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William Bennett considering lawsuits against casinos
The Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | Tuesday, July 29, 2003 | ROD SMITH

Posted on 07/29/2003 9:32:08 AM PDT by Willie Green

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Morals czar William Bennett is considering filing lawsuits against Las Vegas casino companies that may have leaked documents detailing his gambling habits.

Bennett, the architect and leading advocate of Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" anti-drug campaign, was outed in the May issue of The Washington Monthly magazine as a gambler who has wagered -- and lost -- millions over the past decade at Bellagio and Caesars Atlantic City.

During a 60-minute interview with Tim Russert on CNCB this weekend, the former education secretary complained his privacy rights had been "deliberately damaged" while also mocking Las Vegas' latest national marketing campaigns.

"By the way, there's a commercial on that people may have seen about Las Vegas, that 'What happens here stays here.' Well, not in my case. Some people there were trying to do me great harm," Bennett said.

The "What happens here" ad campaign is part of the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority's latest marketing campaign to boost tourism to the city.

He argued the magazine report stemmed from the release of "some documents" by the casinos themselves which was not legal and violated his privacy rights.

He alleges documents were selectively leaked to create a false impression that he had a gaming problem.

While Bennett did not dispute the legitimacy of the documents and said he had no problem with the reporters who have written stories on his gambling, he told Russert the release of the information was not legal and he is looking into the possibility of legal action against the casinos.

On Monday, Bennett declined to comment further on the possibility of legal action against the casino companies.

Spokesmen for Park Place Entertainment Corp. , owner of the Caesars Atlantic City, and MGM Mirage, which operates Bellagio, declined comment.

Industry insiders have said details in The Washington Monthly article suggest the data about Bennett's gambling habits might actually have come from documents produced by Central Credit, a subsidiary of First Data Corp. of Greenwood Village, Colo.

Central Credit, which has denied being a source of the documents, is the gaming industry equivalent of credit reporting agency TRW. It allows member casinos to run credit checks on debts, marker activity and repayment habits of casino customers.

Industry experts and civil liberties attorneys doubt Bennett has a cause of action.

Las Vegas professor and casino gambling expert Bill Thompson said Bennett's privacy rights "were violated. I think he has a beef, but I don't know if he has a legal argument."

Allen Lichtenstein, general counsel for the Nevada chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, said "It might be good policy, but in the absence of some policy or contract, it does not appear there is a cause of action," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: addiction; advertising; billbennett; casino; gambling; lasvegas; lawsuit; loser
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To: leadpenny
His 15 minutes is up? Did you stay up all night thinking about that line?

Given his history, he's had a lot more than 15 minutes. And his books don't tell us how to live our lives like a Democrat would (Hillary).

They are moral ideas that have merit. And he doesn't ever say "don't gamble". But who cares?

The idea that his principles are somehow wrong because he engages in a legal activity that millions of Americans do is ludicrous. And based on his income and wealth, $8 million over 12 years isn't so bad. I'll wager that the average American that goes to Vegas loses more as a percentage of their disposable income unless they, like me, just gamble away a set amount of money for entertainment purposes (and free drinks).

281 posted on 07/29/2003 5:50:41 PM PDT by Fledermaus (DimbulbRats have a mental disease - Arrested Brain Development.)
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To: Willie Green
Lets see,

Mr. "conscience of conservatives" sues because he is a victim.

He lost any credibility he ever had.
282 posted on 07/29/2003 5:52:46 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: gcruse
Bad examples selectively taken to make your lame argument isn't your forte either.

283 posted on 07/29/2003 5:52:48 PM PDT by Fledermaus (DimbulbRats have a mental disease - Arrested Brain Development.)
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To: Burkeman1
I thought it was funny at the time that Casinos released these records.

That's why I don't think they did. A credit bureau they use was mentioned as being the possible source of a leak.
Did the "Vegas: what happens here stays here" ads start up before or after this mess?
284 posted on 07/29/2003 5:53:35 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Lockbar
But he no longer can make any case that he is a spokesperson for people living more responsible lives, even if it was his own money to do with what he pleased. That much gambling is too stupid for words. Bill, shut up and go away.

Thanks Lockbar. I was worried we were running out of judgemental fascist who think they and they alone determine what is "too stupid for words".

I'm sure you'd throw me in jail because I've spent way too much than a normal person for Batman paraphanalia.

Please do me a favor and run for office Lockbar so I can always know someone as smart and all knowing as you will be protecting me from myself.

285 posted on 07/29/2003 5:55:48 PM PDT by Fledermaus (DimbulbRats have a mental disease - Arrested Brain Development.)
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To: Richard Kimball
Well, it may be a crapshoot, but I think he should go ahead and roll the dice and see what happens.

Jackpot.

286 posted on 07/29/2003 5:59:19 PM PDT by TheOtherOne
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To: Fledermaus
Bad examples selectively taken to make
your lame argument isn't your forte either.


'Bad examples' would be the subject.  Your
counterposing with good examples would be
the predicate, which  seems to be missing.

So for now, we'll leave the logic to Mr Bennett.

"Yes, but that doesn't make my arguments any less good or not
."
287 posted on 07/29/2003 6:00:00 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: leadpenny; All
Boy I'm sure glad we are all perfect and never sin or do stupid things. That way we can all put Bill down for his gambling. I'm a falling down drunk who beats up on women and I lie like hell but boy I don't gamble. (not really, just making the point that there are a lot worse things than what Bill did.) I can think of another Bill that doesn't gamble but is much less of a human being.
288 posted on 07/29/2003 6:07:31 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: ml/nj
Cut your losses now! LOL!

