PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE [BARF ALERT - ANTI-GOP PROPAGANDA]

NewsWithViews.com ^ | May 9, 2003 | By David Brownlow

[.30Carbine]

link to above document

[HapaxLegamenon]

"in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother". Or "in the case of breech presentation", make sure the child is killed before "any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother". (Actual text of SB S.3 in quotes)

Interesting use of "quotation" marks.

[RnMomof7]

Couldn't an abortionist drive a spike through the gap in the unfused cranial sutures, clear through the head and into the base of the skull?

Yes that could be done .

[CWOJackson]

Santorum or the perpetually petulent ones? Who to believe and trust?

We know what Santorum's agenda is, life. For "them" preserving life appears to be second to their hatred of the President. What a bitter and sad bunch of people.

[jwalsh07]

You got that right Chief.

[GregoryFul]

How do you know when a politician is lying?

When he moves his lips!

[George W. Bush]

This reporting is sad. All these years and effort and we end up with a mild restriction on how they kill late-term babies.

The Dims and the abortion industry are laughing up their sleeves and selling fetal tissue.

[Long Cut]

Mr. Robinson, speaking as one of the few pro-choice conservatives on FR, let me say that even I think that this article was a sick hack-job.

I actually think that the ban, as passed, is a good thing. This procedure should be outlawed;or at least restricted severely.

Having said that, I would point out some of the responses that you are refuting...as always, when this issue comes up, rational, logical discussion seems to become impossible through all the fire-and-brimstone.

The politicians we all are trying to influence to our side on a host of other, equally important issues, do not fail to see this.

Kudos, then, to yourself and FR for exposing this insidious attempt to slander and debase our President.

[Long Cut]

Ping.

[Kevin Curry]

I actually think that the ban, as passed, is a good thing. This procedure should be outlawed;or at least restricted severely.

The question is what has been outlawed? If a third-trimester child can still be sliced and diced like steak in a cuisanart inside the womb--and the abortionists simply shift to doing it there--what really has been accomplished?

[honeygrl]

"This and her description of the procedure above (which I do not have the heart to read) are almost enough to make me wish there isn't a God. That way He won't get mad when he sees the utter barbarity on display here. "

You are better off not reading it. It made me cry. (and I don't do that just from reading stuff usually)

[George W. Bush]

The question is what has been outlawed? If a third-trimester child can still be sliced and diced like steak in a cuisanart inside the womb--and the abortionists simply shift to doing it there--what really has been accomplished?

Well, assuming that the remaining allowed abortion procedures would appear to require more technical skill, perhaps the abortionist can charge a higher fee for late-term abortions.

[GregoryFul]

To believe that life begins at conception is not a "religious" belief -- it is a scientific and obvious fact!

[Long Cut]

"what really has been accomplished?"

One step. In the direction you want.

Believe me, I would LOVE to see that much progress on Second Amendment issues.

That one step, small as it may seem, is a WIN for your side. Take all you can get; the Left will work as if the devil himself was whipping their backs to erase it.

Oh, and you STILL have to get this past the courts...particularly the Supreme one, which has been...unpredictable of late.

[Long Cut]

Best put on some Nomex threads, dude. People who express that opinion around here find that it can get HOT, fire-and-brimstone hot, in short order.

[CWOJackson]

This is a step in the right direction, albeit still just a small step. But anything beyond a step is impossible today. It is very easy to attack the President over this…it doesn’t put an end to abortion. But what do the complainers offer up in exchange?

When has the libertarian party ever succeeded in pushing a bill through Congress involving abortion? Other then abandoning it when politically expedient, what has pat buchanan’s contributions been to stopping the murder of the unborn? Which Senators from the Constitution Party opposed Roe-v-Wade?

It’s very simple to attack those who have actually done something, but what do they offer in exchange? The only way we are ever going to put an end to this hideous practice is to insure that a Conservative Supreme Court becomes a reality and remains in place for decades to come. That means we have to reelect President Bush and give him the greatest Congressional majority possible.

Or we can sit on the sidelines, complain and accomplish nothing whatsoever other then perhaps actually hinder this progress.

[Long Cut]

Shoot, Warrant, how many times have you and I discussed that very thing?

Oh, BTW, I don't know if you heard or not, but Mini Cut was born on July 10th, a beautiful blond boy, at 7 pounds, 12 ounces.

I brag about him often.

[RnMomof7]

** Well, assuming that the remaining allowed abortion procedures would appear to require more technical skill, perhaps the abortionist can charge a higher fee for late-term abortions. **

It appears that way



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[CWOJackson]

Oh yes, I sent you a BZ on the arrival but your head was too high in the clouds...darned airdales.