 brigades of American soldiers in Germany allowing the Eurotrash socialiats to suck off the American teat are as well.

Hip,hip, hooray!

15 posted on 7/28/2003, 10:00:55 PM by jwalsh07
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