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Today's Free Trade is not about the Free Market
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 08/01/2003 | Jeff Head

Posted on 08/01/2003 2:05:33 PM PDT by Jeff Head

TODAY'S FREE TRADE IS NOT ABOUT THE FREE MARKET

We are in a very real battle in this nation and it is a battle for our heart and soul. It is spread out on many, many fronts...education, foreign policy, work ethic (individually and societally), immigration, the economy, moral values...and the list goes on.

Let's focus on the economy and one significant part of it...a major, growing part of it. Free Trade and foreign outsourcing.

I was going to entitle this article..."I used to make something"...or..."We used to make something in this country". But, I thought better of it and realized that such a statment was really focusing on the tail end of the issue as opposed to the root.

So, instead, I am simply calling it, "Today's Free Trade is not about the Free Market."

And it is so, today's Free Trade is NOT about the free market. Instead, in a very similar manner to other key issues in this battle for the heart and soul of America, what is happening is that a very craftily wordsmithed message of "Free Trade" has been put forth that people have bought into, thinking "How could anyone be against free trade? Why, isn't that all-American?".

Like with abortion, "How could anyone be against a woman's right to choose? Isn't that all American?".

In both cases, the craftily worded title has nothing remotely to do with what is actually going on.

The free market is the system our founders based our commerce on, where the intrinsic, underlying moral values of the people involved in the free market governed the equitable, free exchange of goods and services for other goods and services or currency. Sort of like John Adams said regarding the Constitution...

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798
It is that underlying moral foundation coupled woth our liberty that made the Free Market in America the envy of the world, just like those same issues made our governmental form the envy of the world.

Well, as far as I am conerned, Adam's words could be tailored to this topic like so, ie... The Free Market was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the economy of any other.

This is a basic truth. Like our government, our free market was not supposed to be very regulated or burdened with miriad rules. The people and the companies were to use their own moral foundation to govern themselves. But, when the moral foundation is removed, you do not have what was intended for the Constitution, and you do not have a true free market.

When we use our foreign policy and economic policy to set up shop and trade with countries, societies, organizations or to implement policies that exploit their people's mercilessly, who keep them down without a hope for true liberty or freedom, who trample the moral values our own system was based upon...and when we do it knowingly, without compuction for those very underlying values, then we do not create a free market...no, that free trade has nothing whatsoever to do with, and is in no way similar to the FREE MARKET, rather, it serves to corrupt it.

Such notions, such actions are in fact wordsmithing for popularizing and putting forth a policy to drain the United States manufacturing, technological, agricultural, energy and other critical industries in order to weaken us...plain and simple...and it is working.

Based on my own travels on behalf of US firms and then later consulting for them...that is what is really happening here in my own opinion, and until we refocus as a people on that underlying moral foundation and the absolute need for it...we will continue to lose ground.

By the way, those same principles that are working at the societal level, have equal application at the personal level too...in fact, in the end it is the sum of their working at the personal level that creates the issue at the societal level.

Jeff Head
Engineering Consultant and,
Author of The Dragon's Fury Series
How current conditions could lead to World War

August 1, 2003
Emmett, Idaho


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foreignmfg; freetrade; geopoliticalrisk; landgrab; outsourcing; peterprinciple; soveriegnty
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To: tiamat
The sort of "make a buck at any cost, screw your buddy" sort of thing.

I think you need to check your understanding of the word "capitalism".

121 posted on 08/01/2003 3:42:08 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Cacophonous
Cacophonous wrote:

Hehe...remind me to never piss you off...

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LOL!

I've read your stuff.

While we might disagree, YOU are very unlikely to piss me off.

Tia

122 posted on 08/01/2003 3:42:41 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: Jeff Head
Thanks for the heads up! };^D)
123 posted on 08/01/2003 3:43:10 PM PDT by RJayneJ (To see pictures of Jayne's quilt: http://bulldogbulletin.lhhosting.com/page50.htm)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Actually, I didn't read Willie's quotes; had no idea he threw the same one at you. Sorry about that.

As far as Marx is concerned, I wouldn't categorize his quotes as being tongue-in-cheek. He was all about the destruction of the west. He would do anything to hasten it.

