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Bulge in lake worries YNP scientists
Cody Enterprise via Drudge ^ | 07/31/03 | By CAROLE CLOUDWALKER

Posted on 07/31/2003 6:19:24 PM PDT by Mike Darancette

Bulge in lake worries YNP scientists

By CAROLE CLOUDWALKER

Beneath the serene surface of Yellowstone Lake, where death from hypothermia comes within 30 minutes, seethes a boiling underwater world.

And like a pot too long on the stove, it could boil over, says U.S. Geological Survey geologist Lisa Morgan, Ph.D., of Colorado.

She and others from the USGS have been studying the hottest hot spot in the 7,731-foot elevation lake, a spot which Morgan has termed an "inflated plain." It lies south-southwest of Storm Point near Mary Bay, in the northern end of the lake.

Morgan, representing both the USGS and Yellowstone Volcanic Observatory, is in the process of mapping the lake floor with seismic reflection images. She uses a sonar system that emits sound waves. Morgan has taken 240 million soundings in the last four years.

She has found that temperatures along the inflated plain have been recorded at about 85 degrees 60 feet down, where the plain bulges up about 100 feet above the lake floor. (Park spokesman Cheryl Matthews says the lake rarely reaches more than 66 degrees at the surface by late summer, and is much colder deeper down.) The inflated plain stretches 2,100 feet - about the length of seven football fields - across.

"We think this is very young," something that occurred in the last few years, Morgan said.

"We're thinking this structure could be a precursor to an hydrothermal explosive event," Morgan said last week. "But we don't think this is a volcano."

If the bulge should explode, "we think it would create a large crater." But such an explosion, smaller versions of which created Indian Pond, Duck Lake and Mary Bay itself, would probably heat up the water temporarily, create high waves, spew poison gasses and other materials into the lake for a time, and leave a rimmed underwater crater.

Or it could do nothing.

Explosive events are, of course, not new in Yellowstone. Regional volcanoes once sent forth material across much of what is now the U.S.

"And Mary Bay is the world's largest hydrothermal explosion crater," Morgan said. Also lurking under water west of Indian Pond is Elliott's Crater, some 2,400 feet in diameter.

Powerful geologic processes contributed to the unusual shape of Yellowstone Lake, according to articles in the most recent edition of "Yellowstone Science," which describes Morgan's study. One of Morgan's objectives is to understand these processes.

Morgan is returning to Yellowstone in early August to further study the inflated plain, which she said "showed pretty radical changes" last summer. She and her USGS team will utilize a raft-like boat that resembles a high-tech Kon Tiki.

It carries, among other things, a small, red robotic submarine. The "ROV" will dive down to the underwater structure, land on it, scrape samples of rock and sand from its surface, and put in place devices that will measure any further changes to the structure.

By fall, Morgan and her team hope to prepare a "danger assessment" indicating how likely the plain is to explode, and if it does, what the scenario might be.

At this point in her work, Morgan has outlined two possibilities for the plain:

It could do nothing, and "freeze in time," becoming dormant.

It could explode, making a "large crater a couple of thousand feet in diameter."

If the dome blows, 10-foot waves could wash the lake shore, rocks and pieces of lake floor could be tossed into the air, and "chemicals containing toxic materials" could be discharged into the lake.

"There would be lots of water," Morgan said. Not the blue serenity of the present lake surface, but roiling, spewed-out hot water.

"But we don't think this is a volcano," Morgan said last week. Still, that possibility is being considered. She said what is causing the bulge is likely either carbon dioxide gas or steam. "We're trying to put monitoring equipment on the structure to see changes over time."

"We have no evidence there's any volcanic component" to the bulging dome, she added.


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No evidence that the Morlocks aren't roasting fish under there.

They don't want to worry tourists but....

1 posted on 07/31/2003 6:19:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: blam
PING>>>
2 posted on 07/31/2003 6:20:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (RATS: We're sorry Saddam.)
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To: Mike Darancette
SOUNDS LIKE MOUNT SAINT YELLOWSTONE
3 posted on 07/31/2003 6:26:07 PM PDT by al baby
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To: Mike Darancette
This SUPER-volcano is 40,000 years over due. The last time it blew, it left ash 6 feet deep in Nebraska.

75,000 years ago when the SUPER volcano Toba blew, only 2,000-5,000 humans worldwide survived.

4 posted on 07/31/2003 6:28:50 PM PDT by blam
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To: Mike Darancette
Bulge in lake worries YNP scientists

Al Gore says the lake ain't got nothing on his Rolling Stone cover.

5 posted on 07/31/2003 6:31:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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"We have no evidence there's any volcanic component" to the bulging dome, she added.

