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To: Jim Robinson
There is a save, if the Republicans want it...

Bush refuses to sign it, then spins it through this place and elsewhere that it was because the bill was too weak.

Libs will be pulled even further rightward by the perception of W as being pro-choice, contrary to the will of his core constiuency...

242 posted on 08/05/2003 4:11:47 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
So, do you think the pro-life groups and organizations that support this bill are also in on this political scam? Is Phyllis Schlafly part of the scam? Is Alan Keyes scamming us? How about the Concerened Women For America? They seem to have a lot of confidence in this bill. Are we now to believe that the GOP haters who oppose this legislation, ie, the Libertarians, paleocons, Buchananites, Reformers, and, apparently, the Constitution Party, along with the Democrats, Socialists, liberals, et al, are correct and the pro-life, pro-family and religious leaders and organizations who support it have been scamming us all this time?

246 posted on 08/05/2003 4:28:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Yeti
Bush refuses to sign it, then spins it through this place and elsewhere that it was because the bill was too weak.

So you are an all or nothing kind of person?

248 posted on 08/05/2003 4:30:49 PM PDT by Mo1 (Please help Free Republic and Donate Now !!!)
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To: Yeti; epow; wgeorge2001; F.J. Mitchell
House OKs ban on partial-birth abortion

By Amy Fagan
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
June 5, 2003

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A ban on partial-birth abortion is well on its way to becoming law, after the House approved it late yesterday on a 282-139 vote.

"After eight long years, Congress will finally send the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act to a president willing to sign it," said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, Texas Republican.

"The debate over the rights of the unborn will continue, and new battles will be fought. But in the meantime, the American people will take this one stand ... on behalf of the innocent," he said.

Voting for the bill were 220 Republicans and 62 Democrats. Voting against it were 133 Democrats, five Republicans and the chamber's lone independent. Three Republican and 10 Democratic lawmakers did not vote.

Congress has twice passed a ban on partial-birth abortion, but both measures were vetoed by President Clinton, and although the House overrode the vetoes, the Senate did not.

In a statement after the vote last night, President Bush called it "a shared priority that will help build a culture of life in America."

...A Gallup poll in January found that 70 percent of the public favors a ban on the procedure.

The key difference between the nearly identical House and Senate partial-birth-abortion-ban bills is that the Senate adopted language on the floor reaffirming the 1973 Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion.

The House bill contains no such language, and Republicans said this language will be removed in conference.

258 posted on 08/05/2003 5:43:34 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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