124 posted on 08/01/2003 3:45:10 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Texas_Dawg
Do you think by raising tariffs and taxes that obligates an American firm to do business here?

Change "obligates" to "encourages" and the statement is partially correct. If tariffs and duties did not serve some purpose, every other country in the world wouldn't be using them, but they are.

American wages are taxed and taxed and taxed. Some of the disparity in labor costs can be removed by both eliminating the taxes on American labor and charging the foreign entity tariffs for the opportunity of access to the American consumer market.

The American market is currently wide open compared to those of our foreign competitors.

125 posted on 08/01/2003 3:45:45 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Texas_Dawg
SIGH

Read what I wrote to Snopercod.

I don't have time for this any more tonight. I have a 4-H Fair to go help tear-dwon and animals to move.

Tia

126 posted on 08/01/2003 3:45:59 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: Cacophonous
As far as Marx is concerned, I wouldn't categorize his quotes as being tongue-in-cheek. He was all about the destruction of the west. He would do anything to hasten it.

He thought free trade would do it. He was wrong, just as he was wrong in the rest of his economics.

127 posted on 08/01/2003 3:46:08 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Cacophonous
The great irony of you and Willie using that quote to advance something so bogus, is that in order to even get to that quote you have to read through an entire speech where Marx says he "supports" free trade only because he claims it will wreak havoc on the world and lead to Communism. So in order to accept that quote, you have to agree with Karl Marx's economic theories first. (I guess this isn't so hard for someone like Willie who voted for a Marxist for Vice President in 2000.)
128 posted on 08/01/2003 3:46:39 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Poohbah
I would say his prediction is coming true...
129 posted on 08/01/2003 3:47:14 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
I would say his prediction is coming true...

It's amazing what admiration you and Willie have for the father of Communism.

130 posted on 08/01/2003 3:48:59 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Cacophonous
I would say his prediction is coming true...

That's what he thought, too. He was wrong...and so are you.

131 posted on 08/01/2003 3:49:05 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Why not? They're Marxists at heart.
132 posted on 08/01/2003 3:49:25 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Have no idea who Willie voted for, except to say that we don't vote for VPs, we vote for parties.

As far as my economics, I'm a capitalist in the Adam Smith mold; I agree with HIS take on free trade. He was definitely not a "free trade" in the modern sense. He was, however, an advocate of free markets, which gets us back to the original post.

133 posted on 08/01/2003 3:49:59 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Poohbah
Why not? They're Marxists at heart.

It's amazing how transparent it becomes once you get them talking about what they really believe, deep down.

134 posted on 08/01/2003 3:50:49 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Texas_Dawg

IO will say this right now, that is a stupid question, a very stupid question, and you can not honestly expect anyone to take the "want to nuke China" question seriously. Of course everyones awnser is no, but there is a massive difference between wanting to nuke China and putting up tariffs against China and making China float the Yuan against the Dollar.
135 posted on 08/01/2003 3:51:26 PM PDT by JNB
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To: JNB
IO will say this right now, that is a stupid question, a very stupid question, and you can not honestly expect anyone to take the "want to nuke China" question seriously.

Ummm... see post #49.

136 posted on 08/01/2003 3:52:01 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: JNB
and putting up tariffs against China and making China float the Yuan against the Dollar.

And if these tariffs fail to work? And if China doesn't float the yuan? Then what do you suggest?

137 posted on 08/01/2003 3:53:36 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg ("...They came to hate their party and this president... They have finished by hating their country.")
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To: Cacophonous
"I would say his prediction is coming true..."

And I would agree. The collapse may come sooner than the naievity club can grasp.

It really amazes me how many here don't study history. Free Trade has always been a leftist issue. It was introduced here by Edward Mandel House, during the Wilson admisistration.

138 posted on 08/01/2003 3:54:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( . Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
most of the Yellow Dog union-supporting trade protectionists on FR though, as

You've only been here a few months, but in your first few weeks on Free Republic you searched and searched enough previous user posts to know that, almost exclusively, the posters here are conservative and republican.

139 posted on 08/01/2003 3:55:48 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Texas_Dawg
Wow...post 49...

Talk about someone taking a tongue-in-cheek comment too seriously. I do hope you didn't take that seriously.

140 posted on 08/01/2003 3:55:59 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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