I recieved this information from someone wishing to remain unknown. I'm sure most of our informed in Free Republic is quite aware of the above information.
But for those who aren't, I find it a very interesting read.
1 posted on
07/31/2003 6:58:05 AM PDT by
SheLion
To: SheLion
"If you repeat a lie often enough......"
Thanks for this, I'm going to send it around.
2 posted on
07/31/2003 7:01:31 AM PDT by
Aria
To: SheLion
Shout it from the rooftops!I remember when Barry Goldwater tried to stop it from happening and the democrats smeared him - he was a man of honor.
3 posted on
07/31/2003 7:01:31 AM PDT by
NetValue
(They are not Americans, they're democrats.)
To: SheLion
I think it was Reagan plus democrat congress who put the tax on.
4 posted on
07/31/2003 7:02:31 AM PDT by
staytrue
To: SheLion
Social security benefits are on average, used up within 19 months from the first check. After that, a Social Security check is a welfare payment. Its still a pretty good deal for the elders so I have a tough time sweating the minutiae.
Abolish the entire system, issue bonds for what is owed to each American.
5 posted on
07/31/2003 7:02:43 AM PDT by
JohnGalt
(They're All Lying)
To: SheLion
BTW, what about the drug addicts and other "disabled". Don't they get some of our money too? Why people who don't pay in get anything is criminal. The nerve of the democrats to confiscate the money from hard working Americans (who need the S/S the most) and hand it out for political favors.
7 posted on
07/31/2003 7:07:57 AM PDT by
Aria
To: SheLion
btt
8 posted on
07/31/2003 7:10:10 AM PDT by
BellStar
To: SheLion
Q: Which party took Social Security from an independent fund and put it in the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratic-controlled House and Senate.
This was the brainstorm of the Johnson admin to fund the Space program without raising taxes, sadly a large amount of Americans supported this plan as beating the Russians to the moon was a matter of life and death.
It was supposed to be a "temporary" conversion of the fund.
As always, the legislative definition of "temporary" is not the same as the literal definition.
To: SheLion
This is interesting. It does need some research to flesh it out with specific bills and dates to have any real impact though.
13 posted on
07/31/2003 7:15:36 AM PDT by
Bob
To: SheLion
The formula for calculating the taxable share of social security payments is so complex that I suspect many retirees don't realize just how it works. Essentially, for a couple with a bit over $40,000 combined income, including SS, every additional dollar of income looks like $1.85 to the IRS, meaning that they are really in a 28% bracket rather than the 15% bracket the tax table leads them to think. Past age 70.5, part of the minimum required withdrawal from an IRA account is likely to be taxed at a 28% rate, about the same as the tax "avoided" by putting the money in originally, except that the couple's income base is now much smaller.
This came about through the Clinton-Gore 1993 tax bill which was supposed to increase taxes for only the wealthiest 2% of the population as I recall, and was passed with Gore's deciding vote.
Thanks, Al!
To: SheLion
A couple of more facts:
Democrats raised the retirement age from 65 to 67 years.
Clinton raised taxes on Social Security imcome (85%) of benefit is taxable.
The COMBINED Social Security & Medicare tax used to be 7.65%. The RATS split out the Medicare portion (2.9%) and kept the the Social Security rate at 7.65%, which effectively increased our FICA by 2.9%.
When FDR started Social Security, he never intended to pay any benefits since the retirement age was 65 and the average male only lived to be 59.
To: SheLion
Q: Which party put a tax on Social Security? A: The Democratic party.
Taxing 50% of Social Security benefits was instituted during the Reagan administration. Reagan signed off on it.
Q: Which party decided to give money to immigrants?
A: That's right, immigrants moved into this country and at 65 got SSI Social Security. The Democratic Party gave that to them although they never paid a dime into it.
SSI does not come out of Social Security funds. SSI payments come from general revenue. The Social Security Administration administers it but doesn't pay for it.
This is about the millionth time that I've seen this list. It's tired.
17 posted on
07/31/2003 7:22:33 AM PDT by
jackbill
To: SheLion
Archiving for later use!
18 posted on
07/31/2003 7:24:06 AM PDT by
ItsOurTimeNow
("The board is set. The pieces are moving. We come to it at last...the Great Battle of our time.")
To: SheLion
Subject: Who taxed Social Security?
Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month - and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the federal government to "put away," you may be interested in the following:
Q: Which party took Social Security from an independent fund and put it in the general fund so that Congress could spend it?
A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratic-controlled House and Senate.
Q: Which party put a tax on Social Security?
A: The Democratic party.
Q: Which party increased the tax on Social Security?
A: The Democratic Party with Al Gore casting the deciding vote.
Q: Which party decided to give money to immigrants?
A: That's right, immigrants moved into this country and at 65 got SSI Social Security. The Democratic Party gave that to them although they never paid a dime into it.
Then, after doing all this, the Democrats turn around and tell you the Republicans want to take your Social Security. And the worst part about it is, people believe it!
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Ain't nothin' democratic about the Democrat party -- the "Party of Treason".
25 posted on
07/31/2003 8:47:22 AM PDT by
dark_lord
(The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
To: SheLion
OJO - INTSUM
To: Madame Dufarge; metesky; ozone1; pkmaine; Atomic Vomit; ROCKLOBSTER; mlmr; bogeybob; BM.Maine; ...
Ping!
30 posted on
07/31/2003 5:24:05 PM PDT by
SheLion
To: SheLion
In the thirties, when SS was passed by the FDR (spit) controlled congress, the average life span for an American male was
58.1 years and most women didn't work.
The freakin' DemonRats thought they'd never have to pay.
How'd it work out?
33 posted on
07/31/2003 5:54:22 PM PDT by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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