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ON A RESONANCE THEORY OF THOUGHT AND SPIRITUALITY
Karl Jaspers Forum ^ | August 21, 2001 | Varadaraja V. Raman

Posted on 08/02/2003 4:43:59 PM PDT by betty boop

ON A RESONANCE THEORY OF THOUGHT AND SPIRITUALITY


by Varadaraja V. Raman


The following theory is proposed to explain the observed phenomena of thought and spiritual/mystical experience/creativity:

PROBLEM:
(a) Thought is the subtlest emergent entity from the human brain. As of now, though it is taken to arise from complex biochemical (neuronal) processes in the brain, we have no means of detecting any physical aspect of thought.

(b) All sensory experiences (light, sound, smell, taste, sound) result from an interaction between an external agent (photon, phonon, etc.) and some aspect of the brain.

HYPOTHESIS:
(a) It is proposed that, like the electromagnetic field, there is an extremely subtle substratum pervading the universe which may be called the universal thought field (UTF). This may even be trans-physical, i.e., something that cannot be detected by ordinary physical instruments. Or it may be physical and has not yet been detected as such.

(b) Every thought generated in the brain creates its own particular thought field (PTF).

Theory based on the above hypotheses:
(a) Just as EM waves require the complex structure of the brain to be transduced into the experience of light and color, the UTF requires the complex system of the human brain to create local thoughts. In other words, when the UTF interacts with certain regions of the brain, thoughts arise as by-products.

(b) Interactions between PTFs and brains generate other PTFs. Indeed every thought is a different reaction-result to either the UTF or to a PTF.

(c) There is an important difference between UTF and PTF. UTF does not require a material medium for acting upon a brain. But a PTF cannot be transmitted from one brain to another without a material medium, such as sound, writing, signs, etc.

(d) In some instances, as with molecular resonance, certain brains are able to resonate with the UTF in various universal modes. Such resonances constitute revelations, magnificent epic poetry, great musical compositions, discovery of a mathematical theorem in a dream, and the like, as also mystic experiences.

(e) This perspective suggests that there can be no thought without a complex brain (well known fact); and more importantly, that there exists a pure thought field (UTF) in the universe at large which may be responsible for the physical universe to be functioning in accordance with mathematically precise laws.

ANALOGIES:
The following parallels with other physical facts come to mind:

(a) Phosphorescence & luminescence: When radiation of shorter wavelengths falls on certain substances, the substances emit visible light immediately or after some time. Likewise when the UTF falls on a complex cerebral system, it emits thoughts of one kind or another.

(b) One of the subtlest entities in the physical universe is the neutrino, which does not interact with ordinary matter through gravitation, strong, or electromagnetic interaction. Being involved only in the weak interaction, it is extremely difficult to detect it. The UTF is subtler by far than the neutrino, and may therefore (if it be purely physical) it may be far more difficult to detect.



Prof. Varadaraja V. Raman
Physics Department, Rochester Institute of Technology
e-mail VVRSPS@ritvax.isc.rit.edu



KARL JASPERS FORUM
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ON A RESONANCE THEORY OF THOUGHT AND SPIRITUALITY
by Varadaraja V. Raman
18 June 2001, posted 21 August 2001
 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: brain; consciousness; faithandphilosophy; mind; quantumfields; spirit; spirituality; thought
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To: betty boop
Complementarity only applies to non-commuting variables. It's a technical result of limited scope. Pushing complementarity outside of matrix mechanics is analogous to extrapolating relativity theory to cultural relativism.

Quantum mechanics (and physics in general) isn't usually a good source for cultural analogies.
581 posted on 08/22/2003 1:02:12 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: betty boop
What an excellent challenge! Have a great vacation, betty boop! We'll be here waiting for you.
582 posted on 08/22/2003 1:07:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks so much, Alamo-Girl, for the additional supply of "lite summer beach reading"!!! :^) Now I've just got to find that Yockey paper, and I'll be all set for a while!

Thank you, as ever, for all your wonderful help, A-G!

583 posted on 08/22/2003 1:13:33 PM PDT by betty boop (Bohr is brutally realistic in epistemological terms. -- Kafatos & Nadeau)
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To: RightWhale
Thank you so much for your post!

I believe the Kolmogorov/Solomonoff alternative to Shannon entroy was with regard to analyzing the information content of biological life, not the biological entity per se - if that makes any difference to you.

584 posted on 08/22/2003 1:14:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Quantum mechanics (and physics in general) isn't usually a good source for cultural analogies.

I didn't think I was doing cultural analogies here, Doc. But I'll think it over and hopefully will be speaking with you again, after Labor Day. Thanks for writing!

585 posted on 08/22/2003 1:17:15 PM PDT by betty boop (Bohr is brutally realistic in epistemological terms. -- Kafatos & Nadeau)
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To: betty boop
LOLOLOL! Your "lite summer" reading would go over my head like geese in most areas. Have fun, you will be missed!

BTW, if I remember correctly, the Yockey book Information Systems and Molecular Biology will be republished in a few months.

586 posted on 08/22/2003 1:18:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: RightWhale
Have a good trip and watch out for that windmill in the bay.

Thanks, RW!

(RE: "that windmill in the bay" -- I don't suppose you were referring to the Hobie-cat...)

587 posted on 08/22/2003 1:39:19 PM PDT by betty boop (Bohr is brutally realistic in epistemological terms. -- Kafatos & Nadeau)
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To: betty boop
I was wondering where I'd seen some of this sort of thing before, and it just came to me; in the work of the gnostics. Some quick quotes from Plotinus (http://www.plotinus.com/who_was_plotinus.htm)

Creation.