I live in Vegas and haven't been to a casino since......? (I really can't rememeber!)

289 posted on 07/29/2003 6:13:45 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ml/nj
Cut your losses now! LOL!

I live in Vegas and haven't been to a casino since......? (I really can't rememeber!)

290 posted on 07/29/2003 6:13:48 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: fish hawk
Why all the venom against Mr. Bennett he is one of the good guys, he is on our side. Why do you think liberals hate him?

I think it is sad the way Conservatives tend "Eat their own" If a liberal comes under attack, other liberals will defend them and attack their accusers.

Patty Murray speaks favorably of the man who killed 3000+ Americans, nada happens. Trent Lott says something in a half serious manner at an old man's birthday and he is thrown overboard.

Gambling is about as immoral as buying a new car every year. I may think it is a foolish waste of money but after all its there money. The only time gambling is a vice and worthy of criticism is when you gamble away money you can not afford.



291 posted on 07/29/2003 6:41:47 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen
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To: Fledermaus
"Thanks Lockbar. I was worried we were running out of judgemental fascist who think they and they alone determine what is "too stupid for words".

I'm sorry to have disapointed you. Just for that, I won't share any photos of my gigantic GI Joe/Action Figure collection!
292 posted on 07/29/2003 6:42:06 PM PDT by Lockbar
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To: lelio
Yes- I seem to remember something about Credit bureau people leaking the info now as well. But I also remember an unamed quote from one Casino guy who called Bennett "a loser".
293 posted on 07/29/2003 6:43:43 PM PDT by Burkeman1 (If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.)
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To: Bluntpoint
How would you like it if your favorite Dept. Store made public how much you spent? It's the same thing. I can't believe you can't see that.
294 posted on 07/29/2003 7:50:59 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Walkingfeather
lets see....2 or 3 casinos gave info? I made be wrong here. I am sure these casinos make more in a day than that. If you were a heavy gambler and you knew Casino X gave out your info... what do you think they would pay to keep that out of the news.... in a Las Vegas court room? If I had that kind of money I think I would take your action.
295 posted on 07/29/2003 8:05:45 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (C)
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To: MEGoody
The impression given that he had a gambling addiction is the issue. And that has not proven to be true.

Ayone who plays the slots for the kind of money that Bennett did is an addict and like any addict he played for the rushes. His denial only makes it worse. High dollar slots are for suckers and addicts.

296 posted on 07/29/2003 8:48:51 PM PDT by FreeLibertarian (You live and learn. Or you don't live long.)
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To: Pahuanui
Do you smoke marijuana, by any chance?

No, I’m not a Liberaltarian.

You seem to have a memory problem. 'Immediately'? He quit not immediately, but rather after a few months,

Oh please, after his “legal” use of the drug was criticized by hypocrites like you, he quit ‘immediately’. Good thing the aspirin activists didn’t go after him too, what a tempest in a teapot you are.

and only after antitobacco advocates paid for full-page newspaper ads "asking President Bush's drug czar, William Bennett, to take a`drug-free challenge' and quit his two-pack-a-day cigarette smoking habit".

Glad you endorse liberal wacko causes.

Wrong. Folded under political pressure alert. Utter cosmeticism alert.

Doesn’t quite meet the definition of someone who changes their wrong behavior now does it?

I'm sorry, but for a self-professed man of virtue, for someone who makes money bemoaning the decay of America's moral fiber to patently stupid, fawning audiences, to blow millions at games of chance when it could have been spent elsewhere (say, scholarships) is reprehensible.

Are you sure you are a Liberaltarian? I believe that’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard one say. He should give ALL his money to charity? He should use his money by your personal standards? Should the 20K per year clerks who by lottery tickets give that money to charity too? Should there be maximum salary caps and the rest given to scholarships? How about a spending cap on vacations and other intangibles that show nothing for their costs? Outlaw private planes and yachts!

You are no better than liberals telling conservatives how to spend their money. How do you know how much he gives to charity? What in your liberal world is the correct amount?

I'm not surprised you can't grasp that concept.

I’m surprised the Liberaltarians don’t kick you out of their social experiment club. Do your parents know you are using their computer?

297 posted on 07/29/2003 9:32:40 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Pahuanui
And Mr. Bennet has the additional burden of rank hypocrisy.

But you can't prove that. Do you think repeating it over and over makes it true?

298 posted on 07/29/2003 9:35:14 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Lockbar
Just for that, I won't share any photos of my gigantic GI Joe/Action Figure collection!

Noooooo, anything but that! I cave. I give in. Sorry my master!

Unfortunately, we only had the basic Joe with a hat, gun and one uniform...blonde or brown hair and the scar.

Years later my little brother got 90% of Christmas with all kind of cool GI Joe accessories. I always knew mom hated me! Fortunately, being 16 and having pre-marital sex made up for it!

299 posted on 07/29/2003 9:55:29 PM PDT by Fledermaus (DimbulbRats have a mental disease - Arrested Brain Development.)
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To: dfwgator
Hey Bill, how bout taking a little personal responsibility, eh? What a hypocrite.

He has taken responsibility for HIS actions. Now he wants them to take responsibility for THEIR actions.

300 posted on 07/29/2003 9:58:31 PM PDT by cinFLA
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