Posted on 07/31/2003 5:17:00 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
A Muslim reservist airman is bringing a test case against the Ministry of Defence, after he was disciplined for refusing to take part in the Iraq war.
He is appealing on the grounds that his faith forbids him from fighting other muslims.
Moshin Khan from RAF Suffolk was called up earlier this year but failed to turn up. He was charged with going absent without leave.
His lawyers will argue that the European convention on human rights gives everyone the right to freedom of religious belief - including military personnel.
He is not the only person to have refused to serve in Iraq. Two other British servicemen, a private and an air technician from 16 Air Assault Brigade, were sent home from the Gulf after refusing to fight.
But they refused to fight for moral reasons and not religious ones.
In previous conflicts, conscientious objectors in the armed services have been jailed for refusing to fight.
Khan was arrested by Suffolk police after going absent without leave in February.
He had reported for training but then decided he could not fight and went into hiding. Police handed him over to RAF investigators.
As Mr. Akyol stated rightly, this was not exceptional at that time. The problem now is that such acts have been attributed to the Prophet Muhammad who is the model to be emulated by all Muslims. Hence, while even worse wars might have been perpetrated in the world by rulers long since forgotten, the acts and sayings of Muhammad concerning non-Muslims are still binding for over a billion Muslims today. To decry Dr. Bostom’s analyses, based on 13 centuries of Islamic teaching and writing, and accepted today in all Muslim countries, is almost surrealistic.
In fact, there is no way for us, in the 21st century, to know what really happened in a small Arabian oasis in the seventh century given the lack of contemporary evidence. But Mr. Akyol again contradicts himself by implying that the Qurayza’s punishment was justified, because they acted treacherously while of course there are no objective proofs for such accusations, which rest merely on the demonization of the victims. Moreover the problem does not concern only the Qurayza Jews but the Jews and Christians throughout the Hedjaz, who were, soon afterward dispossessed, and within a decade of Muhammad’s death, expelled, according to his professed (i.e., again, in the sira) deathbed wishes. http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2004/10/003675print.html
The Koran and Hadith are full of "Muhammad's examples". Muslims are called upon to emulate the "exemplary life" of this murderous prophet. The more civilized Muslims play a game of pretend where the beneficent examples are acknowledged and the existence of the murderous examples is denied.
The Mecca period of his life was full of kindly preachings. The later, Medina period, is where Muhammad comes into his own as a blood lusting warlord. Spreading Islam by the sword while his band pillages and rapes it way across Arabia
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I read as much as I could but I keep coming back to the essence of Islam. Islam is the monkey see, monkey do religion. It's built around Muhammad's "examples". When you understand this you understand Islam and Islam's terrorism.
The faithful Muslim is commanded to copy Muhammad's life. This is the most important fact in Islam. They view Muhammad as the most perfect man who ever lived, whose "exemplary" life must be emulated. The nice and moderate Muslims ignore, deny, minimize the latter part of Muhammad's life in Medina where he preached Jihad and was a murderous warlord bent on Islam's expansion. Conversion by the sword. The Jihadist Muslims are intent on copying this murderous part of Muhammad's life which has inspired many Koran verses. The later Medina verses (violent) are theologically superior to any Meccan verses (peaceful) when there is a contradiction.
The nice and moderate Muslims just want to think about the Meccan verses in the Koran which preach high ideals. From when Muhammad lived in Mecca and only got 100 followers in 13 years of preaching. Muhammad turned to Medina, turned to Jihad, got more followers, engaged in bloody conquest with 20% of all booty going to him. And the rest is history and misery.
Don't try to snow me with your rhetoric.
Try this on for size. Your Koran.http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes5.html#women
You take that crap you try to foster as a religion and put it somewhere else.
American women aren't that stupid.
He doesn't consider the United Kingdom "his country" -- he is a British subject, yes, but in reality he just lives there and reaps the benefit.
"Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur'an".
You can keep your cult named islam.
It's easy to sing the praises of Islam while living in a non-Islamic land. You can practice your personal brand of religion without fear of the authorities or even your own family for deviating from what is considered "correct" belief.
Frankly, if you take your religion seriously, I don't see why you would want to live with a bunch of contemptible pork-eating, beer-swilling infidels, unless you see yourself as a soldier of Islam, working for the Islamization of this nation and ultimately the world. I find it amusing that a pious Muslim is studing law in the U.S. -- whose law? Also, do you plan to use American law to undermine this country, very much like the leftists of the ACLU and their ilk have been doing for years?
GITMO!
AMEN!
muslims don't go to hell if they kill a Christian or a Jew, right? After all, according to all one-billion of you, we are just dogs, or pigs.
Sheesh...
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No, she was six -- the marriage was consummated when she was nine.
D'OH!
Thanks, I added it to my favorites list. islam is not a religion, it is a blood thirsty cult.
You should be ashamed of your disgusting ignorant bigotry. ikhlas247 politely explained the reasoning behind what was done at the pool, and then you go off on a string of mocking insults and cheap shots at her, failing to distinguish between a moderate Muslim and an extremist. There is a huge difference between the two, and your tagline is a load of baloney. This is the United States, where freedom of religion is guaranteed in the constitution.
Are you saying you want to drive all muslims into the sea, or just force them to drink from separate water fountains?
BTW, I know many conservative Christians who wouldn't let their kids go in mixed groups to the beach or pool, who don't wear skimpy swimsuits. If they rented a pool after hours for an all-female or all-male teen swim, would you snottily denigrate them, too?
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