The One, perfect in seeking nothing, possessing nothing and needing nothing, overflows and creates a new reality by its superabundance. [5.2.1.]

The process is like the unfolding of a seed, moving from simple origin to termination in the world of sense, the prior always remaining in its place, while begetting its successor from a store of indescribable power - power that must not halt within the higher realm . . but continue to expand until the universe of things reaches the limit of its possibility, lavishing its vast resources on all its creatures, intolerant that any one should have no share in it. Nothing is debarred from participation in the Good, to the extent of its receptivity. [4.8.6]

The One is omnipresent.

This All is universal power, of infinite extent and infinite in potency, a god so great that all his parts are infinite. Name any place, and he is already there. [5.8.9.]

It has not deserted its creation for a place apart; it is always present to those with strength to touch it. [6.9.7]

Soul is present in all things.

The power and nature of Soul encompasses heaven and guides it according to its will. To all this vast expanse, as far as it extends, it gives itself, and every interval, both large and small, is filled with Soul. . . Soul enlivens all things with its whole self and all Soul is present everywhere. . . And vast and diversified thought this universe is, it is one by the power of soul and a god because of soul. The sun is also a god, because ensouled, and the other stars, and if we ourselves partake of the Divine, this is the cause. [5.1.2.]

Nothing is detached or severed from its prior, so that the higher soul seems to extend as far as plants; and in a way it does so extend, because the life in plants belongs to it. Not that soul is wholly within plants, but only to the extent that they are the lower limit of its advance, another level of existence created by its decline towards the worse. [5.2.1.]

Every participant partakes of the power of Being in its entirety, while Being is unchanged and undivided. [4.4.8]

Soul in its unity is not extended by fragmentation into bodies, but is entirely present where it is present, and omnipresent and undivided throughout the universe. [6.4.12]

The universe is a living being.

This universe is a single living being embracing all living beings within it, and possessing a single Soul that permeates all its parts to the degree of their participation in it. Every part of this sensible universe is fully participant in its material aspect, and in respect of soul, in the degree to which it shares in the World Soul. [4.4.32.]

A sympathy pervades this single universe, like a single living creature, and the distant is near. . . Like parts lie not in contact but separated, with other parts between, yet by their likeness they feel sympathy . . and in a living and unified being there is no part so remote as not to be near, through the very nature that binds the living unity in sympathy. [4.4.32]

Matter

[Matter] is an image and phantom of corporeal mass, a mere tendency to substantial existence, static but without position; it is invisible in itself, eluding all attempts to observe it, present yet unseen. . . Images of intelligible beings pass in and out of it . . without cutting, as if through water, or like shapes floating through the Void. [3.6.7.]

If evil exists, it exists in non-being . . . Such is the whole world of sense and all experience of the senses. [1.8.1]

[Matter] is the substrate which underlies figures, forms, shapes, measures and limits . . a mere shadow in relation to real Being, the very essence of evil, if such is possible. [1.8.2]

588 posted on 08/22/2003 1:46:36 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Alamo-Girl
the information content of biological life

Information. Let's see, what would be at the opposite pole? If we come up with the negating, we can have rationality, reason, philosophic thought; if not we can have science. We may have a new dimension based on form or forming: form flowing into.

589 posted on 08/22/2003 2:14:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: betty boop
I don't suppose you were referring to the Hobie-cat

No. Hope not, anyway.

590 posted on 08/22/2003 2:15:26 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale
Thank you for your reply! But I don't understand where you are going with it. What would be at the opposite pole of information except null?
591 posted on 08/22/2003 2:30:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
What would be at the opposite pole of information

Maybe there's more than one opposite pole, more than one axis of symmetry. Doesn't work for the dialectic, of course. Null, chaos, which parallels maximum entropy?

592 posted on 08/22/2003 2:35:26 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale
You may be right about the symmetry! Thanks for your post!
593 posted on 08/22/2003 2:53:59 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: unspun
Yes, where they are God's concepts.

And how is it you know God's concepts?

594 posted on 08/22/2003 2:55:46 PM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: RightWhale
Maybe there's more than one opposite pole, more than one axis of symmetry. Doesn't work for the dialectic, of course. Null, chaos, which parallels maximum entropy?

I'd think the opposite of information would be chaos, and the opposite of data would be null, providing of course that you differentiate between information and data.

595 posted on 08/22/2003 3:04:26 PM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic
how is it you know God's concepts?

An interesting question. However, the poster doesn't seem to be claiming to know God's concepts. Maybe just one or a few of the elementary concepts, but certainly not all, and maybe not even one.

596 posted on 08/22/2003 3:06:59 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: tacticalogic
Turns out there is information in chaos. It might be that information is entirely subjective, which would make it malleable to scientific methods. By opposite pole is not meant mathematical opposite, but conceptual opposite or complement, the negate of information. Null would just be a location along the axis.
597 posted on 08/22/2003 3:11:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale
An interesting question. However, the poster doesn't seem to be claiming to know God's concepts. Maybe just one or a few of the elementary concepts, but certainly not all, and maybe not even one.

He seems pretty adamant that "order" is one of them.

598 posted on 08/22/2003 3:11:47 PM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: RightWhale
I tend to think of chaos as being data absent corelation, and some coherent corelation being the difference between data and information.
599 posted on 08/22/2003 3:16:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: tacticalogic
'Order' is used in at least two senses, and the senses are very different. Something like abadan, meaning wasteland in one use and a new civilization built on former wasteland in another use. Different words, spelled about the same, pronounced about the same, most confusing. Order is used as a synonym for organization in common language, yet it means total randomness, the maximum entropy. We are organic by nature, we organize. We don't create order out of chaos, quite the opposite.
600 posted on 08/22/2003 3:29:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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