Um... does that include checking for caldera components?

6 posted on 07/31/2003 6:32:05 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: blam
Interesting link but it seems that they exaggerated the size components of some of the volcano eruptions relative to each other.

Still, if this puppy goes I'll be glad I'm down in Texas with a nearby lake for a heat sink.

7 posted on 07/31/2003 6:41:43 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: al baby
Mt. Saint Bulge!
8 posted on 07/31/2003 6:44:05 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: Mike Darancette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/956088/posts

Already posted.
9 posted on 07/31/2003 6:45:34 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Larry Lucido
yeah, but one was a natural occuring bulge,...the other was a piece of kielbasa place to look natural, but was in fact fake.

lol, that was Goron's attempt to get the sucker mom vote.
10 posted on 07/31/2003 6:48:19 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: blam
This SUPER-volcano is 40,000 years over due. The last time it blew, it left ash 6 feet deep in Nebraska.

I've read about that. Quite the detective story. It will happen again.

I just hope it's not for another 5000 years or so. Give us time to get off planet...if we haven't already extinctified ourselves.

11 posted on 07/31/2003 6:48:32 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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Last year on either the Discovery Channel or PBS wasn't there a special about how one end of a lake at Yellowstone N.P. was really bulging / tilting up? They think a molten dome is building up under the park, and if it blows it could wipe out all the life hundreds of miles around? If it happens when I'm there, I hope I get my admission refunded!
12 posted on 07/31/2003 6:53:03 PM PDT by Lockbar
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To: blam
This SUPER-volcano is 40,000 years over due.

Yeah, this hot spot has had an interesting past (check out the Snake River Plain volcanics that stretch out behind it like a comet's tail).

It occurs to me this could raise hell with the fishing though.

13 posted on 07/31/2003 7:09:09 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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I saw a show about the Yellowstone super-eruptions on the Discovery channel a couple years back. Perhaps the small bulge under the lake could just be bad news for the lake and anything nearby. But, if the theory put forth in the special is correct, should the bulge break open - even just the relatively small bulge under the lake - the tremendous pressures on the vast underlying magma pool would be released pretty much instantly. This would cause the gases in solution in the magma to expand explosively throughout the entire magma pool (think of like a very hot, very large can of Coke that has been shaken up thoroughly then opened).

The likely result is that all of the surface above the entire magma pool would be blasted into oblivion. The outcome could be catastrophic for a very large part of the country - and that very large part of the country is where much of our food comes from. Not a good scenario. Perhaps Joseph should go tell Pharoh so the US could set aside a strategic reserve of grains and such. :-)

To get a feel for the size of the magma pool, note the size of the Yellowstone Caldera.

14 posted on 07/31/2003 7:58:38 PM PDT by Conservative84 (Duck!)
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"The outcome could be catastrophic for a very large part of the country - and that very large part of the country is where much of our food comes from. Not a good scenario."

It's even worse than that. The rest of the peole will starve to death because we won't see the sun for maybe four years. Think nuclear/cosmic winter type effects.

I already figured out where a safe place will be with plenty of food when this happens.

15 posted on 07/31/2003 8:06:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: Mike Darancette
If that thing blows like it has before, make sure you have a few YEARS worth of food and live near a nuclear power plant, since that's going to be the only source of heat for awhile. ( And lots of guns and ammo to protect yourself from those who have not prepared )
16 posted on 07/31/2003 8:34:40 PM PDT by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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The estimates I've seen were larger than 2,000 to 5,000 -- but not incredibly large. That lower number might be the survivors ouside of Africa? (Bear in mind that there is more genetic diversity within Africa than between Northern Africa and the rest of the world.)
17 posted on 07/31/2003 8:47:28 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Mike Darancette
Considering I live 2 miles from the entrance from the park, my main fear is still and will always be fire. It has been incredibly hot this summer and we have already had 1 fire near us. The park has also closed a number of streams to fishing due to high water temperatures.
18 posted on 07/31/2003 9:01:36 PM PDT by Troublemaker
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I already figured out where a safe place will be with plenty of food when this happens.

Me too. I hope that they will let me stay at Walmart until it's over.

19 posted on 07/31/2003 9:07:43 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Question_Assumptions
"The estimates I've seen were larger than 2,000 to 5,000 -- but not incredibly large. "

The 2,000 number is the one I see most often cited and it comes from the DNA 'bottleneck' folks.
I've recently read that an archaeologist has claimed to have found a human site just above the Toba ash layer somewhere in the Indonesia area. So...someone in the region survived, at least for a while.

20 posted on 08/01/2003 7:22:40 AM PDT by blam
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