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Cartoonist Draws Attention (Ramirez explains cartoon with gun being pointed at Bush)
WNYC ^
| July 25, 2003
| Gladstone & Ramirez interview
Posted on 07/29/2003 9:06:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Moonmad27
"he's the only sane (non-rabid-liberal) person in the LA Times!!!!"
As I mentioned in a post last week, I knew Michael personaly when he was in Memphis. While thats been 5 years ago, We use to joke about demorats and liberals.
Michael was, and I am sure still is, as much on the right as
any true Freeper on here.
I DO remember the famous photo that he was using.
It is really a reflection of what the rabid left would like to see happen.
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posted on
07/30/2003 6:02:36 AM PDT
by
AlexW
To: RaceBannon
You won't hear it when it's played now because they got caught.
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posted on
07/30/2003 6:14:55 AM PDT
by
Lee'sGhost
(Crom!)
To: Happy2BMe
Thanks !
bttt for later read . . .
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posted on
07/30/2003 8:14:44 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Coming Soon !: Freeper site on Comcast. Found the URL. Gotta fix it now.)
To: RaceBannon
Orginal and creative. Well, I mean at least the cartoon is. Maybe you didn't realize that the cartoon was suppose to provoke thought? Not really sure why you preceived it as a threat. I have nothing against the secret service for checking it out.. that is their job after all. But just because YOU don't get it.. doesn't mean that it wasn't a creative cartoon.
To: FairOpinion
I didn't know about the Vietnam photo and I guess neither did a lot of other people.
Very interesting story about the man with the gun.
From article in link below:
The photo deserved the Pulitzer, but the man pictured forever pulling the trigger didnt deserve his fate.
The executioner is General Nguyen Ngoc Loan, who at the time was head of South Vietnam's national police. The victims name was Nguyen Van Lem. The photographer was Eddie Adams. One would think that Adams would be proud of his work, but he isnt. He wishes he never took the picture.
After the Associated Press photo was seen around the world, the AP assigned Adams to hang out with General Loan. Adams discovered that Loan was a beloved hero in South Vietnam. He was fighting our war, not their war, our war, and
all the blame is on this guy, Adams told National Public Radio (in a shockingly sympathetic interview), after Loan died in 1998. Adams learned that Loan fought for the construction of hospitals in South Vietnam and, unlike the popular myths, demonstrated that at least some South Vietnamese soldiers really did want to fight for their country and way of life.
Minutes before that photo had been taken, several of Loans men had been gunned down. Lem, a suspected Viet Cong officer, had knifed to death one of Loans men, along with the mans wife and children."
http://www.yrock.com/opinions/showopinionsarticle.asp?articleid=443&featureid=36
To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
Thanks for posting the original Vietnam picture.
From what Ramirez said, I guess this Vietnam picture was used by a lot for propaganda about how terrible the S. Vietnamese were, whom the US was helping for gunning down the "helpless" Viet Kong, right?
Knowing all that, I can see what Ramirez was trying to do, it must have been one of those "it seemed like a good idea at the time" things, which he didn't think through that everything considered it was a terrible idea and cartoon -- totally inappropriate.
To: Gabrielle Reilly
Ping
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posted on
07/30/2003 11:45:16 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
To: Pan_Yans Wife
Thanks for the ping.
To: Dr._Joseph_Warren
This story could have been included in Ann's book Treason.
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07/30/2003 12:09:56 PM PDT
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GraniteStateConservative
(Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
To: Moonmad27
I agree with you. If any thing he leans to the right. He is very balanced and fair. I too do not understand how the LA Times tolerates him.
To: Happy2BMe
"As it appears in it's current form, the cartoon draws the immediate shagrin and delight of all Democrats (and Islamic terrorists)." If we are realistic we will admit that the delight is likely because neither group can read very well.
Chagrin was the reaction of some who failed to comprehend the true essence of the cartoon.
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07/30/2003 2:42:36 PM PDT
by
Spirited
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